Ras Siddiqui December 3, 2002
#35 Posted by pmishra2 on December 6, 2002 9:35:51 pm
aqazi #34
Coming from a background that includes extended family who have been ``cleansed`` from Kashmir, I find your rant laughable and hypocritical. I have spent many months in Kashmir and my mother was born in Srinagar. I am well aware how the Kashmiri drive for good goverment and autonomy was converted to a ``jihad``. And without shame you support the murder of civilians, children and pilgrims while giving us a lecture on human rights !
BTW, we hear ``freedom`` has arrived in Pakistan. Enjoy ! And if someone in your family or circle of friends has a problem because of freedom dont forget to think of the ``root cause`` ! I am sure it will bring you a lot of joy.
Coming from a background that includes extended family who have been ``cleansed`` from Kashmir, I find your rant laughable and hypocritical. I have spent many months in Kashmir and my mother was born in Srinagar. I am well aware how the Kashmiri drive for good goverment and autonomy was converted to a ``jihad``. And without shame you support the murder of civilians, children and pilgrims while giving us a lecture on human rights !
BTW, we hear ``freedom`` has arrived in Pakistan. Enjoy ! And if someone in your family or circle of friends has a problem because of freedom dont forget to think of the ``root cause`` ! I am sure it will bring you a lot of joy.
#34 Posted by aqazi on December 6, 2002 5:39:54 pm
Its always interesting to hear the Indian point of view on things. Always championing the great cause of peace. Did it EVER occur to any of you BJP fundos that had it not been the imperial India imposing its will on Kashmiris and forcing them to subjugation, Pakistan would have probably been one of the strongest Indian ally????
Funny how the BJP fundos always zoom in on ``Paki terrorists this, Paki terrorists that`` without looking at the root cause of the issue. Does it not occur to ANY hindu fundo that if the Kashmiris have been begging for their independence/merger with Pakistan, then maybe they should let them go?
If on one hand India accepts the creation of Pakistan, then by God, there`s no argument that can stand against Kashmir joining Pakistan. According to the logic of seperation of the two states, Kashmir is an Integral part of Pakistan. And please, dont bother giving me the great Maharajah`s decision of joining India speech, because we all know what happened to that same logic with Nizam of Hyderabad.
I know enough Indians to know that deep down inside they all know how wrong it is for India to occupy Kashmir. The only thing standing in the way of peace between the two countries is the big Bunya ego. Its as simple as that.
So Sadna and crew, please understand that everything beyond the basics is jibrish. You lament Kargil, we lament the past 56 years of desecration of humanity at the hands of Indian occupation forces. Respect the wish of the Kashmiris and you will find no other country to support your superpower dreams than Pakistan. Go back and see what even your own dear Nehru said about the Kashmiris and the promise he made to them. Think of what Mahatma Gandhi would say about Kashmir. If he agreed to the creation of Pakistan, however begrudingly, then dont you think he would be the first person to say that Kashmir belongs to Pakistan. Once you accept the premise of Pakistan, then the answer is obvious.
Funny how the BJP fundos always zoom in on ``Paki terrorists this, Paki terrorists that`` without looking at the root cause of the issue. Does it not occur to ANY hindu fundo that if the Kashmiris have been begging for their independence/merger with Pakistan, then maybe they should let them go?
If on one hand India accepts the creation of Pakistan, then by God, there`s no argument that can stand against Kashmir joining Pakistan. According to the logic of seperation of the two states, Kashmir is an Integral part of Pakistan. And please, dont bother giving me the great Maharajah`s decision of joining India speech, because we all know what happened to that same logic with Nizam of Hyderabad.
I know enough Indians to know that deep down inside they all know how wrong it is for India to occupy Kashmir. The only thing standing in the way of peace between the two countries is the big Bunya ego. Its as simple as that.
So Sadna and crew, please understand that everything beyond the basics is jibrish. You lament Kargil, we lament the past 56 years of desecration of humanity at the hands of Indian occupation forces. Respect the wish of the Kashmiris and you will find no other country to support your superpower dreams than Pakistan. Go back and see what even your own dear Nehru said about the Kashmiris and the promise he made to them. Think of what Mahatma Gandhi would say about Kashmir. If he agreed to the creation of Pakistan, however begrudingly, then dont you think he would be the first person to say that Kashmir belongs to Pakistan. Once you accept the premise of Pakistan, then the answer is obvious.
#33 Posted by semipreciousme on December 6, 2002 12:37:33 pm
...great...another pak-india hiss fight...
#32 Posted by pmishra2 on December 6, 2002 9:15:32 am
faisulano #31
Let me get this straight: you are suggesting that one of your revered religous days should be attached to acts of violence and murder in India? Is that what your faith means to you?
And I am the hindu hate monger? heh, heh, you must really need help.
Let me get this straight: you are suggesting that one of your revered religous days should be attached to acts of violence and murder in India? Is that what your faith means to you?
And I am the hindu hate monger? heh, heh, you must really need help.
#31 Posted by faisaluno on December 6, 2002 8:39:15 am
Hindu hatemongers, eid mubarak.
PWG naxals blow up police station at Veldurti
PTI[ FRIDAY, DECEMBER 06, 2002 01:39:26 PM ]
GUNTUR: Naxals of outlawed People`s War Group (PWG) blew up an abandoned police station building at Veldurti village in Guntur district early on Friday, police said here.
About ten armed naxals planted gelatin sticks around the dilapidated building and detonated them, causing the old building to collapse, they said.
The building was unoccupied as the police force of the station had been shifted three months ago to a new building with bunkers and electric fencing.
#30 Posted by jay on December 6, 2002 7:33:57 am
qasman 16,
``On Paksitani streets, Lashkar e Tayyaba and others claim that they _only_ despatch Indian army scoundrels to hell. And this is to protect Kashmiris. This is hard to prove or disprove for me.``
You are the quentessential typical pakistani. You accept the idea that individual pakistanis can kill others as long as they are not innocent. Like tahmed and temporal, you cannot accept the idea that there is something barabaric about the pakistanis rushing out of the 200,000 madrasis with only one motive, to searcj and kill the non-innocents. These biped killing machines, so widely accepted and supported by one and all of the pakistanis is the source of islamic terror. These search out for the weapons, travel far and wide with one single aim, to kill and get killed. Kasi went to the US, several others went to kenya, thousand throng to kashmir, many more attack the red fort and the indian parlement, one aim, to kill and get killed to find a reserved place in heaven.
I have no difficulty in accepting the pak idea, bu pl spare me the ideas of human rights, pl stop talking about palestine. Pakistan as a land created for islam has attracted many from all over the world, in kasmir itself jihadists from more than ten countries have gone to the reserved heavens. But spare me the tag of paki hater, when you have an entire nation thriving on killing kafirs, of course the non-innocent variety.
It is a tragedy that even an educated pakistani cannot accept the idea of individuals turned into biped killing automatoms through a system of education is out of step with the modern times. Bring on the disy cutters to send them enmasse to heavens.
``On Paksitani streets, Lashkar e Tayyaba and others claim that they _only_ despatch Indian army scoundrels to hell. And this is to protect Kashmiris. This is hard to prove or disprove for me.``
You are the quentessential typical pakistani. You accept the idea that individual pakistanis can kill others as long as they are not innocent. Like tahmed and temporal, you cannot accept the idea that there is something barabaric about the pakistanis rushing out of the 200,000 madrasis with only one motive, to searcj and kill the non-innocents. These biped killing machines, so widely accepted and supported by one and all of the pakistanis is the source of islamic terror. These search out for the weapons, travel far and wide with one single aim, to kill and get killed. Kasi went to the US, several others went to kenya, thousand throng to kashmir, many more attack the red fort and the indian parlement, one aim, to kill and get killed to find a reserved place in heaven.
I have no difficulty in accepting the pak idea, bu pl spare me the ideas of human rights, pl stop talking about palestine. Pakistan as a land created for islam has attracted many from all over the world, in kasmir itself jihadists from more than ten countries have gone to the reserved heavens. But spare me the tag of paki hater, when you have an entire nation thriving on killing kafirs, of course the non-innocent variety.
It is a tragedy that even an educated pakistani cannot accept the idea of individuals turned into biped killing automatoms through a system of education is out of step with the modern times. Bring on the disy cutters to send them enmasse to heavens.
#29 Posted by jay on December 6, 2002 7:33:57 am
WORLD OF MUSHY
``I want the Indian team to visit Pakistan and entertain the public here. I am all for keeping sports and politics separate,`` Musharraf told visiting ICC president Malcolm Gray late on Thursday, the Pakistan Cricket Board said in a statement. mUSHY ADDED THAT KILLING OF NON-INNOCENT HINDUS AS A RELIGIOUS DUTY SHOULD NOT AFFECT INDO=PAK RELATIONS.
Over to you qusman 16
``I want the Indian team to visit Pakistan and entertain the public here. I am all for keeping sports and politics separate,`` Musharraf told visiting ICC president Malcolm Gray late on Thursday, the Pakistan Cricket Board said in a statement. mUSHY ADDED THAT KILLING OF NON-INNOCENT HINDUS AS A RELIGIOUS DUTY SHOULD NOT AFFECT INDO=PAK RELATIONS.
Over to you qusman 16
#28 Posted by sadna on December 6, 2002 7:33:57 am
Qusman, aqazi etc
I wouldn`t be on chowk interacting with Pakistanis if it hadn`t been for Kargil and the coup. This unwanted consequence is part of the same famous `internationalisation` of the Kashmir issue which people keep crowing about wrt Kargil. It did indeed succeed in bringing the Kashmir issue to the attention of the international community, which however also included that part of international community which lives in India ie Indians like myself. Its hard to now say, sshhh we didn`t mean YOU. As the Vicks ad says Ab Bhugtho.
I wouldn`t be on chowk interacting with Pakistanis if it hadn`t been for Kargil and the coup. This unwanted consequence is part of the same famous `internationalisation` of the Kashmir issue which people keep crowing about wrt Kargil. It did indeed succeed in bringing the Kashmir issue to the attention of the international community, which however also included that part of international community which lives in India ie Indians like myself. Its hard to now say, sshhh we didn`t mean YOU. As the Vicks ad says Ab Bhugtho.
#27 Posted by pmishra2 on December 6, 2002 7:33:56 am
#22 qusman
Thanks for your inane and patronizing blather (not to speak of your ignorance of the use of irony!).
You still didn`t answer my question: as you seem to find reports like ``Freedom Fighters kill 7 in Wedding Party`` (actual headline from DAWN) acceptable you must fall into one of two categories:
Are you a person with genuine mental disabilities or a shameless hypocrite. Which one is it? We would all like to learn the truth.
#23 aqazi
I think people can read our respective messages and decide which one of us is a foul-mouthed hate monger. You may get a surprise if you ask a friend.
Thanks for your inane and patronizing blather (not to speak of your ignorance of the use of irony!).
You still didn`t answer my question: as you seem to find reports like ``Freedom Fighters kill 7 in Wedding Party`` (actual headline from DAWN) acceptable you must fall into one of two categories:
Are you a person with genuine mental disabilities or a shameless hypocrite. Which one is it? We would all like to learn the truth.
#23 aqazi
I think people can read our respective messages and decide which one of us is a foul-mouthed hate monger. You may get a surprise if you ask a friend.
#26 Posted by Ralph on December 5, 2002 11:24:06 pm
# 22 #23
What Pakistanis have been doing doesnt concern just the `BJP style fundo hate mongerers` or `privileged castes`.
What Pakistanis have been doing doesnt concern just the `BJP style fundo hate mongerers` or `privileged castes`.
#25 Posted by Ralph on December 5, 2002 11:24:06 pm
One more Pakistani gift to India.
Thursday, 5 December, 2002, 15:57 GMT
Politician killed in Kashmir
Police in Indian-administered Kashmir say suspected militants have killed a prominent pro-India political activist, Ghulam Mohiuddin Lone.
They say he was shot dead outside his home in the district of Kupwara.
Mr Lone was a brother of a former law minister in the state government, Mushtaq Ahmed Lone, who was also assassinated at an election rally in September this year.
Ghulam Mohiuddin Lone gained prominence in 1996 when he, along with some other militant leaders, initiated a dialogue with the Indian Government on the Kashmir issue.
No group has so far admitted killing him.
From the newsroom of the BBC World Service
Thursday, 5 December, 2002, 15:57 GMT
Politician killed in Kashmir
Police in Indian-administered Kashmir say suspected militants have killed a prominent pro-India political activist, Ghulam Mohiuddin Lone.
They say he was shot dead outside his home in the district of Kupwara.
Mr Lone was a brother of a former law minister in the state government, Mushtaq Ahmed Lone, who was also assassinated at an election rally in September this year.
Ghulam Mohiuddin Lone gained prominence in 1996 when he, along with some other militant leaders, initiated a dialogue with the Indian Government on the Kashmir issue.
No group has so far admitted killing him.
From the newsroom of the BBC World Service
#24 Posted by Ras on December 5, 2002 8:28:03 pm
A one star effort marred by a couple of serious typos.
Enjoyed the feedback.
Haqqani Sahib is a civilian and a political personality so the attacks by our very own Khaki fans are not surprising.
I did not mention Mrs. Haqqani. Both husband and wife are extremely
talented.
Ras
#23 Posted by aqazi on December 5, 2002 7:31:33 pm
Mr. ``P`` Mishra (Could the P stand for Pimpdaddy?) :)
I can picture you foaming at the mouth while writing the emails. Im sure there are plenty of Indian sites where this kind of destructive citicizm and BJP style fundo hate mongering is appreciated. From what I can tell, Chowk is for enlightened discussions.
By you and the other fellow (Arjun_m, cant really say what the ``m`` stands for, but could it be a hyphenated word?) seem hell bent on being the Indian govt`s mouth-pieces. Like you said, this is after all the internet, so learn to think objectively. Name calling went out of fashion back in 2nd grade.
I can picture you foaming at the mouth while writing the emails. Im sure there are plenty of Indian sites where this kind of destructive citicizm and BJP style fundo hate mongering is appreciated. From what I can tell, Chowk is for enlightened discussions.
By you and the other fellow (Arjun_m, cant really say what the ``m`` stands for, but could it be a hyphenated word?) seem hell bent on being the Indian govt`s mouth-pieces. Like you said, this is after all the internet, so learn to think objectively. Name calling went out of fashion back in 2nd grade.
#22 Posted by qusman1 on December 5, 2002 6:26:35 pm
So, much as I hate to become a mouthpiece for LeT and JeM, I should tell you that I`ve never heard any of their associates own up to anything wrong, not even like mistakenly killing innocent bystanders, certainly not pilgrims.
So they say that all the bad things happening in Kashmir are the work of India (read cunning h#*$&s). These evil infidels would gladly massacre some of their own to win propaganda points. Everyone knows that they have `renegade` militants in their pay.
Anyway, as I said earlier, I wish the complete neutralization and destruction of all the rascals creating mayhem in Kashmir-- Bania Army, Mad Mullah Intelligence, other rabid dogs, the whole lot!
pmishra2 #17 & #21
Well... No reason to bring your panicked nerves here either!
The only way you`ll unlearn your priveleged-caste nonsense is by LEARNING that you can`t convince any of us Pakis by refusing to change your discourse. Yeah but do keep posting as you please. One day we`ll get so tired that we`ll stop our misdeeds, you wish! ;-})
#21 Posted by pmishra2 on December 5, 2002 3:42:10 pm
aqazi #20
Why are we here? Because you and your country is killing indians on a daily basis. Because you have funded murder and terror all over North India. Because Dawood Ibrahim, an indian mobster and criminal lives in Karachi and has been given a pakistani passport. Otherwise, we wouldn`t care if you and your sort vanished into a black hole overnight.
You see, unlike your pure homeland, the internet is exceedingly open and impure. It cannot be ethnically purified of kafirs like your country. It is full of evil indians and other impure mongrel type people. Get used to it!
Why are we here? Because you and your country is killing indians on a daily basis. Because you have funded murder and terror all over North India. Because Dawood Ibrahim, an indian mobster and criminal lives in Karachi and has been given a pakistani passport. Otherwise, we wouldn`t care if you and your sort vanished into a black hole overnight.
You see, unlike your pure homeland, the internet is exceedingly open and impure. It cannot be ethnically purified of kafirs like your country. It is full of evil indians and other impure mongrel type people. Get used to it!
#20 Posted by aqazi on December 5, 2002 2:02:49 pm
Hussain Haqqani is yet another self proclaimed `enlightened Pakistani`. In Urdu, we call them `Thali kay Baingan`.
As for the Indians on writing on this site consistently, one would have to ask them the question that if they think Pakistan is obsessed with India, then why is it that its always the Indian crowding Pakistani sites to chime in with their opinions?
All the hatered that these Indians have is unbelievable. It has got to be a major inferiority complex that they are trying to overcome by constantly tell themselves that India is doing `great`. If having over 40% of the population living under the poverty line is doing well, then I guess India takes the cake!
As for the Indians on writing on this site consistently, one would have to ask them the question that if they think Pakistan is obsessed with India, then why is it that its always the Indian crowding Pakistani sites to chime in with their opinions?
All the hatered that these Indians have is unbelievable. It has got to be a major inferiority complex that they are trying to overcome by constantly tell themselves that India is doing `great`. If having over 40% of the population living under the poverty line is doing well, then I guess India takes the cake!
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