Husain Haqqani at UC Berkeley

````Haqqani was accused by Musharraf of blackmailing the govt, to become the New Minister for Information. When refused he turne dhis pen on them. I wonder how true that story is````(Zakk)

I wonder how true this story is -- Musharraf is blackmailing the govt, to become -- the President for Life...

Haqqani was accused by Musharraf of blackmailing the govt, to become the New Minister for Information. When refused he turne dhis pen on them. I wonder how true that story is?

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On Paksitani streets, Lashkar e Tayyaba and others claim that they _only_ despatch Indian army scoundrels to hell. And this is to protect Kashmiris. This is hard to prove or disprove for me.
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Sure, sure, whatever. Never mind that your newspapers are full of articles like ``Freedom Fighters Kill Seven in Wedding Party``. Or that dozens of children are killed in Kashmiri markets by grenades that miss their target. Or that many pilgrims are killed at religous sites.

I guess you are either a person with genuine mental disabilities or shameless hypocrite. Which one is it? We would all like to learn the truth.

jay #11

On Paksitani streets, Lashkar e Tayyaba and others claim that they _only_ despatch Indian army scoundrels to hell. And this is to protect Kashmiris. This is hard to prove or disprove for me.

However, my feeling is that they also kill suspected collaborators and harrass a lot of common people. From reading accounts of life in Kashmir, it seems like it`s an open season for all sorts of cut throats anyway, whether they are in uniform, wearing masks, pro-India, pro-Pak or pro-themselves. I would like to see them all neutralized or destroyed.

The Gujarat pogroms did not take place in the shadows. The perpetrators are clearly identifiable. The state machinery for bringing Modi and his thugs to justice exists. It is just prevented from functioning.

So please get out of this Pakistan/India rut!

hindu hai aik aankh mussalman doosree

the subcontinent NEEDS steroscopic vision to see the depth of the bright FUTURE accurately -- Pakistan and India HAVE to learn to live TOGETHER -- Kashmir or no Kashmir --

India may be ahead in some things..

Pakistan needs to BREED more Haqqanis -- to achieve the PARITY... as simple as that!

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#12 by ferozk

{Nice to know that people in Pakistan develop a common sense, once they are out of power. Pity that internationally acclaimed, self exiled, pundit of Pakistan could not offer the same advice to the two ministers, whom he served with no distinction.}

and he left NS soon as his Govt fell and joned BB for the same post..one of the major reason for switiching sides was having an affair with the sister of Naheed Khan (BB`s political secetary). He served as most effective propoganda machine for both BB and NS as inforamtion advisor..................and now he is showing his intelectualism:) good going! keep it up H:H ,

Ras,
It is encouraging to hear Haqqani`s comments. If it reflects the establishment`s thoughts in Islamabad, that would be great. The reality is that a pragmatic approach to Indo-Pak relations is a dire necessity for both nations. Most Indians I know are interested in economic development rather than warfare. I presume the same is true on your side of the border. After all, how long will we continue with our stupid rivalry ? Other countries, muslim or non-muslim, think we are nuts for doing this to ourselves.

empirical 7,

You are another typical pakistani. Those who are involved in killing in gujerat are crimainals according to the law. The laskers who parade their killings in pakistan are the heros, visited by millions. In everuy mosque, there is call for jihad, every street corners there are posters for jihad. There is no count of the pakistanis who have infiltrated to ins dia to be killed, the uncountables of pakistan.

I recognise that no pakistani can accept the significance of the difference.
To guide you in this process, just close your eyes, imageine one man coming to the office of a solicitor, kills his daughter in cold blood. The man is invited next week to the office of the president to be honoured and the lawer is charged for mis-leading young women.

If you can foind something wrong with this image, where murder is an act of honour, you are beginning to understand the pathos, called pakistan. Pl do not write india and pakistan in the same sentence, the two are poles apart.

A country that extolls killing of the non-innocnet kafirs, well my friend you are in the land of the pure. If you have any courrage, if you have any dignity, make a one line statement, killing of non-innocent kafirs is not jihad.

``...advisor to two Prime Ministers and once also an ambassador for the country in Sri Lanka...``

Nice to know that people in Pakistan develop a common sense, once they are out of power. Pity that internationally acclaimed, self exiled, pundit of Pakistan could not offer the same advice to the two ministers, whom he served with no distinction.

Ciao

empirical #7

Pakistan stands for peace in Kashmir? I guess just as it stood for peace in Afghanistan! BTW, I hear there is more and more peace in Karachi. Enjoy, perhaps this ``peace`` will even visit someone in your family, just as it visited some in mine.

Anyway, I am not going to bother to address your delusions. The good news is that all the world today fully understands what Pakistan stands for. It is no longer us benighted, caste-ridden hindus who carry the burden alone.

There are many types of denial/deniability. One type is exceptionally high IQ Pakistani Army type denial displayed on the Ali A board which asserts that Indians are stupid enough to be shamed into stopping reading about the daily death toll by jihadis and rushing to handover J&K to Pakistan because Pakistanis say they watch Hindi movies. The same type of denial thinks India will pay millions of dollars for pipelined oil to help fund insurgencies within its own borders. [This sort of denial is also expressed in editorials like the Daily Times`]Or that India will allow 11 Indians to play cricket with Pakistan even though Pakistanis kill 11 Indians a day in J&K simply so that Pakistani Cricket Board occcupied by Army generals can earn millions of dollars in advertising and sponsorhips.

If Pakistani paper warriors pretend to misread the indoos so badly even in simple matters, what can Haqqani do about it. Let him give a 110 lectures and occupy 20 chairs, exactly what will change? You cannot wake up people who pretend to be asleep.

REF arjun_m, JAY,

Atleast admit that HH is pointing in the right direction. He has managed to rid himself of the classical hatered for india which prevents pakistanis to think clearly.

I am not sure, ``enlightend`` people like yourselves, representing the educated class of indian can do likewise. Your posts are filled to the brim with hatered and malice and its sickening.

Instead of speculating on HHs survival after such a speech, ponder abt the orgy of massacre of thousands of Indian citizens in gujrat. I wonder, how many perpetrators were apprehended in this connection.

As for beating the drums of infiltration across kashmir, take the blame somewhere else. If the 1 million strong indian army cannot sucessfully seal the kashmir border, then their competence and chewing of exorbitant defence budgets needs reviewing.

Bottomline is, atleast people from pakistan have the courage to point out where the problem lies. I believe, peace in kashmir is vital for progress of both people however, as long as people like yourselves represent the mindset of indian elite its just an exercise of fancy.

Lets imagine this guy was in Pakistan. How long would he survive after a speech like this? Just curious....

Ras,

May you should have added a prologue, HH would not have survived another day if he had expressed these views in pakistan.

regards

Jay

I went to HH`s event at Stanford. Although he`s saying all the right things (make peace with India, get army out of politics), I was puzzled by his dismissal of allegations of corruption against NS and BB (esp. the latter).

Does anyone know whether HH got a little piece of the action as well during the `fat years`?