Maternal Suicide

Yildrim:
{And what better actors, that is, fakers, than Punjabis. }

oooooh....those are fighting words, young man!!!

#9: [#8 BTW YILDRIN OR YILMAHZ ARE TURKISH HOW DID PAKISTAN GOT TURKISED!......... ]

You may know that in the 20`s the Islamist movement in the sub-continent was rooted in somehow allying itself with the Ottoman Khalifate for political reasons. They hoped to be drawn into the spiritual caliphate extended by the Ottomans. Aside from the Turkish words in Urdu, this is the only recent ``Turkish-connection`` south-Asian Muslims have with Turkey.

It doesn`t answer your question mostly because I don`t have a direct answer. I suppose that perhaps I like the meaning of the word ``yildrim``, that is, Lightning.

although the Ottoman Khalifa by the same name, Bayazid Yildrim, did not seem very much like lightning at all when he was destroyed by Taimur in the 14th century. Of all the pre-Suleiman Sultans he was the only one to have suffered major defeat. Perhaps my innate sense of associate with him is a consequence of my own obsession with defeat.

[And what better actors, that is, fakers, than Punjabis.]

OUCHHHH!

Lahore has been considered an intellectual island in the region.

Thoughts about its suicide are premature.

Maybe the Mullahs feel frustrated that free thinking still lives

in this city?

Ras

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Guys,

In india we have ghats along rivers where hindus go for pilgrimage. Are there such pilgrimage centre along rivers in Pakistan? Can someone write details (and perhaps photographs) on that.

Regards

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Actually Ana, I am far too young to remember those days. The image of the artistic Lahore I have in my head is a consequence of having internalized (to a small degree) what Lahore stands for. Its strange to find out that before I was born Lahore really was like that. I am a big fan of Lorca. Perhaps one day I can make Lahore a fan of mine. My eventual goal is to set up a Theatre Company in Lahore and put on plays, plays, plays! All the world is a stage! And what better actors, that is, fakers, than Punjabis.

and now I realize Yildrim that you are the writer of this piece, and you may already be familiar with everything I just said.

Yildrim:
I believe an artistic revolution of sorts has been tried in Lahore before...by way of the theatre...I think such was the case in the 70`s...pre-Zia, Lahoris who are old enough to remember may correct me if I`m wrong. Lahore in those days was a great place for promoting the arts...the National College of the Arts is there, and wonderful teachers like the Hashmis who were also actors. Promising actors, and artists...it was quite a scene. There was an open-air theater where plays were staged...unfortunately that didn`t last...not enough support, or what I don`t know...but if memory serves me correctly, the place where such plays used to be staged is now either where the Lahore Hilton is, or some other big business monstrosity. Not that this stopped the theatre folks...was it through PTV Lahore or Karachi that they did a re-enactment of one of the Spanish playwright Lorca`s plays?

I think Lahore would be an ideal place to foment an artistic revolution. Perhaps by way of the theatre. Any takers?

i don`t like the tomb analogy. totally inadequate. but the inaction part makes sense. lahore is basically a fantastically overgrown village that doesn`t know what to do with itself...except keep growing.

Karain ge ahle nazr taza bastian abad
Meri nigah naheen sooye kufa-o-Baghdad
(Iqbal-e-Lahori)

Ameer,
I agree...we Lahoris are the masters of hyperbole!

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