Ameer Afraid February 20, 2003
#13 Posted by Ras on February 22, 2003 10:04:42 pm
A bit complex for a reader like me.
Needs a more direct approach.
I liked the theme.
Ras
#12 Posted by ahmedmadani on February 22, 2003 1:37:00 pm
ref#11...... Thanks Mr.Jay for explanation as your way of explaining things.
I agree in some sense.
There are all impossible things people assume as facts. Like rising of jesus, Flight of Profet (Pbuh) to Heaven from Jeruslem to heaven on white horse, or your Lord Rama building bridge with help of maonkeys to Ceylon etc. We know these are all lies but we kind of leave things undisturbed.
Muslims bow and lie on knees, hindus give namaskar and dip their heads, christians remove caps in their worship places signaling now head (brain) is stopped and heart takes over. So this stupidity is accepted.
Yes there are problems in my country and things are going from bad to worse in many respects. ( You know india , I do not know so will not say same thing is happening in India). Yes as Karl Marx said religion is Opium of poors it still true mostly in poor countries.
You write funny, bitingly and enjoy it. Just keep balance that is all. good luck
I agree in some sense.
There are all impossible things people assume as facts. Like rising of jesus, Flight of Profet (Pbuh) to Heaven from Jeruslem to heaven on white horse, or your Lord Rama building bridge with help of maonkeys to Ceylon etc. We know these are all lies but we kind of leave things undisturbed.
Muslims bow and lie on knees, hindus give namaskar and dip their heads, christians remove caps in their worship places signaling now head (brain) is stopped and heart takes over. So this stupidity is accepted.
Yes there are problems in my country and things are going from bad to worse in many respects. ( You know india , I do not know so will not say same thing is happening in India). Yes as Karl Marx said religion is Opium of poors it still true mostly in poor countries.
You write funny, bitingly and enjoy it. Just keep balance that is all. good luck
#11 Posted by jay on February 22, 2003 7:01:36 am
madani 8,
I provide only an interpretation. No body will ever know why the arjun trees are replaced by palm trees. You said it could be the US style. May be. But the fact remains that arjun trees are being replaced. I provided only an alternate view, choose the one that fits most of the facts, that is politically correct, that white washes the arabisation of pakistan, or that is purely paki-bashing. I claim no exclusiveness to truth, there may not be any truth-truth. Truth is that you choose to believe to be the truth. By the way, I am convinced that man did not land on the moon, it is a hoax by NASA.
That reminds me, the book says that it is revelations from god, the book says that he is the prophet. Is it required that proof of a system has to come from outside of it. Even to become a saint in the christian system one has to perform some mmiracles. sorry, that is another religion, not fortified by fatwa and blasphemy laws and jihad, the fangs that defend the religion.
I provide only an interpretation. No body will ever know why the arjun trees are replaced by palm trees. You said it could be the US style. May be. But the fact remains that arjun trees are being replaced. I provided only an alternate view, choose the one that fits most of the facts, that is politically correct, that white washes the arabisation of pakistan, or that is purely paki-bashing. I claim no exclusiveness to truth, there may not be any truth-truth. Truth is that you choose to believe to be the truth. By the way, I am convinced that man did not land on the moon, it is a hoax by NASA.
That reminds me, the book says that it is revelations from god, the book says that he is the prophet. Is it required that proof of a system has to come from outside of it. Even to become a saint in the christian system one has to perform some mmiracles. sorry, that is another religion, not fortified by fatwa and blasphemy laws and jihad, the fangs that defend the religion.
#9 Posted by no_more_a_slave on February 21, 2003 8:46:44 pm
ahmedmadani #8
There have been people who don`t like the planting of Neem trees because they say it is an Indian tree. Widespread hatred is worse than one person`s hatred.
There have been people who don`t like the planting of Neem trees because they say it is an Indian tree. Widespread hatred is worse than one person`s hatred.
#8 Posted by ahmedmadani on February 21, 2003 7:10:59 pm
Ref#2 Mr. Jay..... Yoy have been distorting all islamic things. You have hatred in your heart. It is not good for your health. May be for change stop writing for 2 months and feel how you feel, may be you may feel better.
I read original article (normally I do not read any original, but i write comments. As most of time comment and original articles have no connections). It nowhere says Arjun Trees are removed as they are hindu trees. I do not know why they removed. It is possible its fashion in USA to put Palm trees and here landscape people copy it. Where I work on Ziauddin Road we have also nice trees along with stupid Palm trees.
You should not distort. Criticism, even fun is ok but distortion is not ok.
May be you are making fun like I make fun of hindus as animal worshipers, or you Bajrang dal as army of Monkeyes and Apes. But I will not distort saying Hindus are mokey . I have found to much dogmatism takes away fun. You and our YLH are similar. Too much same thing. He feels M.A.Jinnah can not make mistake and you feel Jinnah made every mistake.
you are funny man but just make fun of us but leave that hatred. With best wishes
I read original article (normally I do not read any original, but i write comments. As most of time comment and original articles have no connections). It nowhere says Arjun Trees are removed as they are hindu trees. I do not know why they removed. It is possible its fashion in USA to put Palm trees and here landscape people copy it. Where I work on Ziauddin Road we have also nice trees along with stupid Palm trees.
You should not distort. Criticism, even fun is ok but distortion is not ok.
May be you are making fun like I make fun of hindus as animal worshipers, or you Bajrang dal as army of Monkeyes and Apes. But I will not distort saying Hindus are mokey . I have found to much dogmatism takes away fun. You and our YLH are similar. Too much same thing. He feels M.A.Jinnah can not make mistake and you feel Jinnah made every mistake.
you are funny man but just make fun of us but leave that hatred. With best wishes
#6 Posted by sri on February 21, 2003 10:31:02 am
Re : #2 by Jay
`` A tree with the name of the hero of mahabarata cannot survive in TNT ruled pakistan, to be replaced by palm trees to remind the pakistanis of their true arabic heritage, to remind them of the desert and its traditions, to which the country is steadily moving. ``
One could only have best wishes for pakis to make pakistan exactly resemble the scorched earth called arabia. The same arabia whose entire exports ( minus Oil ) are less than that of a small country called Finland. Without the western technology of Oil exploration, refinement and consumption arabs would still be soil nomads .... all in all, I say pakis are in the right path.
#5 Posted by afrasiyab on February 21, 2003 9:22:20 am
I never thought of Jinnah as an Orator. Bhutto, however was a better comparison.
Overall, it was well written.
Overall, it was well written.
#4 Posted by subroto on February 21, 2003 8:36:01 am
Am afraid not good enough, please don`t tell me there is more :-(
#3 Posted by jay on February 21, 2003 6:32:34 am
Faisalabad`s vanishing Arjun trees
The University of Agriculture, Faisalabad, is famous for its beautiful landscape. Trees have been a major part of this landscape since its creation.
There are beautiful trees, shrubs and herbs all along the university`s main road starting from the main gate up to the D-Ground. Most of these trees and plants are older than Pakistan.
Arjun was the dominant tree of this avenue. The large, evergreen tree of Arjun with spreading crowns, drooping branches and pinkish green smooth stem provided a good scene and comfort to passers-bye. But most of these trees have been replaced with bottle palm and other shrubs. This was not one`s desire to replace Arjun with bottle palm, but, in fact, many Arjun trees have died back.
///above is from dawn of today. A tree with the name of the hero of mahabarata cannot survive in TNT ruled pakistan, to be replaced by palm trees to remind the pakistanis of their true arabic heritage, to remind them of the desert and its traditions, to which the country is steadily moving. As the rules of pakistan are changed, the sheria, blasphemy laws, honor killing, jihad...one has to change the flora as well, what a fitting action by the followers of jinnah, replace the rjun trees aith date palms. Where is ylh, can we say that arjun is a saudi hero so that pakistanis can have something native to their country. There are limits to which one can take the TNT theory of hatred, but there is no limit in pakistan. What is in a name, but it means death for arjun trees in pakistan.
The University of Agriculture, Faisalabad, is famous for its beautiful landscape. Trees have been a major part of this landscape since its creation.
There are beautiful trees, shrubs and herbs all along the university`s main road starting from the main gate up to the D-Ground. Most of these trees and plants are older than Pakistan.
Arjun was the dominant tree of this avenue. The large, evergreen tree of Arjun with spreading crowns, drooping branches and pinkish green smooth stem provided a good scene and comfort to passers-bye. But most of these trees have been replaced with bottle palm and other shrubs. This was not one`s desire to replace Arjun with bottle palm, but, in fact, many Arjun trees have died back.
///above is from dawn of today. A tree with the name of the hero of mahabarata cannot survive in TNT ruled pakistan, to be replaced by palm trees to remind the pakistanis of their true arabic heritage, to remind them of the desert and its traditions, to which the country is steadily moving. As the rules of pakistan are changed, the sheria, blasphemy laws, honor killing, jihad...one has to change the flora as well, what a fitting action by the followers of jinnah, replace the rjun trees aith date palms. Where is ylh, can we say that arjun is a saudi hero so that pakistanis can have something native to their country. There are limits to which one can take the TNT theory of hatred, but there is no limit in pakistan. What is in a name, but it means death for arjun trees in pakistan.
#2 Posted by cmp99 on February 21, 2003 6:32:34 am
And what exactly did bring about the first fully Shariah-practicing state, deep under the streets of New York, to state of ruins within a short span of three weeks or 21 days to be exact?
Was it the lack of good cheap help? or the worn out elastic in Qadirs` shalwar?
Was it the lack of good cheap help? or the worn out elastic in Qadirs` shalwar?
#1 Posted by Ajeet on February 20, 2003 8:22:17 pm
I can`t wait to read, what brought the shariah-practicing state of wallistan to ruin in three weeks.
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