Rasheed Talib February 19, 2003
#3 Posted by SaimaShah on February 19, 2003 12:43:21 am
re: Jay
yes--but if u see the history of Islam though the majority is peaceful and willing to be modernized, through out history vested interests have overtaken reasonable interpretations. From Darah Shikoh to Fazlur Rahman to even Rushdie-from ibn rush to the great sufi saints (the analhaq fellow, Rumi etc). so many people have tried. from Bhutto to Zia and Musharraf, to Shah and Khomeini--there is a pendulum swinging between interpretations. One doesnt yet see the fulcrum.
yes--but if u see the history of Islam though the majority is peaceful and willing to be modernized, through out history vested interests have overtaken reasonable interpretations. From Darah Shikoh to Fazlur Rahman to even Rushdie-from ibn rush to the great sufi saints (the analhaq fellow, Rumi etc). so many people have tried. from Bhutto to Zia and Musharraf, to Shah and Khomeini--there is a pendulum swinging between interpretations. One doesnt yet see the fulcrum.
#2 Posted by jay on February 19, 2003 12:31:53 am
Rasheed,
Great to see some one introducing the concepts of temporal and eternal into the realms of islam. That is the device hindus have used to modernise themselves.
Great to see some one introducing the concepts of temporal and eternal into the realms of islam. That is the device hindus have used to modernise themselves.
#1 Posted by jay on February 19, 2003 12:28:25 am
Minister Sankaran held for ticketless travel
PAKISTANI TRAGEDY
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The Railway vigilance squad today held Health Minister P Sankaran and his gunman for ticketless travel. Two persons accompanying the minister ran away. The incident occurred at 7 00 am today morning when he arrived in the Rajadhani Express.
It is said that as the minister had a pass to travel as he is an ex-MP, but he forgot to take it. The warrant with the gunmen for travel had expired. Both were fined and let off. The other two could not be caught.
////The above is an instance where every indian can be proud of the rule of the law, where a puny railway inspector can fine a minister. What before anything else the muslim societies have to look at is the elemnts in the religion that prevents any rule of modern law in islamic countries. May be the book allows for fines when the traveler does not pay the camal driver, but will the book allow it to be applied to travel by air.
Well I know, why the four pakistanis hijacked the aircraft, it is not in the book to buy tickets.
PAKISTANI TRAGEDY
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The Railway vigilance squad today held Health Minister P Sankaran and his gunman for ticketless travel. Two persons accompanying the minister ran away. The incident occurred at 7 00 am today morning when he arrived in the Rajadhani Express.
It is said that as the minister had a pass to travel as he is an ex-MP, but he forgot to take it. The warrant with the gunmen for travel had expired. Both were fined and let off. The other two could not be caught.
////The above is an instance where every indian can be proud of the rule of the law, where a puny railway inspector can fine a minister. What before anything else the muslim societies have to look at is the elemnts in the religion that prevents any rule of modern law in islamic countries. May be the book allows for fines when the traveler does not pay the camal driver, but will the book allow it to be applied to travel by air.
Well I know, why the four pakistanis hijacked the aircraft, it is not in the book to buy tickets.
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