The Tyson Who Didn't Fight Lewis

Sooryavanshi Urstruly

Barhi thand kha ke bethe hoye ho! Eni naram naram post likhoge te Chowk vich garami kiveN aayegi? Do chaar galaN kad ke ik garama garam Post Oye HinduoN nu address karo te pher maamla zara garamaa jaaye.

Rab tuhaada bhala kare!

[And why did the muhajirs choose to leave India (which, going by chowk posts of some of my chowk friends from India, has streets paved with gold with beautiful IT programmers doing the belly dance on these streets, and muslims and hindus and tamils and northerners and low castes and high castes all politely bowing to one another as they pass one another)]

And going by some of my Paki friends` posts, one would think that all is hunky dory in Pakiland and there are no differences whatsoever between Punjabis and Sindhis, Balochis and Pukhtoons, Sunnis and Shias, and Muhajirs and everyone else. And you guys endlessly talk about the Ummah?? Forget the Ummah my friends, you haven`t been able to justify the TNT by constantly bickering amongst yourselves. And poor (or was it stupid?) Jinnah thought everything would be just fine if Muslims had their nation.

Welcome back Dilip,

In your case, one article every 6 months or so on CHOWK is not

enough. Do try to at least double your contributions here.

I read your work on Rediff and India Currents often.

You are one sane Indian and from what I know you are not alone.

Pakistanis have many such Tyson`s in their midst. Such a-holes

are unfortunately present in most countries but it is the tacit police

support that really bothers me.

Anyway, French Wine and Russian Caviar are going to be getting

cheaper here soon due to the Tyson`s in our media.

I propose an increase in consumption by peace lovers everywhere.


Ras

Tahmed sahib,
#32
line #1-8 : pointless, so no answer needed.
line#9: because they were duped by punjabis like you, who claims he `loves them`

thanks for mentioning BenglaDesh though.

Apni muhabbat apnay paas rakhain toe meherbaani ho gee! WE DON`T NEED IT! why don`t you get it!

According to Ghalib:

huway tum dost jiskay dushman uska AasmaN kyoon ho!

uRRA eeRee nahiN paRhaaN gay
JuRRa juRRee kat suttaN gay

Kachcha, Kangha, KaRRa, Karpaan
Bhaij diaN gay Pakistan

beeRRee cigarette piaaN gay
Shaan naal jiaN gay

Hindustan is/was ever a tolerant country - it is a myth. It was intolerant even before it came into existence. Had Hindu leadership shown some tolerance when they were in power during the 1938 congress government the country would never have been divided. It is anti-Muslim hate shown during the 1938 government which showed Muslims the true colors of Hindus and they got a pretty good idea what it would be like to live with them. Those Muslims who were beguiled by Nehru and Gandhi, today live the life of living dead and curse their ancestor why they chose to stay in India.

According to the data collected by home Ministry of India, since 1954, there has been on average 250+ anti-Muslim incidents annually in India where on average at least two Muslims are killed everyday by Hindu extremists. (This excludes the 80,000 Muslims murdered in Kashmir).

Sikhs were the next to bear the weight of “tolerance” of Hindu majority. The hate campaign against Sikhs started in early 50s as well when ghondas and badmaash of RSS and Jan Singh used to sing uRRA eeRee nahiN paRhaaN gay all around the sikh neighborhoods in Punjab looking for trouble. That finally resulted in the massacre of thousands of Sikhs in 1984 by Hindu extremist government and total destruction of their holy places.

Since 1947, India has invaded its neighbor four times breaking all International treaties and pacts. First they invaded Kashmir, breaking the formula of division which the three parties Hindus, Muslims and British agreed upon. Then they invaded Pakistan in 1965 breaking the UN resolutions which stipulated to settle disputes with mutual consultations. Then they invaded Pakistan in 1971, breaking non-aggression pact of Tashkent, and dismembered the country taking advantage of internal political matter of Pakistan. In 1984, they invaded again, capturing Siachin glacier, breaking Shimla agreement.

In such a country which is so intolerant to its own people and its own neighbors, people like Dilip D’Souza are people with a death wish and they know it. They are courageous souls, the lone crusaders who can’t help but speak the truth. In a country, which is ruled by fascist religious nuts, who have destroyed the lives and business of journalists of tahlaka.com , punishing them for speaking the truth, people like Dilip and Farzana Versey are real heroes. Don’t forget that Farzana lost her job because her hindu extremist boss couldn’t tolerate the truth.

Speaking of truth, India is probably the only country in the world (probably Israel also) where places of worship of other faiths are dug out to find gods. And no wonder both countries have the secularism at its best:

INDIAN SECULARISM AT ITS BEST

pak would be a much better place to live if establishment-type punjabis would get over the fascination with ideology of pakistan.

#16 by Sobia on March 11, 2003 6:37am PT

Well I don`t have to take lessons from a Paki on tolerance. Period.

Bhitai #31 Aha! Trying to sow the seeds of dissent between Pakistanis! Ha! Ha! And where did the muhajirs do their hijrat FROM, may I ask? Could it perhaps be...India??? And why did the muhajirs choose to leave India (which, going by chowk posts of some of my chowk friends from India, has streets paved with gold with beautiful IT programmers doing the belly dance on these streets, and muslims and hindus and tamils and northerners and low castes and high castes all politely bowing to one another as they pass one another) and come to Pakistan, may I ask most humbly?? And why do the muhajirs not in Pakistan wrap themselves with the Pakistani flag in Bangladesh and claim to be ardent Pakistanis and demand to be let in??
As for bashing us poor panjabis, no problem. Excuse me, I am moved to start singing:

A Baluch is my prime minister
Every desert cutie there
(all three of them)
Is my sister
A Muhajir is my President
(Addendum:
Never Mind the Referendum)
The MMA chappies be Pakhtoons
(someone give `em spittoons)
The thievin`, stealin` BB
Is my heartbreakin` Sindhi
And I love these Pakis one and all
(What can I do:
I am a panjabi
With heart enough to love em all)

A party which is neck deep in hero worship (Altaf Hussein) can hardly be called secular
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#26
Adnan sahib
Pls. don`t try to link unrelated concepts just to make a point. Hero-worship and secularism can coexist, as we have seen in case of Turkey. Let me remind you that the case in point here is religious fanaticism, and MQM has impeccable credentials when it comes to countering Mullahism. In fact Baluchistan and Sindh boast a number of parties (Jeay Sind, BNM etc.) that are deeply nationalistic and thus inherently secular in nature.

Now tell me, if you are faced with a decision to pick either MMA or MQM ..which one would you go for (and don`t tell me you would vote for balla)?

And btw., if muhajirs have been banished by the rest of the Pakistan (read punjabis), how does that prove it was MQM`s fault?

Ref adnan_rafiq #28

[The only thing MQM has achieved is total ostracism of Mohajirs from the rest of Pakistan and a systematic destruction of our once fine educational insitutions.]

Hey, don`t knock it. Two out of two ain`t bad at all.

Ref FarooqA #25

[Jay #13
....... You really are brimming over with hatred for Pakistan.]

And your heart, I presume, is brimming over with love for India.

Bhitai #26:

Perhaps, MQM should also take out a procession condemning its killings of other mohajirs and pathans. Another procession should be taken out condemning the drilled ankles, amputated limbs and ruined young lives caused by MQM. A party which is neck deep in hero worship (Altaf Hussein) can hardly be called secular. The only thing MQM has achieved is total ostracism of Mohajirs from the rest of Pakistan and a systematic destruction of our once fine educational insitutions.

Dear SaimaShah,

The only reason we don`t see a bunch of women protesting against Jamaat-e-Islaami in Pakistan is that they can`t or don`t want to imagine it. They`re scared of someone punching them and running away. The drawing room is safer!

Can you imagine a bunch of women protesting against Jamaat-e-Islaami in Pakistan
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#24
Come to karachi, such a scenario is very much imaginable. MQM is rabidly anti-jamaat, or anti-MMA. They were the only party to take it to streets condemning 9-11 tragedy, and the only major party NOT to participate in the anti-war march recently (asking Jamaat to first take out a procession condeming shiite killings!).

So here you have a staunchly secular party (I remember CNN calling them `beverly hills of pakistani politics`, while commenting on the 9-11 procession). In fact there are only two parties in Pakistan that never compromised their secular credentials..ANP and MQM (no wonder they are allies now, despite a history of bloody feuds during the 80s).

So jeeay muhajir, jeeay Sindh

Jay #13
There are countless news stories and artciles in the Pakistani English press condemning things like honour killings, persecution of minorities, women rights etc, but first of all you will have to take off your prejudice spectacles which are unfortunately far too thick and coloured for you to be able to put things in there right perspective. You really are brimming over with hatred for Pakistan.

Great piece of journalism, Dilip. Hope you keep writing here.

At least in India a bunch of women demonstrates for peace. Can you imagine a bunch of women protesting against Jamaat-e-Islaami in Pakistan? A women``s peace march in Lahore was tear gassed during the time of Nawaz Sharif.