Parthasarathy B April 9, 2003
#25 Posted by Tipu on April 12, 2003 2:31:24 pm
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#24 Posted by Saminasha on April 12, 2003 8:30:04 am
Sameer,
Perhaps Chowk should contact old users with a kid of email reminder and list of aricles currently on board...
Perhaps Chowk should contact old users with a kid of email reminder and list of aricles currently on board...
#23 Posted by Ralph on April 12, 2003 8:30:04 am
studebaker
Anglo Indians and Christians are not the same. Christians have made India their home. Christians in India have no loyalty to any other country across any border. When they emigate they do so for economic reasons, like other Indians.
Anglo Indians and Christians are not the same. Christians have made India their home. Christians in India have no loyalty to any other country across any border. When they emigate they do so for economic reasons, like other Indians.
#22 Posted by Bhitai on April 12, 2003 12:54:30 am
To all religion haters..
no matter what you `free-thinkers` do or say, humanity`s obsession with the religion hasn`t lessened, in fact it has increased lately. Middle-east seems to be everybody`s center of attention - be it muslims who bow to makka, or the American neo-con whose qibla lies in tel Aviv. Somehow the legacy of Ibrahim is still very much active in shaping the history. call it good or bad, but that`s the way it is, and it`s Abraham`s birthplace and his progeny at fight once again, and who knows for the last time now...
if anyone`s dreaming for humanity`s `evolution` past religion, they should go to cryogenics and stay frozen for atleast one full millenium....(wait a minute, may be few more millenia, since ABRAHAM AIN`T GOING ANYWHERE anytime soon!!)
no matter what you `free-thinkers` do or say, humanity`s obsession with the religion hasn`t lessened, in fact it has increased lately. Middle-east seems to be everybody`s center of attention - be it muslims who bow to makka, or the American neo-con whose qibla lies in tel Aviv. Somehow the legacy of Ibrahim is still very much active in shaping the history. call it good or bad, but that`s the way it is, and it`s Abraham`s birthplace and his progeny at fight once again, and who knows for the last time now...
if anyone`s dreaming for humanity`s `evolution` past religion, they should go to cryogenics and stay frozen for atleast one full millenium....(wait a minute, may be few more millenia, since ABRAHAM AIN`T GOING ANYWHERE anytime soon!!)
#21 Posted by kamala on April 11, 2003 7:56:39 pm
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#20 Posted by SameerJB on April 11, 2003 7:56:39 pm
Hi Samina dear, I am still alive and kicking. Instead of responding post by post, I have been writing mostly general posts without directing it to any one individual. In this way, I do not feel obligation to go one-on-one as the case is. I am also disappointed with the level of emotionalism and obsession with K words.
Chowk has to do something to attract new interactors. With the current known crowd including myself, the content of the post could be guessed quite accurately without reading it. Many of my favorite interlocutors have disappeared. I do miss fuzair, arun gupta, gymnosophist, shammi and of course, late Bilal Ahmed. I hope you stay.....regards.
Chowk has to do something to attract new interactors. With the current known crowd including myself, the content of the post could be guessed quite accurately without reading it. Many of my favorite interlocutors have disappeared. I do miss fuzair, arun gupta, gymnosophist, shammi and of course, late Bilal Ahmed. I hope you stay.....regards.
#19 Posted by gomak on April 11, 2003 8:07:33 am
Religion is part of the bigger problem I agree!! about the War I think it not a `war for oil` or `war against Islam` its `a war for stategc intrests` as simple as it could get.
#18 Posted by Nomani on April 11, 2003 8:07:33 am
#12 by sameerJB:- Sameer wrote
`` A religion only exists because of its practitioners and what people practice is their religion. Thus, it is useless to say that religions meant good and people made them bad. ``
Very good point Sameer.
#16 Posted by Studebaker on April 10, 2003 11:31:50 pm
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#15 Posted by Ralph on April 10, 2003 10:16:24 pm
SameeJB
Indian Christianity is older than Christianity in most of Europe. Indian Christians are also well represented in India`s corporate world where what counts is performance.
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham only create problems for Indian Christians with their activities instead of helping.
Indian Christianity is older than Christianity in most of Europe. Indian Christians are also well represented in India`s corporate world where what counts is performance.
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham only create problems for Indian Christians with their activities instead of helping.
#14 Posted by Studebaker on April 10, 2003 8:19:10 pm
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#13 Posted by Ras on April 10, 2003 8:19:10 pm
Too much eye wash and not enough substance behind this war.
Ras
#12 Posted by SameerJB on April 10, 2003 6:03:12 pm
The left side of the brain deals with rational thinking, logic and wisdom whereas right side of the brain deals with abstract thoughts, potery, cognition, revealtion, spirituality, hallucination, schizophrenia and visions.
Religions do not exist without host - the humans. To the best of out knowledge animal kingdom and plants work by natural built-in instinct. They do not have religions. A religion only exists because of its practitioners and what people practice is their religion. Thus, it is useless to say that religions meant good and people made them bad.
Religions start like viruses specifically targeting the domains of the right side of the brain. However, like viruses, they mutate in self-preservation and overtake immunity of the left side of the brain. They start interfering and controlling left side of the brain. That is the case with major religions at present. It is life of a parasite where host are willing partners to the survival and proliferation of parasites in the body.
Parasites do work on the brain chemistry to reward its host in the form of releasing fee good chemicals. The controlled host becomes the carrier of the parasite to infect others known as proselytization. It is not an easy task though becasue the target is already infected with different kind of parasite or has strong immunity to parasites. The swords, guns, Sufis, mullahs, preachers, missionaries, music, media, providing basic services etc are used to overtake the body of the new host.
Once host dies with time, the parasites also die with it. A dead person becomes free of religious parasite, then other kind of bacteria and parasites degrade and bring an end to the dead body.
Conversions are different than hiring a host. A hired or employed person only is loyal worker to the company/ parasite, but a convert passes that loyalty to the next generation. Coversion is different than marketing any other product. The sale and marketing pitch is meant to convince an individual only but conversion passes on convincing to generations after generations. Conversion is like caste system where generations after generations remain attached to caste profession.
Pope had a visions during late 1980s that next decade would be good for the salvation of communist souls. Papa Bush and Pope soon had another visions for the salvation of oriental souls but that effort collapsed in Tian-an- Main Square. The great evangelical churches and their leaders including Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and baba-e-evangelism Billy Graham did have visions for the salvation of Indian souls.
Indian Christinaity has come long way - from nowhere to be found in the Indian Freedom Struggle to having as many as five Christian ministers in the cabinet of Narasimha Rao. India has potential to be as much as 10 percent Christian within next 50 years. During the same time period, Muslim population will rise to 16-17 percent due to the higher birth rate and most of the Sikhs will be living abroad.
The chance of Christianity succeeding in Muslim world is remote and perhaps did not play any role in the current Iraq crisis. The Christians of the middle-east, like most Christians of Kerala are Christians before most Muslims were Muslims.
Religions do not exist without host - the humans. To the best of out knowledge animal kingdom and plants work by natural built-in instinct. They do not have religions. A religion only exists because of its practitioners and what people practice is their religion. Thus, it is useless to say that religions meant good and people made them bad.
Religions start like viruses specifically targeting the domains of the right side of the brain. However, like viruses, they mutate in self-preservation and overtake immunity of the left side of the brain. They start interfering and controlling left side of the brain. That is the case with major religions at present. It is life of a parasite where host are willing partners to the survival and proliferation of parasites in the body.
Parasites do work on the brain chemistry to reward its host in the form of releasing fee good chemicals. The controlled host becomes the carrier of the parasite to infect others known as proselytization. It is not an easy task though becasue the target is already infected with different kind of parasite or has strong immunity to parasites. The swords, guns, Sufis, mullahs, preachers, missionaries, music, media, providing basic services etc are used to overtake the body of the new host.
Once host dies with time, the parasites also die with it. A dead person becomes free of religious parasite, then other kind of bacteria and parasites degrade and bring an end to the dead body.
Conversions are different than hiring a host. A hired or employed person only is loyal worker to the company/ parasite, but a convert passes that loyalty to the next generation. Coversion is different than marketing any other product. The sale and marketing pitch is meant to convince an individual only but conversion passes on convincing to generations after generations. Conversion is like caste system where generations after generations remain attached to caste profession.
Pope had a visions during late 1980s that next decade would be good for the salvation of communist souls. Papa Bush and Pope soon had another visions for the salvation of oriental souls but that effort collapsed in Tian-an- Main Square. The great evangelical churches and their leaders including Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and baba-e-evangelism Billy Graham did have visions for the salvation of Indian souls.
Indian Christinaity has come long way - from nowhere to be found in the Indian Freedom Struggle to having as many as five Christian ministers in the cabinet of Narasimha Rao. India has potential to be as much as 10 percent Christian within next 50 years. During the same time period, Muslim population will rise to 16-17 percent due to the higher birth rate and most of the Sikhs will be living abroad.
The chance of Christianity succeeding in Muslim world is remote and perhaps did not play any role in the current Iraq crisis. The Christians of the middle-east, like most Christians of Kerala are Christians before most Muslims were Muslims.
#11 Posted by kamala on April 10, 2003 5:57:16 pm
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#10 Posted by PaagalInsaan on April 10, 2003 5:27:30 pm
Religion is a cheap prostitute that has always been raped.
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