Nadeem Akram April 19, 2003
#15 Posted by Abbas312 on June 5, 2003 11:27:14 pm
I agree whole heartedly about pakistani batters lacking technigue generally, these days.However in the past many batting greats have been produced by the country and hence the rapid decline in the 1990`s and currently in batting standards needs to be analysed/discussed in greater detail.
#14 Posted by Munjan on May 29, 2003 10:08:15 pm
Pakistani batters lack technique in general. Taufeeq Umar is a prime example. Pakistani cricket-setup has not been producing world class batsmen all we did is produce some good fast bowlers, barring Inzy we cant even name a single guy worthy of any ranking in the world`s top batsmen.
Munajn
Munajn
#13 Posted by Abbas312 on May 29, 2003 5:55:43 am
Although Imran Nazir has been recently recalled to the national side..it is no secret that his technique is faulty and he is vulnerable to the swinging ball as well as the short pitched delivery.Therefore expect a smashing hundred in the forthcoming Bangladesh Series followed by abject failure against the South Africans and the Pommies.
#12 Posted by cassim on May 27, 2003 5:15:39 pm
Atlast, this player has been selected and is included in the squad for England. :)
#11 Posted by cassim on April 22, 2003 9:45:34 pm
Yes, Ian Chappel also was a great admirer of Imran Nazir.
#10 Posted by semipreciousme on April 22, 2003 3:57:54 pm
...nadeem akram as in wasim akram`s older brother?...
#9 Posted by moulabux on April 22, 2003 12:57:52 pm
nadimakhtr,
Ian Chappel actually worked on Imran Nazir`s technique, but to no avail. Make out whatever you want to make of this.
Cheers.
Ian Chappel actually worked on Imran Nazir`s technique, but to no avail. Make out whatever you want to make of this.
Cheers.
#8 Posted by cassim on April 20, 2003 10:26:57 pm
I agree with the writer. Imran nazir is one batsman who has been continously ignored by the selection committee. He is much better than Taufiq umar, Mohammad Hafeez, Imran Farhat.
Shoaib Muhammad was also a victim of politics.
Shoaib Muhammad was also a victim of politics.
#7 Posted by rozaiba on April 20, 2003 3:47:41 pm
out of, taufeeq umar, mohammad hafeez, imran nazir, imran farhat, i`d say imran nazir is the most capable.
as for technique, shoaib mohammed i vaguely recall had excellent technique. but his test match innings were the most boring to watch.
as for technique, shoaib mohammed i vaguely recall had excellent technique. but his test match innings were the most boring to watch.
#6 Posted by nadeemakr on April 20, 2003 10:00:26 am
Saminasha: I thank you for encouragemnt; it means a lot to me.
Munjan: Agreed but so does Mohammad Hafeez and the likes that we selected for Sharjah; Imran needed coaching not axing!
Nawaid: I share your sentiments about Aamir and Saeed being the best opening pair Pakistan ever had in ODIs, but Aamir was never a great batsman, Saeed is! He had an attitude problem and is unwilling to submit to people in authority. His only claim to fame is his whistle blowing stunt that he alonwith Rashid and AttaurRehman perfomed against Wasim.
Munjan: I stand corrected and I thank you for that!
Moulabux: Your comments have made me to do my homwork a little better than I did this time around.
Talking of bad techinque, well please enlighten me as to who has a perfect technique in the present line-up including that of Younas Khan? Imran needed encouragement not banishment? That is what coaches are there for, right?
Munjan: Agreed but so does Mohammad Hafeez and the likes that we selected for Sharjah; Imran needed coaching not axing!
Nawaid: I share your sentiments about Aamir and Saeed being the best opening pair Pakistan ever had in ODIs, but Aamir was never a great batsman, Saeed is! He had an attitude problem and is unwilling to submit to people in authority. His only claim to fame is his whistle blowing stunt that he alonwith Rashid and AttaurRehman perfomed against Wasim.
Munjan: I stand corrected and I thank you for that!
Moulabux: Your comments have made me to do my homwork a little better than I did this time around.
Talking of bad techinque, well please enlighten me as to who has a perfect technique in the present line-up including that of Younas Khan? Imran needed encouragement not banishment? That is what coaches are there for, right?
#5 Posted by Saminasha on April 19, 2003 10:42:26 pm
``yielding willow and leather`` ; what a wonderful phrase...
#4 Posted by Munjan on April 19, 2003 7:57:30 pm
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Imran Nazir has a bad technique.
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and probably he does, that underlines the ineffectiveness of the doemestic cricket structure that he has been unable to correct his technical flaws. These batsmen are product of taped-tennis ball cricket where you do not need much of foot-work. Saeed Anwar had a horrible footwaork in early years of his career, Shahid Afridi still has no foot movement and he is an established cricketer who holds few world record under his belt.
The issue was and remains that your doemestic cricket structure stinks and does not provide opportunities to these youngsters to fix problems in their techniques.
I get frecked when people praise Tufiq Umar. That man has huge flaws in his technique (not to speak of lack of any mental toughness) he commits to a shot and moves his bat in a weired way in a semi-circle and will pay dearly on fast and rising pitches. He might turn out to be a mildly successful batsman on sub-continenet`s slow pitches, but that is it, do not expect mircles from the guy.
Munajn.
Imran Nazir has a bad technique.
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and probably he does, that underlines the ineffectiveness of the doemestic cricket structure that he has been unable to correct his technical flaws. These batsmen are product of taped-tennis ball cricket where you do not need much of foot-work. Saeed Anwar had a horrible footwaork in early years of his career, Shahid Afridi still has no foot movement and he is an established cricketer who holds few world record under his belt.
The issue was and remains that your doemestic cricket structure stinks and does not provide opportunities to these youngsters to fix problems in their techniques.
I get frecked when people praise Tufiq Umar. That man has huge flaws in his technique (not to speak of lack of any mental toughness) he commits to a shot and moves his bat in a weired way in a semi-circle and will pay dearly on fast and rising pitches. He might turn out to be a mildly successful batsman on sub-continenet`s slow pitches, but that is it, do not expect mircles from the guy.
Munajn.
#3 Posted by nawaid on April 19, 2003 4:00:18 pm
Ok i understand, to get good rating on Chowk an article has to be critical of someone but it should have some lavel and some issue. No doubt, Pakistani cricket has lots of problem and probably Gen Tauqir is responsible for most of the poblems but so much noise about a young batsman whoose batting technique is incorrect and average is only 24.92 in considerable 53 matches making no sense.
The mockery writer made of Amir Sohail by using one incidence of 1996`s emotional match also very childish and criticism for the sake of criticism. Saeed Anwar and Ammir Sohail is the best opening pair we have in years and i believe Ammir Sohail is far more victim of cricket politics then young Imran Nazir. Theories that Ammir is chief selector because of his improved English and Amir Nazir is out because of his taking side of Wasim Akram seems to be based on writer`s fantasy that Amir Nazir is one of the best opener in the world and he should have been in the team at any cost.
I believe new opener Taufiq and Hafeez should be given atleast half of the chances given to Amir N and Afridi before replaced.
Also i think Qasim Omer was Kenyan born one down batsman,when he did the wicket keeping?
The mockery writer made of Amir Sohail by using one incidence of 1996`s emotional match also very childish and criticism for the sake of criticism. Saeed Anwar and Ammir Sohail is the best opening pair we have in years and i believe Ammir Sohail is far more victim of cricket politics then young Imran Nazir. Theories that Ammir is chief selector because of his improved English and Amir Nazir is out because of his taking side of Wasim Akram seems to be based on writer`s fantasy that Amir Nazir is one of the best opener in the world and he should have been in the team at any cost.
I believe new opener Taufiq and Hafeez should be given atleast half of the chances given to Amir N and Afridi before replaced.
Also i think Qasim Omer was Kenyan born one down batsman,when he did the wicket keeping?
#2 Posted by Munjan on April 19, 2003 3:25:23 pm
I have No clue what you meant by:
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and Imran’s quest for absolute power--- vis-à-vis the untimely demise of many a promising cricketers such as Iqbal Qasim and the wicket keeper Qasim Umar.
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Iqbal Qasim
Iqbal Qasim was a legendary left arm spinner who blossemed under Imran Khan`s captaincy, and one can not forget his role in Pakistan`s test win against India in 1985, in Banglore. It can not be said that his career was cut short by Imran Khan.
Qasim Umar
He was not at all a wicket keeper rather, this Kenyan born Pakistani batsman was Right Handed opening batsman who had the courage to take bouncers of likes of Jeff Thomson on his chest. Qasim Umar was also a medium pacer, but NOT AT ALL A WICKET KEEPER. Yes his career was finished because of his differences with Imran Khan and his non-serious appraoch towards cricket.
Your facts are horribly wrong man!
Cheers,
Munjan.
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and Imran’s quest for absolute power--- vis-à-vis the untimely demise of many a promising cricketers such as Iqbal Qasim and the wicket keeper Qasim Umar.
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Iqbal Qasim
Iqbal Qasim was a legendary left arm spinner who blossemed under Imran Khan`s captaincy, and one can not forget his role in Pakistan`s test win against India in 1985, in Banglore. It can not be said that his career was cut short by Imran Khan.
Qasim Umar
He was not at all a wicket keeper rather, this Kenyan born Pakistani batsman was Right Handed opening batsman who had the courage to take bouncers of likes of Jeff Thomson on his chest. Qasim Umar was also a medium pacer, but NOT AT ALL A WICKET KEEPER. Yes his career was finished because of his differences with Imran Khan and his non-serious appraoch towards cricket.
Your facts are horribly wrong man!
Cheers,
Munjan.
#1 Posted by moulabux on April 19, 2003 1:25:40 pm
Mr. Nadim,
Why don`t you join in with the kith and kin of your fallen hero, and curse the unseen powers? Imran Nazir is very incorrect technically. He lacks feet movement. Give him anything outside the off stump, and he will flash at it, without moving his feet. Initially, he rode on his luck and a lack of information of his batting technique, and held sway, scoring quite a bit with his flashy cuts and slices, in the process, becoming the darling of the crowd, especially that of Sharjah. It didn`t last long, and a good and consistent line outside the off-stump generally ended his innings, and the runs dried up. Faisal Iqbal, on the other hand, is technically much more correct, and his drives can be a treat to watch. He has a cricketing pedigree to go with that. Also, Aamir Sohail wasn`t a mediocre cricketer in his heyday. We haven`t had a stable opening combination ever since his departure.
Agreed, in Pakistan, the domestic cricketing infrastructure is not up to the mark, and raw talent is not nurtured and groomed in a desirable manner. Imran Nazir`s case could be argued in that context. But he needs to go back to coaching school, and improve his footwork.
A lamentable victim of our system is Ali Asad, the lanky fast bowler, who`s career was ruined because of rape allegations when touring NewZealand with the Under-19 squad. I last saw him playing in the UAE. He was someone who could shoulder the responsibility after the departure of the two W`s.
Cheers.
Why don`t you join in with the kith and kin of your fallen hero, and curse the unseen powers? Imran Nazir is very incorrect technically. He lacks feet movement. Give him anything outside the off stump, and he will flash at it, without moving his feet. Initially, he rode on his luck and a lack of information of his batting technique, and held sway, scoring quite a bit with his flashy cuts and slices, in the process, becoming the darling of the crowd, especially that of Sharjah. It didn`t last long, and a good and consistent line outside the off-stump generally ended his innings, and the runs dried up. Faisal Iqbal, on the other hand, is technically much more correct, and his drives can be a treat to watch. He has a cricketing pedigree to go with that. Also, Aamir Sohail wasn`t a mediocre cricketer in his heyday. We haven`t had a stable opening combination ever since his departure.
Agreed, in Pakistan, the domestic cricketing infrastructure is not up to the mark, and raw talent is not nurtured and groomed in a desirable manner. Imran Nazir`s case could be argued in that context. But he needs to go back to coaching school, and improve his footwork.
A lamentable victim of our system is Ali Asad, the lanky fast bowler, who`s career was ruined because of rape allegations when touring NewZealand with the Under-19 squad. I last saw him playing in the UAE. He was someone who could shoulder the responsibility after the departure of the two W`s.
Cheers.
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