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Reply Urstruly, Tahmed

Usually I try and stay out of it when you all discuss your royal family, but...

``I dont think that Benazir became corrupt because she started wearing headscarf.``

Putting on hijab in order to more efficiently steal public moneys is pretty corrupt, na - icing on the cake, IMHO - or have I misunderstood?

sattar2 #96 I told you that I am tired of your looking for loopholes in my arguments like a lawyer, while ignoring the substance of what I wrote. I am not going to waste my time repeating the substance of what I wrote. If you wish to lick the boots of a khalifa like whatshisface naqshbandi licks the boots of other men, be my guest. Bye bye.

urstruly #94 Glad we agree on something. :-)
I would not however use begum wali khan as a paragon of modesty though: She was caught shoplifting women`s underwear from a UK store. I remember some pakistani politician coming gallantly to her defence by saying that she does not in fact wear underwear. He did not explain how he determined her lack of underwear. She chose some other story (claiming this was a jewish store creating trouble for her).

hamidm #95 I guess it is safe for you to use the word negro on chowk. In real life, the ``negro`` would probably beat the crap out of you. :-)

``have you been following astrology recently ?. i read that all things are all screwy these days because of mercury being retrogade. its affecting all signs. things are supposed to improve from may 20th onwards and by june 4th all the signs should feel better.

i think some of this stuff is true``(courage)

a courageous statement indeed -- takes a lot of courage to say that --

``I am a kafir, you, hamidm and SR are murtids, temporal and tahmed are munafiks, and are all going to end up in the same place... ``(dost-mitter)

and what happened to that good old mulhid -- nasah --

is he going to the `same place` -- ahead of all you guys? --

the last I heard from him -- he said he is NOT going to the `same place`:-)

dost-mittar:
Let`s continue this and related discussions at Arian`s (is it aryan or araiN?) Mutant Muslims thread. Planets and stars are aligning there to energize mutants, pisceans and aquarians.

It was actually Jupiter at wrong alignment on August 14-15, 1947 that caused Kashmir and other Indo-Pakistan problems. Had we been given freedonm on February 29, 1947, none of the problems would have existed.

``just as negroes were``(hamidm2)

negroes?

Hamidm MiaN -- negroes no longer live in the United States.

SameerJB:
Around here, nobody pays any great attention to Hijab anymore. It`s simply accepted part of the multicultural scene. So what if it is a symbol of their commitment to their religion. Isn`t turban a symbol of religious commitment by Sikhs, the awkward dhotis, shaven heads and tufts a symbol of Hare Krishna Hindus, funny hats and hairlocks a symbol of Hasisdic jews?...one could go on and on.
Why go after a symptom rather than the root cause, which was correctly identified by SR as the early childhood training that forbids people to question anything in the book? Until that happens, I am a kafir, you, hamidm and SR are murtids, temporal and tahmed are munafiks, and are all going to end up in the same place...

Reply Saminasha #92

May I suggest a Passover equivalent, in which we each consume a page of good advice of whose wisdom and relevance we are aware, but which we do not intend to follow. (Stuff like: quit smoking, take up exercise, be polite to mother-in-law, treat women and men as equals, recycle, take public transport...)

This page can stand in for the bitter herbs, and will, of course, be followed by goat curry, goat salad and goat mousse. My point is that once we have memorialised this in a ritual we can avoid the issue for the rest of the year.

What about Pinkyfeld? Would the story line admit a poodle better than it would a goat, and if so, do you think the connection would be immediately apparent to our target audience. (Mr Urstruly? What do you think?)

Best regards

SaminaSha92:

wow, i`m going to read that post again.


off-topic, but have you been following astrology recently ?. i read that all things are all screwy these days because of mercury being retrogade. its affecting all signs. things are supposed to improve from may 20th onwards and by june 4th all the signs should feel better.

i think some of this stuff is true. i mean we know what physical affect invisible rays have on us, like ultraviolet and the cellphone electromagnetic fields and if you know about rekki, then you know how it trys to help by making sure energies flow in and out properly through us, the indian concept of chakras is similar and yoga is supposed to help too. we also know what mood swing affects drugs have on us, by the chemical imbalances they cause in our minds, you know, mushrooms and certain plants. so the astrological theory is that at the time of our birth certain planets were in certain positions and their particular rays and energies `initialized` us, so to say. so even though all people of the same sign aren`t the exactly the same they take on the affects caused by the individual planets that were either retro or active during the time of our birth. its not a science as yet.

regards

ZafarA,

A peice of goat trivia, theres an annual festival in Ireland called Puck Fair, where the goat is celebrated. For more info visit Puck Fair on houston street, near lafayette st. ny, ny

..... modesty! ............ what the heck does this mean? ...... is this one of those things that `` you will recognize it when you see it`` ............this is tpypical islamist sophistry ...... there is nothing modest about the hijab - it is a militant symbol of fundamentalist islam that is at odds with modernity and has nothing to do with personal values ............ some muslim women are conditioned to wear the hijab just as negroes were conditioned to step off the sidewalk when they saw a white man approaching ........ others are rabid religious bigots who are out to prove a point .......... it is about as benign as the hoods of the kkk !.................

Tahmed Sahib,

After reading your latest post, a few clarifications are in order.

Simply stated, you have been unable to validate your belief in end of prophethood. You offered your opinion on the subject … but could not support it by reasoning. Furthermore, your opinions are negated by the spirit and content of Quran, as I showed.

You later argued that the prophethood issue is not important. This is like the captain abandoning a sinking ship … since on numerous occasions you have criticized Ahmadi-Muslims on basis of this issue. You Sahib, are now backsliding … and failing to acknowledge flaws in your reasoning. Your position indicates that … your beliefs have command over your rationality … while you continue to extol the virtues of logic and reasoning.

I hope you take my comments in a good-spirited manner … and not feel personally insulted by them. The idea is not to unnecessarily berate you … but to make it clear … that you should not criticize others … if you cannot backup your statements with sound reasoning. Regards.

tahmad

It is a fair commentary and I partially agree with it. But keep in mind that Begum Nasim Wali Khan, Begum Abida Hussain, Begum Rana Liaqat Ali Khan also refused to dress ``modestly`` and yet they are respected by as many people as they are hated by but not for their un-modesty. I think we have different perspectives on ``slap on face thing``. I dont think that Benazir became corrupt because she started wearing headscarf.

urstruly #90 Lets be honest: Benazir ``wore modesty`` (i.e. put a covering over her head) as a political device to negate attempts by mullahs to portray her as a loose woman, as mullahs are all to eager to do whenever they find a women whom they think would be vulnerable to their taunts. Benazir`s ``modesty`` was not a mark of Benazir`s purity, but a mark of the ``napak`` nature of many Pakistanis men who oppress women under their control, and taunt women not under their control, given any opportunity.

Benazir`s ``modesty`` was a slap on the face of all such men in Pakistan. And no reflection on Benazir, who immodestly considers herself the rightful heir to the throne in Pakistan, even after she and her husband looted the nations wealth.