Jamil Omar May 14, 2003
#25 Posted by Ansari on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
PaagalInsaan: last I went, a plate of Sabri nihari cost 18 rupees, maghaz nihari 30 something, I believe.
#24 Posted by raza_2809 on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
I like the local delicacies more than any things else……….Mc donalds, KFC, Subway are not doing as good nowadays as they were in the honeymoon prd….initially ppl rushed to these outlets coz of the hype created by them….soon it fade out due to price/taste
#23 Posted by escapist on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
here is the part related to the dicussion, but since this is so
interesting, I coudnt help pasting the whole.
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As the rift between Europe and America deepens, there are signs that
the world could be entering a new era of economic boycotts. CNN
reported that Americans are emptying French wine into gutters,
chanting, ``We don`t want your stinking wine.`` We`ve heard about the
re-baptism of French fries. Freedom fries they`re called now. There`s
news trickling in about Americans boycotting German goods. The thing
is that if the fallout of the war takes this turn, it is the US who
will suffer the most. Its homeland may be defended by border patrols
and nuclear weapons, but its economy is strung out across the globe.
Its economic outposts are exposed and vulnerable to attack in every
direction. Already the internet is buzzing with elaborate lists of
American and British government products and companies that should be
boycotted. Apart from the usual targets, Coke, Pepsi and McDonald`s -
government agencies such as USAID, the British department for
international development, British and Am....
It`s become clear that the war against terror is not really about
terror, and the war on Iraq not only about oil. It`s about a
superpower`s self-destructive impulse towards supremacy,
stranglehold, global hegemony. The argument is being made that the
people of Argentina and Iraq have both been decimated by the same
process. Only the weapons used against them differ: In one case it`s
an IMF chequebook. In the other, cruise missiles
interesting, I coudnt help pasting the whole.
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As the rift between Europe and America deepens, there are signs that
the world could be entering a new era of economic boycotts. CNN
reported that Americans are emptying French wine into gutters,
chanting, ``We don`t want your stinking wine.`` We`ve heard about the
re-baptism of French fries. Freedom fries they`re called now. There`s
news trickling in about Americans boycotting German goods. The thing
is that if the fallout of the war takes this turn, it is the US who
will suffer the most. Its homeland may be defended by border patrols
and nuclear weapons, but its economy is strung out across the globe.
Its economic outposts are exposed and vulnerable to attack in every
direction. Already the internet is buzzing with elaborate lists of
American and British government products and companies that should be
boycotted. Apart from the usual targets, Coke, Pepsi and McDonald`s -
government agencies such as USAID, the British department for
international development, British and Am....
It`s become clear that the war against terror is not really about
terror, and the war on Iraq not only about oil. It`s about a
superpower`s self-destructive impulse towards supremacy,
stranglehold, global hegemony. The argument is being made that the
people of Argentina and Iraq have both been decimated by the same
process. Only the weapons used against them differ: In one case it`s
an IMF chequebook. In the other, cruise missiles
#22 Posted by veeresh on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
Thank you Jamil. To compliment and complement your article, here is a REPORT FROM SOUTH DELHI, where also reside fine food like Karim Nemat Keda (all your MPs were eating there a few days ago, after which they started talking about peace etcetc.)
a) We understand cars with arrow number plates, we also understand Section 144, but what does a green number plate signify? (We have white for private, yellow for public, black/yellow for self-drive rental, blue for diplomats and red for temporary. Also plenty without number plates.)
b) We cannot understand why KFC has not shut down and vanished. Here in Delhi they tried 99 rupees eat as much as you can, and when even that did not work, they had to shut down.
c) Pizza King now sells tandoori and veg flavours. Most Pizza King outlets have a desi fast food on either side as well as a cart opposite.
d) The burger subway syndrome has moved into health food and baked samosas. Sure, there were lines outside McDonalds here too, but not anymore. The prices are also in direct competition now with the thelaa vala.
Which begs the question:- are we actually causing ``them`` more damage by consuming more of their stuff since it seems they are on a losing wicket anyway?
a) We understand cars with arrow number plates, we also understand Section 144, but what does a green number plate signify? (We have white for private, yellow for public, black/yellow for self-drive rental, blue for diplomats and red for temporary. Also plenty without number plates.)
b) We cannot understand why KFC has not shut down and vanished. Here in Delhi they tried 99 rupees eat as much as you can, and when even that did not work, they had to shut down.
c) Pizza King now sells tandoori and veg flavours. Most Pizza King outlets have a desi fast food on either side as well as a cart opposite.
d) The burger subway syndrome has moved into health food and baked samosas. Sure, there were lines outside McDonalds here too, but not anymore. The prices are also in direct competition now with the thelaa vala.
Which begs the question:- are we actually causing ``them`` more damage by consuming more of their stuff since it seems they are on a losing wicket anyway?
#21 Posted by tahmed32 on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
Your midset is the reason why conditions are so miserable in Pakistan, why Pakistanis are scrambling to go to other countries whenever they can. It is the reason Pakistan has been reduced from an economically progressive country into one of the most backward nations of the world, and slipped last year even behind India in per capita income. Let me explain why:
a. Interference with the market: Who appointed you to decide what kind of food places should be permitted in Pakistan? Your mindset is no different from that of Bhutto who singlehandedly derailed Pakistan from being among the most progressive nations of the third world into the most backward - the entrepreneurs (large ones, as well as small ones owning one lakh rupee units) were taken out and they left the country for other places where their talents were more appreciated. You are doing the same thing.
b. Ignorance: These fast food places are owned by pakistani entrepreneurs, employ local youth and cater to the local population (contrary to your assertion - even if they catered to foreigners, that would be a contribution to badly needed jobs for the youth in Pakistan.). They provide a standard of cleanliness that is badly needed in Pakistan - the only properly maintained public toilets I have seen anywhere in Pakistan have been at McDonalds. Even military messes, airports and suchlikes dont come close, and about your dhabbas the less said the better.
The main affect you are having is to take these jobs away and to discourage the owners from investing in Pakistan. You think you are making even dent in the US economy with this? You obviously are ignorant of what the US economy is all about. Close down all the fast food restaurants in Pakistan, and it will still have essentially zero impact on the US economy. That economy is based on sound economic principles, on concepts of property rights, governance, and encouragement of free enterprise, and is far more resilient and extensive than you obviously know.
c. Hatred for the US: This brings me to my next point. You say your goal is to damage the US economy. I wont ask why since i know the mentality of people like you quite well - westerners may wonder why, but as a pakistani I know people like you. If today the US consulate were to tell you and your fellow boycotters to stand on one foot for a day and then come back the next day with some hope of getting a visa, you would forget your high and mighty talk and fall over one another to get in line to stand on one foot. (Once you have your visa, of course, you will be back to normal and blowing hot air about US foreign policy and what not). You will no doubt deny this, but it is a fact that even the worst US haters - the maulvis - send their children to the US (not to madrsassahs, not to Jeddah) for education.
My only regret is that individuals like you are not required to live in the shi!t that you have made in Pakistan. You create the mess, then run off to the US or UK at the first opportunity, leaving unemployed youth and future generations of Pakistanis to suffer the consequences of your actions.
a. Interference with the market: Who appointed you to decide what kind of food places should be permitted in Pakistan? Your mindset is no different from that of Bhutto who singlehandedly derailed Pakistan from being among the most progressive nations of the third world into the most backward - the entrepreneurs (large ones, as well as small ones owning one lakh rupee units) were taken out and they left the country for other places where their talents were more appreciated. You are doing the same thing.
b. Ignorance: These fast food places are owned by pakistani entrepreneurs, employ local youth and cater to the local population (contrary to your assertion - even if they catered to foreigners, that would be a contribution to badly needed jobs for the youth in Pakistan.). They provide a standard of cleanliness that is badly needed in Pakistan - the only properly maintained public toilets I have seen anywhere in Pakistan have been at McDonalds. Even military messes, airports and suchlikes dont come close, and about your dhabbas the less said the better.
The main affect you are having is to take these jobs away and to discourage the owners from investing in Pakistan. You think you are making even dent in the US economy with this? You obviously are ignorant of what the US economy is all about. Close down all the fast food restaurants in Pakistan, and it will still have essentially zero impact on the US economy. That economy is based on sound economic principles, on concepts of property rights, governance, and encouragement of free enterprise, and is far more resilient and extensive than you obviously know.
c. Hatred for the US: This brings me to my next point. You say your goal is to damage the US economy. I wont ask why since i know the mentality of people like you quite well - westerners may wonder why, but as a pakistani I know people like you. If today the US consulate were to tell you and your fellow boycotters to stand on one foot for a day and then come back the next day with some hope of getting a visa, you would forget your high and mighty talk and fall over one another to get in line to stand on one foot. (Once you have your visa, of course, you will be back to normal and blowing hot air about US foreign policy and what not). You will no doubt deny this, but it is a fact that even the worst US haters - the maulvis - send their children to the US (not to madrsassahs, not to Jeddah) for education.
My only regret is that individuals like you are not required to live in the shi!t that you have made in Pakistan. You create the mess, then run off to the US or UK at the first opportunity, leaving unemployed youth and future generations of Pakistanis to suffer the consequences of your actions.
#20 Posted by septran on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
aroma of different foods make my mouth to salivate.
#19 Posted by septran on May 15, 2003 6:50:28 am
aroma of different foods make my mouth to salivate.
#18 Posted by harimau on May 15, 2003 6:50:18 am
Ref PaagalInsaan #12
[Kindly join us in the noble Islamic cause of protest against American products. Here is the time-table:
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM Hunger Strike
1:00 PM to 2:30 PM Lunch Break
2:30 PM to 4:00 PM Hunger Strike]
Don`t tell me you are reading Tamil newspapers. This is precisely the schedule followed by Sangilikkaruppans when they decide to protest something or other through a hunger-strike. It gets better when it is a relay hunger-strike where one person hands over the position of the hunger-striker to the next after three hours!
[Kindly join us in the noble Islamic cause of protest against American products. Here is the time-table:
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM Hunger Strike
1:00 PM to 2:30 PM Lunch Break
2:30 PM to 4:00 PM Hunger Strike]
Don`t tell me you are reading Tamil newspapers. This is precisely the schedule followed by Sangilikkaruppans when they decide to protest something or other through a hunger-strike. It gets better when it is a relay hunger-strike where one person hands over the position of the hunger-striker to the next after three hours!
#17 Posted by Ras on May 15, 2003 6:50:18 am
Some of us boycott KFC/PH here in the US due to the food.
Now this article is certainly food for thought .....
Bun Kebab anyone?
Pakistani cuisine is the best so no great loss to avpid these outlets.
Ras
#16 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 14, 2003 11:30:19 pm
I do not think ``Boycots`` are such a good idea.
Economy of the entire world is inter-linked. In Boycots, everyone loses.
#15 Posted by bbabu on May 14, 2003 10:30:23 pm
Can anyone explain why any Pakistani would want to visit McDonald, KFC, Burger King in the first place ? The food is pathethic compared to sub-continental delicacies.
#14 Posted by Dilshad on May 14, 2003 10:30:23 pm
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#13 Posted by faridi on May 14, 2003 8:33:45 pm
#10 by dullabhatti on May 14, 2003 6:38pm PT
Thank you
Thank you
#12 Posted by PaagalInsaan on May 14, 2003 8:33:45 pm
(¯`·._.·[ Time Table For Anti-KFC Protests ]·._.·´¯)
Kindly join us in the noble Islamic cause of protest against American products. Here is the time-table:
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM Hunger Strike
1:00 PM to 2:30 PM Lunch Break
2:30 PM to 4:00 PM Hunger Strike
Note: Lumch Boxes with PEPSI will be served during the lunch break.
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
(¯`·._.·[ The Secret of Dhaba Food ]·._.·´¯)
Dhaba food is good! It has a taste of its own, Mr. Faridi, and ample research on what makes those Niharis, Siri Payes, Karahi and Kabaabs taste so unique has revealed the shocking secret. Here is the recipe:
1- Make Nihari/Karahi/Siri Paye
2- Add sweat (Musalman Mehnat-Kash ka Paseena Paak Hota Hai)
3- Display on Road
4- Let a few donkey-carts and tongas pass by
5- Let the animals poo on the road
6- Let some cars pass over the shit
7- Let the animal-dung fly into the dish
8- Serve while hot
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
(¯`·._.·[ Advice of the Millenium ]·._.·´¯)
Why do you waste a few hundred ruppees each time you go to an open-air restaurant to enjoy the environment and eat Nihari??
Advice: Spend Rs. 800 once, buy your own donkey and eat it fresh every day!
Kindly join us in the noble Islamic cause of protest against American products. Here is the time-table:
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM Hunger Strike
1:00 PM to 2:30 PM Lunch Break
2:30 PM to 4:00 PM Hunger Strike
Note: Lumch Boxes with PEPSI will be served during the lunch break.
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
(¯`·._.·[ The Secret of Dhaba Food ]·._.·´¯)
Dhaba food is good! It has a taste of its own, Mr. Faridi, and ample research on what makes those Niharis, Siri Payes, Karahi and Kabaabs taste so unique has revealed the shocking secret. Here is the recipe:
1- Make Nihari/Karahi/Siri Paye
2- Add sweat (Musalman Mehnat-Kash ka Paseena Paak Hota Hai)
3- Display on Road
4- Let a few donkey-carts and tongas pass by
5- Let the animals poo on the road
6- Let some cars pass over the shit
7- Let the animal-dung fly into the dish
8- Serve while hot
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
(¯`·._.·[ Advice of the Millenium ]·._.·´¯)
Why do you waste a few hundred ruppees each time you go to an open-air restaurant to enjoy the environment and eat Nihari??
Advice: Spend Rs. 800 once, buy your own donkey and eat it fresh every day!
#11 Posted by septran on May 14, 2003 8:33:45 pm
ahmadzai#1
wellsaid.boycot of mateial things are not going to turn up any thing.what about the mothers who are runing after girls having green cards.after all all other people are living in pakistan.bycotting the resturants,we shall be demangeing our people`s business.in future if all goes well,we shall start trade with india even then every one willrush to buy indian``s sari.
this nation has to do something concreate.
wellsaid.boycot of mateial things are not going to turn up any thing.what about the mothers who are runing after girls having green cards.after all all other people are living in pakistan.bycotting the resturants,we shall be demangeing our people`s business.in future if all goes well,we shall start trade with india even then every one willrush to buy indian``s sari.
this nation has to do something concreate.
#10 Posted by dullabhatti on May 14, 2003 6:38:01 pm
Faridi, it is lot of fun to go to open air eateries also know as dhabas and chhabRiwalas but only after you have dined in fine Italian, Mexican, French and what not restaurants in the west spending your hard earned dollars and pounds in the west. It is even more fun to ask people who have been hardly out of their city or even mohalla in Baghbanpura to control their taste buds and not get swayed by the flashy Mcdonalds and KFC and not to support the west by buying 99 cent burgers. Sure it is lot of fun...good to know that you are enjoying it.
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