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The Rumi of Kashmir: Mian Muhammad Bakhsh Qadiri (may his secret be sanctified!)

Asif Naqshbandi June 27, 2003

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#15 Posted by rozaiba on June 28, 2003 5:23:09 pm
Here are a couple of more couplets I recall:

Maali da kam paani daina, par par mashkaan paavay,
maalik da kam phal phul loana, laavay ya na laavay...

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Maali baagh dee raakhi kar da, phal kuchay houn ya pakay,
Mera peer mureedaan day sir tay rainda, jchuuttay houn ya sachay...
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#12 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on June 27, 2003 11:56:06 pm

The Punjabi Sufi poets expression of love is in the temporal sense - love with their beloved or other human beings.

The Mulla does not seem to be very popular in their thoughts - (Waris Shah)

But even here, the Islamists have tried to Islamize or religiousize it - interpreting that the love theme is based on the love of God - and so on.

Ferozesons has published small neat books on all these Sufi poets - giving history and even English translation. It is worth buying the whole set - particularly for those who are living abroad and their children are not aware of this classical Pujabi poetry.

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#11 Posted by Romair on June 27, 2003 3:46:19 pm
``past the local town of Dina which lies only 8 km from the famous fort of Rohtas``

Is it true that Dina (pronounced The na) was named by Alexander`s forces, after the Greek goddess of war, Athena?
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#10 Posted by rozaiba on June 27, 2003 12:36:56 pm
Thanks Naqshbandi. Here`s another verse that comes to mind...(am recalling these in between work:) - but i`ll need correcting here- Hazrat Mian Mohammad Bux uses the play of words - `ro` as in sugarcane juice and `ro` as in stay/live or is it `ruh` as in spirit?- correct me if I`m wrong:

Phas gaee jaan shikan day aandar, jeevain bailay vich gana
Ro aakhay, aj ro Muhammad, Jay ravain tay manaan

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#9 Posted by SameerJB on June 27, 2003 12:36:56 pm
Most of the poetry he composed is in central Panjabi - majhi dialect whereas the language spoken around the area of Dina is close to potowari. Any reason for it? I`ll leave it to the readers and interactors to make their own judgement although the reason is rather simple.

I`ll not put his poetry at par with Waris Shah`s poetry and the wisdom present therein. Just one verse of him is loaded with wisdom, metaphors and analogies. Unfortunately, I don`t remember the whole couplet. It goes something like:
Waris Shah haithaN rakh takya, kehRa kamm naeeN jo asaan hoya....-:))
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#8 Posted by G.GILANI on June 27, 2003 11:05:44 am
I HAVE VISITED THE SHRINE AND IT IS TRULY AMAZING
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#7 Posted by Naqshbandi on June 27, 2003 9:54:27 am
ps the myth that mian sahib was an `uneducated sufi` is not true as he has a number of academic works in farsi to his credit which deal with the technical aspects of sufism` i think he even has a book in farsi refuting wahabism too.
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#6 Posted by Naqshbandi on June 27, 2003 9:32:09 am
rozaiba wrote:

>Jay main vaikhaan amlaan valay, kuj nain mairay pallay,
>Jay vaikhaan tairee rehmat valaay, ballay ballay ballay!
>Asif, you make the first translation of these verses. thanks.

An attempt of the top of my head:

If I look at my deeds then I hav nothing to show!
If I see the vastness of Your mercy--bravo, bravo, !

(Though my deeds are worthless Your Mercy O LOrd is so vast that it dwarves my sins and makes them nothing to worry about!)

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Urstruly bhai? Kya huwa?
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#5 Posted by Urstruly on June 27, 2003 8:55:40 am

Has someone documented the effects of Cryptonite on ``Ullema-o-Mashaikh`` also? What about crosses, garlic, and silver? Hanuman bhagwan is known to have invented the principles of jet propulsion who used to fly setting his tail on fire. What about Ullema?Did they used to set their chughay and amama on fire?

God, 4 years at chowk, and its the first time I have felt sympathy for hamidm. As a matter of fact I am feeling like a mother who rushes towards her son who fell down from his bike hurting his knee. I am so sorry.

Naooz-o-billah-min-zalik.
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#4 Posted by Withnail on June 27, 2003 7:08:50 am
Beautiful.

I once had a chance to visit the shrine and indeed, it was entrancing.
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#3 Posted by rozaiba on June 27, 2003 7:08:50 am
One of my favorite verses is:

Kalli chad kay turr gaya mahi, paa gaya vich fikraan,
Paati leerr purani vaanguun, tung gaya vich kikraan...

It is said that Mian Muhammad Bux is one of the few `non educated` saints of history. But his teachings can match those of any. Truly remarkable verses!

Thanks for sharing it Asif.
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#2 Posted by rozaiba on June 27, 2003 7:08:50 am
another one:

Jay main vaikhaan amlaan valay, kuj nain mairay pallay,
Jay vaikhaan tairee rehmat valaay, ballay ballay ballay!

Asif, you make the first translation of these verses. thanks.
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#1 Posted by rsaxena on June 27, 2003 7:08:49 am
factual error: it is not `azad kashmir`...it is pakistan-occupied kashmir...got it?
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