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re: #92

{Globalization is a sort of arrangement among whitemen, an honor among theives, if you will, that prevents wealth from trickeling down (to brown folk). }


...then how did the singaporeans, koreans, and thais get their hands on some of that wealth?...the thais at least are quite brown...

...there are 2 ways to go through life...one is to always find blame (with the white man in this case), and the other is to accept some mistakes and fix them....

...the brown man`s mess after the british left is of his own creation...even letting the british in is his own fault....

re:#76 by dost-mittar
``You are right that Indians should extend greater support to their homegrown innovators. But I became somewhat skeptical in this area a few years ago when someone`s claim to find a cheap dirt alternative to petrol turned to be a hoax after it got wide publicity and praise in the Indian press.``
Oops! I remember that one. It was a guy from Tamil Nadu who claimed he could make Oil out of water or something. He failed miserably in controlled settings under the supervision of scientists from IIT, Madras. Karunanidhi, the vily politician that he is, gave it a casteist twist.
But the following looks more promising:
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=310738
Sridhar

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#87 by Studebaker on June 9, 2003 5:03pm PT

I actually know a small firm of lawyers who billed 60 lakhs last year by having two almost fresh LLBs with american law knowledge(their first)a supervisor monitoring only parttime to a US client.

dost mittar: I read your article and turned green with envy. I need to see rajasthan and jodhpur and jaisalmeer. hell, i did not even see delhi for more than a day of driving around. Bangalore and all are OK I suppose in terms of pointing the direction to the new India etc. But if you`ve seen one computer screen you`ve seen them all. And I am not too thrilled by Pokhran, unless I seek that healthy glow of the well radiated skin. But a train ride in the countryside in India would be cool. One day...

#86 by rsaxena on June 9, 2003 4:18pm PT

incidently I sold have got a rug 2/3 feet for $300 value and I have got an offer for it for $500
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take a look.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289962931&congratulation_page=Y

Junk bidri work ie silver inlay in metal typicaly costs about 15 thousand for a average kind of piece.


infosys has about 12 thouand - 14 thousand employees after we have 500 infosys we will sitll have only a few lakh we probablyh add 12 to 14 thousand people every day so plenty of people around to make rugs.


remember that even the big Mac is a peice of junk so is coke. Plenty of money in that.

#90 by hari on June 9, 2003 6:10pm PT

you dont say why caste based resrvation is ripe for misuse and not economic based reservation is?

Even today as many people have admitted here on this fourm that the southie brahmin is very prevalent in the software industry in India. so what exactly are you cribbing about.

The dalits have borne worse and for centuries in just a few decades you have started cribbing that to of such a small favour in just one sphere of life.
Argeed reservation is not a efficient method but right now it is the only one availabe to the dalits

#61 Dost-Mitter:

I know the pain of the South Indian brahmins. Some folks assume the worse of them and it has hurt us terribly.

For instance, my cousin sister, scored 97.5% in Physics, Chemistry and Math in Madras back in late 70s. The Tamil Nadu education system couldn`t find a medical seat for her because she was brahmin. She ended up going Literature in Coimbatore even though she wanted to be a doctor badly to really help the needy. I got a distinction in physics and the most I could do was getting admission to BITS, Pilani in MS chemistry even though I wanted engineering.

My sister-in-law came from a poor family in Kerala. Her parents couldn`t afford to school her. She did correspondence and got gold medal with state rank. After they came over to LA, both my nieces are going to medical school with full scholarship in UCLA. These kids turned down John-Hopkins scholarship.

Good for them. I think education and opportunity should be economic based and not caste based. Caste based opportunity is ripe with corruption.

One of school class-mates, son of a very, very, very rich industrialist paid a local panchayat adminstration to get a sch caste/sch tribe classification to get admission to a good college. Was it worth it eventually? the answer is NO. Eventually, he inherited his father`s empire and became a CEO. But in the process took an opportunity away from another needy student.

One more thing, Dost-Mitter:

Key incredients for the south-indian brahminical mind:

No garlic, no onion. My wife doesn`t cook with garlic. I take onions.
My mother won`t touch garlic, onions. I asked my grand-ma when she was alive; She said something to the effect, that eating these make you aggresive and not think properly because anger causes mind not to think rationally. I notice that north-indians by nature tend to be very aggressive, not necessarily assertive.

Yogurt rice-yes, Okra(ladies finger) yes for analytical ability.

Ofcourse, no meat/eggs/chicken.

All these could be grand-ma`s tale. so take this for what its worth.

One more thing:
If possible, try watching Zee TV drama and South Indian(Sun) TV available here in US.

You will see more ``parties`` thrown in Zee TV serials, let us go party this, party there; You will see complete absence of party-scene in tamil TV drama from south. It makes us, southies wonder if north is all about show and no substance. I don`t know about Andhra or Karnataka.

rsaxena # 86

....better to focus on industries where some barriers to entry can be built and sustained over longer periods of time...sooner or later the wealth will trickle down...

Whiteman foresaw that and made sure that such barriers are never set up; for that he invented the devil`s ultimate device called globalisation. Globalization is a sort of arrangement among whitemen, an honor among theives, if you will, that prevents wealth from trickeling down (to brown folk).

rsaxena, a time has finally come in the history of Capitalism that every one is left with only one choice - either you are with them or against them - what you are trying to say is a severe conflict of interest; if you think deep.

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