The Scandal of Fake and Madrassa Degrees
Q Isa Daudpota June 15, 2003
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#23 Posted by Ras on June 19, 2003 7:57:01 am
QID wrote:
``Bottom line: Fire the fake university degree holders and send the madrassa qualified parliamentarians home.``
All at once ``AaaMeeen``.
Ras
#22 Posted by PaagalInsaan on June 18, 2003 7:44:03 pm
Naqshbandi:
1- I did not say the military should take over by force. I said a technocratic government should put the military, the agencies and the bureaucracy back into their place by force.
2- What is a `western style` degree? I really need to know that.
3- If the MMA can speak better English than Musharraf, why did the Finance Minister of NWFP during his budget speech replace GST (General Sales Tax) with GTS (Government Transport Service)?
#21 Posted by bbabu on June 18, 2003 8:56:33 am
Thanks for posting the Madrasas syllabus
Why learn Indian history until 1947 ? Are people embarassed about post-1947 history ?
Other than learning Arabic language the syllabus is exactly what I thought - garbage.
#20 Posted by Naqshbandi on June 17, 2003 10:11:11 pm
paagal insaan--your last post about letting the military take care of things `by force` and insulting most of the 140 million pakistanis who are not `educated` (by which of course u mean they haven`t got a western style degree from one of the mediocre unis in pakistan) nd therefore not fit to choose their leader could have come right out of the military dictators handbook! pah!
the lengths ppl will go to stop those they don`t like who were democratically voted in from wielding power!
it almost makes one wish for a revolution---
the lengths ppl will go to stop those they don`t like who were democratically voted in from wielding power!
it almost makes one wish for a revolution---
#19 Posted by Romair on June 17, 2003 10:11:11 pm
Naqshbandi #8: Thanks for the info.
That is quite a syllabus. Is that eight years after 12th grade? If that is the case, then one would have to accept that it should be considered equivalent to a B.A in Pakistan. And the election rules don`t specify that the BA has to be in any specific category. It would be equivalent to at least a BA in Islamiat or Arabic.
There are a few questions, however:
- Why don`t the madrassas get themselves officially evaluated by the University Grants Commission type organizations. Otherwise, anyone could attend any madrassa, regardless of syllabus.
- Why hasn`t madrassa education evolved beyond the middle ages, as you have suggested? Why not incorporate a full syllabus of science and arts, rather than just Arabic and religion?
- How can someone who gets a degree in fifteenth century studies, govern in the present day? He/she would obviously be totally out of touch with what is going on in the 21st century, much less have the skills to govern over it.
- And why in the world should the interpretation of Islam in our present-day life, be handed over to individuals who have received education which is still based on books from ages ago? How can someone interpret Islam as a way of life for the 21st century, when all they know is Islam, and have no education on the 21st century? Isn`t that a dangerous combination for both Pakistan and for Islam as a religion?
That is quite a syllabus. Is that eight years after 12th grade? If that is the case, then one would have to accept that it should be considered equivalent to a B.A in Pakistan. And the election rules don`t specify that the BA has to be in any specific category. It would be equivalent to at least a BA in Islamiat or Arabic.
There are a few questions, however:
- Why don`t the madrassas get themselves officially evaluated by the University Grants Commission type organizations. Otherwise, anyone could attend any madrassa, regardless of syllabus.
- Why hasn`t madrassa education evolved beyond the middle ages, as you have suggested? Why not incorporate a full syllabus of science and arts, rather than just Arabic and religion?
- How can someone who gets a degree in fifteenth century studies, govern in the present day? He/she would obviously be totally out of touch with what is going on in the 21st century, much less have the skills to govern over it.
- And why in the world should the interpretation of Islam in our present-day life, be handed over to individuals who have received education which is still based on books from ages ago? How can someone interpret Islam as a way of life for the 21st century, when all they know is Islam, and have no education on the 21st century? Isn`t that a dangerous combination for both Pakistan and for Islam as a religion?
#18 Posted by PaagalInsaan on June 17, 2003 2:46:35 pm
Dear Mr. Daudpota,
I really think the MMA should not have been allowed to compete the elections in the first place, but its never too late to learn. It would be stupid to let them carry on. What theyre doing, especially the Hasaba act they plan to implement, is against the very philosophy of democracy, so letting them carry on with their BS is more dangerousto democracy then anything else. The perfect way this could be brought about is, that the court disqualifies all MMA members, and when they protest, their leaders be charged with contempt of court and punished.
I may sound extremist but I think the only way to put everyone back in their place is by use of force, by a non-elected technocratic government. As for the illiterate masses, they`re always wrong. The public opinion is always ridiculous. The educated should not waste heir time peaching masses, because the illiterate masses will always listen to those who exploit their ethnic or religion feelings. They should come directly into power. It is not a bad idea to filter the public opinion by bringing in things like the graduate condition. Infact this condition should also be applied to the voters. This will eliminate the afghan refugees voting for molvis, and the peasants voting for their landlords.
I know a farmer`s or a labourer`s son does not have the opportunity to be educated. you may ask what wrong has he done to be denid of the right to rule or the right to vote? My answer is, he has done nothing wrong, but then, what wrong has Pakistan done, to be ruled by illiterate incapable people? Until educated people are in power, there is no way Pakistan will become good enough to provide equal educational opportunities to the sons of the poor. And until that happens, the rights of 14 crore people collectively are more important that those of single persons.
I really think the MMA should not have been allowed to compete the elections in the first place, but its never too late to learn. It would be stupid to let them carry on. What theyre doing, especially the Hasaba act they plan to implement, is against the very philosophy of democracy, so letting them carry on with their BS is more dangerousto democracy then anything else. The perfect way this could be brought about is, that the court disqualifies all MMA members, and when they protest, their leaders be charged with contempt of court and punished.
I may sound extremist but I think the only way to put everyone back in their place is by use of force, by a non-elected technocratic government. As for the illiterate masses, they`re always wrong. The public opinion is always ridiculous. The educated should not waste heir time peaching masses, because the illiterate masses will always listen to those who exploit their ethnic or religion feelings. They should come directly into power. It is not a bad idea to filter the public opinion by bringing in things like the graduate condition. Infact this condition should also be applied to the voters. This will eliminate the afghan refugees voting for molvis, and the peasants voting for their landlords.
I know a farmer`s or a labourer`s son does not have the opportunity to be educated. you may ask what wrong has he done to be denid of the right to rule or the right to vote? My answer is, he has done nothing wrong, but then, what wrong has Pakistan done, to be ruled by illiterate incapable people? Until educated people are in power, there is no way Pakistan will become good enough to provide equal educational opportunities to the sons of the poor. And until that happens, the rights of 14 crore people collectively are more important that those of single persons.
#17 Posted by PaagalInsaan on June 17, 2003 1:46:07 pm
#14 by Naqshbandi on June 16, 2003 6:09pm PT
all the leaders of the MMA speak fluent English much better than Musharraf speaks!
dil pe mat le yaar! dil pe mat lay!!
all the leaders of the MMA speak fluent English much better than Musharraf speaks!
dil pe mat le yaar! dil pe mat lay!!
#16 Posted by jay on June 17, 2003 8:27:04 am
``I come from a bureaucratic family, and I can tell you, relax!!! The bureaucrats of Pakistan will run rings around the mullah and in the end, the mullah will end up as being ineffective. You have no idea how shrewd are the bureaucrats``
In the above post the great expert is claiming familial links for his inside information. The beaurocracy has the power, not the military. Military that control all of the major organisations in pakistan, wapda, corflakes mill, cement factories, ordenenca factories and now the largets farmland is more powerful than the fragmented beurocracy of peone and clerks. Give us a break, and learn the first lesson, personal experience at best provides anecdotal info, to be substantiated by objective facts. Here is a scholar basing all of his info on what a cia man told in a pub, the boasting of GI joe and now the people he knew in pak beaurocracy.
Military that controls most aspects of pakistan, accounts for more than 50 percent of pak budget has little influence compared to the babus. Eagerness to whitewash has started scraping the bottom of the barrel.
In the above post the great expert is claiming familial links for his inside information. The beaurocracy has the power, not the military. Military that control all of the major organisations in pakistan, wapda, corflakes mill, cement factories, ordenenca factories and now the largets farmland is more powerful than the fragmented beurocracy of peone and clerks. Give us a break, and learn the first lesson, personal experience at best provides anecdotal info, to be substantiated by objective facts. Here is a scholar basing all of his info on what a cia man told in a pub, the boasting of GI joe and now the people he knew in pak beaurocracy.
Military that controls most aspects of pakistan, accounts for more than 50 percent of pak budget has little influence compared to the babus. Eagerness to whitewash has started scraping the bottom of the barrel.
#15 Posted by daudpota on June 16, 2003 10:45:33 pm
The discussion on the syllabus used in the madrassas is most enlightening. It is also interesting to hear about what others think about the `real` wielders of power in Pakistan.
Questions remain:
1. Whether the clerics who have come to power ought to be ``allowed`` to complete their term in parliament. This despite the fact that they did so by getting their ``inadequate`` degrees recognized through unreasonable pressure on the government.
2. When is a unfairly elected government fair game for dismantling?
3. And who is to do it, and how?
4. How is the bureaucracy, the agencies, religious groups/parties, orthodox political parties and the military to be put in their ``right`` places, so they occupy a legitimate position in the country, unable to disturb a democratic government?
5. What does democracy mean in a society with so little literacy (and unfair licences to education and knowledge)?
It seems to me that without a strong and fair judiciary no lasting reform will be possible - justice seems to be the foundation of all societal change. Are there ways in which common people can work towards making our judiciary such?
Without being able to make a difference on a national scale in the short term, it seems to me that we ought to try and ensure fairplay in our neighborhoods and the institutions that we are directly involved in - that`s getting justice to work in our own lives!
Isa Daudpota
10:25 am PST, 17 June 2003
Questions remain:
1. Whether the clerics who have come to power ought to be ``allowed`` to complete their term in parliament. This despite the fact that they did so by getting their ``inadequate`` degrees recognized through unreasonable pressure on the government.
2. When is a unfairly elected government fair game for dismantling?
3. And who is to do it, and how?
4. How is the bureaucracy, the agencies, religious groups/parties, orthodox political parties and the military to be put in their ``right`` places, so they occupy a legitimate position in the country, unable to disturb a democratic government?
5. What does democracy mean in a society with so little literacy (and unfair licences to education and knowledge)?
It seems to me that without a strong and fair judiciary no lasting reform will be possible - justice seems to be the foundation of all societal change. Are there ways in which common people can work towards making our judiciary such?
Without being able to make a difference on a national scale in the short term, it seems to me that we ought to try and ensure fairplay in our neighborhoods and the institutions that we are directly involved in - that`s getting justice to work in our own lives!
Isa Daudpota
10:25 am PST, 17 June 2003
#14 Posted by Naqshbandi on June 16, 2003 6:09:33 pm
all the leaders of the MMA speak fluent English much better than Musharraf speaks!
#13 Posted by PaagalInsaan on June 16, 2003 4:20:20 pm
--==[ Dars e Nizamia ]==--
Brief History and Philosophy:
Dars e Nizamia, originally developed by Mullah Nizamuddin (1748) was intended to create professional Molvis that could work for the Government. It was intended to give preference tomaqulaat on manqulaat unlike its competitor Dars e Rahimia of Shah Waliullah`s school. This made it so popular that for a hundred years it was taught without any change, and is still being taught in the Madrassas of India and Pakistan with minor changes.
Course Analysis:
Naqshbandi has given the course outline for the Madrassa. Although 200 years ago, it was `progressive` to prefer philosophy and logic over manqulaat, the overall meaning of philosophy and logic have changed completely over two centures.
1- The Dars totally ignores English, which makes the molvis totally incapable of staying up to date witn the progress of modern thought in philosophy and logic, it makes them unable to read the international public opinion, incapable of keeping themselves abreast of the researches in science, and renders them useless when it comes to preaching internationally or to counter any philosophical or logical threats to Islam.
2- While the teaching of philosophy was a highly progressive act in a Dars designed more than two centuries ago, but modern philosophy can NOT be understood without sound concepts of the science of physics. Teaching obsolete philosophy does more bad than good, and the molvis end up being totally unaware of what the world is about.
3. It is impossible to get a cmplete grasp on the subject of Logics, without a detailed study of mathematics. Mathematics have been given no importance whatsoever in the Dars.
Logics and Philosophy today are based on concrete rules of science, which the molvi oday is completely unaware of. For him theology, philosophy and logics are supernatural religious experiences. Being completely illiterate in English, he is left with no opportunity to make up for this lack of knowledge.
Conclusion:
Since the dars was designed to produce government officials, and until recently molvis had been totally rejected by the masses inelections, they were out there with nothng to do with their degrees. They are usually not educated enough to understand the kind of challenges Islam faces in the modern world. The only choice they were left with, was to use religon to earn money. Tens of sects were made and thousands of mosques were constructed to find jobs for these molvis. This exploitation of religious feelings and the use of religous theoroms for material gains eventually led to the exploitation for political and social gains, which is the biggest problem faced by the pakistani society today.
Brief History and Philosophy:
Dars e Nizamia, originally developed by Mullah Nizamuddin (1748) was intended to create professional Molvis that could work for the Government. It was intended to give preference tomaqulaat on manqulaat unlike its competitor Dars e Rahimia of Shah Waliullah`s school. This made it so popular that for a hundred years it was taught without any change, and is still being taught in the Madrassas of India and Pakistan with minor changes.
Course Analysis:
Naqshbandi has given the course outline for the Madrassa. Although 200 years ago, it was `progressive` to prefer philosophy and logic over manqulaat, the overall meaning of philosophy and logic have changed completely over two centures.
1- The Dars totally ignores English, which makes the molvis totally incapable of staying up to date witn the progress of modern thought in philosophy and logic, it makes them unable to read the international public opinion, incapable of keeping themselves abreast of the researches in science, and renders them useless when it comes to preaching internationally or to counter any philosophical or logical threats to Islam.
2- While the teaching of philosophy was a highly progressive act in a Dars designed more than two centuries ago, but modern philosophy can NOT be understood without sound concepts of the science of physics. Teaching obsolete philosophy does more bad than good, and the molvis end up being totally unaware of what the world is about.
3. It is impossible to get a cmplete grasp on the subject of Logics, without a detailed study of mathematics. Mathematics have been given no importance whatsoever in the Dars.
Logics and Philosophy today are based on concrete rules of science, which the molvi oday is completely unaware of. For him theology, philosophy and logics are supernatural religious experiences. Being completely illiterate in English, he is left with no opportunity to make up for this lack of knowledge.
Conclusion:
Since the dars was designed to produce government officials, and until recently molvis had been totally rejected by the masses inelections, they were out there with nothng to do with their degrees. They are usually not educated enough to understand the kind of challenges Islam faces in the modern world. The only choice they were left with, was to use religon to earn money. Tens of sects were made and thousands of mosques were constructed to find jobs for these molvis. This exploitation of religious feelings and the use of religous theoroms for material gains eventually led to the exploitation for political and social gains, which is the biggest problem faced by the pakistani society today.
#12 Posted by PaagalInsaan on June 16, 2003 2:04:32 pm
--==[ The Real Power in Pakistan ]==--
Let me make this clear, the real power in Pakistan is niether the civil nor military bureaucracy, I come from a military family and let me make this clear, the real power in Pakistan are the agencies. Despite all efforts Musharraf and the military bureaucracy have failed to control the ISI, who`s objectives have, until recently, been the establishment of an `Islamic` state in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia. The pressures that Musharraf bowed to, about the degrees issue, was NOT political pressure since he never ever bows to it, it was pressure from the agencies that literally hold the country hijacked. After the abolition of the `Islamic state` in the Afghanistan, these agnecies decided to practice their ideas in the NWFP.
Let me make this clear, the real power in Pakistan is niether the civil nor military bureaucracy, I come from a military family and let me make this clear, the real power in Pakistan are the agencies. Despite all efforts Musharraf and the military bureaucracy have failed to control the ISI, who`s objectives have, until recently, been the establishment of an `Islamic` state in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia. The pressures that Musharraf bowed to, about the degrees issue, was NOT political pressure since he never ever bows to it, it was pressure from the agencies that literally hold the country hijacked. After the abolition of the `Islamic state` in the Afghanistan, these agnecies decided to practice their ideas in the NWFP.
#11 Posted by ferozk on June 16, 2003 9:03:03 am
re: sameerjb # 3
A point of clarification.
The issue of madrassa degrees was okayed by the Election Commission of Pakistan as a subsitute for a BA/BSc. degree. Musharraf`s mea culpa was that he argued for the equation as being reasonable. NRB, which was responsible for the elections in October 2002, after the verdict of the ECP agreed to the amended interpretation.
Originally, BA/BSc. degree were the norm, but NRB and Musharraf bowed to political pressure, press reactions and gave in to the change.
Secondly; Sharia bill`s importance has been blown out of proportion. The government of Pakistan will never subordinate its interests to the implementation of sharia, even if Musharraf supports it! The real power in Pakistan in ruling Pakistan is not the army, but the bureaucracy and the bureaucracy is secular to the boot! The bureaucracy in Pakistan has its own insitutional interests and those interests demand that they not be jeapordized by the legalities of sharia.
I come from a bureaucratic family, and I can tell you, relax!!! The bureaucrats of Pakistan will run rings around the mullah and in the end, the mullah will end up as being ineffective. You have no idea how shrewd are the bureaucrats in Pakistan. Pakistan is nearly 57 years old. The military has ruled Pakistan for nearly 22 years and the politicans for the reminder of the balance. Even though power has shifted from the politicans to the military and back again, the one constant theme in the power politics of Pakistan has been the bureaucracy; it was always there helping rule the nation, despite who ever was in power!
Do you really think that BB, NS or PM can rule Pakistan without the cooperation of the bureaucracy of Pakistan????????????? No one can rule Pakistan without the cooperation of the bureaucracy in Pakistan! LOL
The best way to destory the power of the mulvi in Pakistan to prove him as incapable and not by making a martyr out of him! Never make a martyr out of your political opponents, because you can defeat the person, but you cannot defeat his/her memory!!!!
Ciao
A point of clarification.
The issue of madrassa degrees was okayed by the Election Commission of Pakistan as a subsitute for a BA/BSc. degree. Musharraf`s mea culpa was that he argued for the equation as being reasonable. NRB, which was responsible for the elections in October 2002, after the verdict of the ECP agreed to the amended interpretation.
Originally, BA/BSc. degree were the norm, but NRB and Musharraf bowed to political pressure, press reactions and gave in to the change.
Secondly; Sharia bill`s importance has been blown out of proportion. The government of Pakistan will never subordinate its interests to the implementation of sharia, even if Musharraf supports it! The real power in Pakistan in ruling Pakistan is not the army, but the bureaucracy and the bureaucracy is secular to the boot! The bureaucracy in Pakistan has its own insitutional interests and those interests demand that they not be jeapordized by the legalities of sharia.
I come from a bureaucratic family, and I can tell you, relax!!! The bureaucrats of Pakistan will run rings around the mullah and in the end, the mullah will end up as being ineffective. You have no idea how shrewd are the bureaucrats in Pakistan. Pakistan is nearly 57 years old. The military has ruled Pakistan for nearly 22 years and the politicans for the reminder of the balance. Even though power has shifted from the politicans to the military and back again, the one constant theme in the power politics of Pakistan has been the bureaucracy; it was always there helping rule the nation, despite who ever was in power!
Do you really think that BB, NS or PM can rule Pakistan without the cooperation of the bureaucracy of Pakistan????????????? No one can rule Pakistan without the cooperation of the bureaucracy in Pakistan! LOL
The best way to destory the power of the mulvi in Pakistan to prove him as incapable and not by making a martyr out of him! Never make a martyr out of your political opponents, because you can defeat the person, but you cannot defeat his/her memory!!!!
Ciao
#10 Posted by ferozk on June 16, 2003 8:55:39 am
re: Naqshbandi # 8
The problem is that what a typical Dars e Nizami teaches has no economic viability. What jobs are you going to get, with memorization of Islamic jurisprudence? Learning Arabic? Arabic is not the lingua franca of the world and it will not get you even a half decent job as a teacher in a third rate government school in Pakistan. How are the graduates of the typical Dars e Nizami supposed to exist? The only viable employable future they have is to join a jehad and become nililistic in out looks.
This syllabus is rejectionist and mediveal and the gradutes it will produce will have no skills to offer, because the majority of the instructional methodology is based on memorization and memorization does not lend to, or encourages abstract problem solving skills.
You are basically creating lemmings and not citizens capable of understanding the problems of the society and solving them.
Ciao
The problem is that what a typical Dars e Nizami teaches has no economic viability. What jobs are you going to get, with memorization of Islamic jurisprudence? Learning Arabic? Arabic is not the lingua franca of the world and it will not get you even a half decent job as a teacher in a third rate government school in Pakistan. How are the graduates of the typical Dars e Nizami supposed to exist? The only viable employable future they have is to join a jehad and become nililistic in out looks.
This syllabus is rejectionist and mediveal and the gradutes it will produce will have no skills to offer, because the majority of the instructional methodology is based on memorization and memorization does not lend to, or encourages abstract problem solving skills.
You are basically creating lemmings and not citizens capable of understanding the problems of the society and solving them.
Ciao
#9 Posted by Naqshbandi on June 16, 2003 6:30:01 am
Romair: Here is the 8 year syllabus for the typical Dars e Nizami. (This is the one taught at Deoband but that taught in the Ahle Sunnat madrassahs is almost identical). This is from their website:
FIRST YEAR
Subject (top line)
Books (text books for above subject)
Biography of Prophet (syrat)
Syrat-e-Khatimul Anbiya (By: Mufti Md. Shafi)
Conjugation-Grammar (Sarf)
Arabic Primer; Mizanus-Sarf and Munsha`ib
(complete); Panj Ganj (complete
Syntax (Nahv
Memorizing of Nahv-e-Mir (complete); Sharh-e- Mi`ata A`mil (complete).
Arabic Literature
Miftahul Arabia Part 1,2, & Alqira`atul Waziha (1)
Logic
Taiseer al-Mantiq
Chirography
(Khush-navisi)
Correct writing and Dictation
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation in the first quarter of the Para-e-Amm
SECOND YEAR
Subject
Books
Conjugation-Grammar (Sarf)
Ilmus Segha & Fusool-e-Akbari
Syntax (Nahv
Hidaytun Nahv (complete) & Kafiya (chapter: Fail & Harf)
Arabic Literature
Alqira`atul Waziha (2) & Nafhatul Adab
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Noorul Izah & Qudoori (To Haj chapter)
Logic
A`san Mantiq & Mirqat
Chirography (Khush-navisi)
Correct writing and Dictation
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Jamalul Qra`an & Exercise in cant illation of the Para-e-Amm
THIRD YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From Sura-e-Qaf to end)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Qudoori (From Kitabul Boyoo to end)
Syntax (Nahv)
Sharah Shuzuruz Zahab (complete)
Arabic Literature
Nafhatul Arab & Alqira`tul Waziha (3)
Hadith
Mishkatul A`thar
Logic
Shrah Tahzeeb (complete)
Islami Akhlaque
Talimul Muta`allim
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External study
Tareekh Millat (Khilafat-e-Rashida)
FOURTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From Sura-e-Yousuf to Qaf)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Sharah Wiqayah (Part 1 coml. & part 2 up to Itaque)
Principles of Jurisprudence
Tasheelul Usool Arabi & Usoolus Shasi
Rhetorics
Darusul Balaghah (complete)
Hadith
Alfiyatul Hadith
Logic
Qutbi (complete)
History
Khilafat-e-Bani Umayya, Abbasiya, Turkiya (By: zamullah Shahabi)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
Modern Sciences
Sciences of Madaniyyat, Geography of the Arab Peninsula and other Islamic countries.
FIFTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From beginning up to Sura-e-Hood)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Hidaya Part 1 (complete)
Principles of Jurisprudence
Noorul Anwar up to Sunnah & Matan Alminar ( form Kitabus Sunnah up to end)
Rhetorics
Mukhtasarul Ma`ani 1st subject & Talkhisul Miftah (2nd & 3rd Subject)
Beliefs (Aqa`id)
Aqidatut Tahavi
Logic
Sullamul Uloom (up to subject of Shartiyat)
Arabic Literature
Muqamat ( up to 15 Muqama)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External study
History of Indians Kings (up to 1947 A.D.)
SIXTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Tafsir
Tafsir Jalalayn (complete)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Hidaya Part 2 (complete with Itaque subject)
Principles of Tafsir & Jurisprudence
Alfauzul Kabeer & Husamy (complete)
Arabic Literature
Deevan-e-Mutanabbi (appointed chapter) & Deewan-e-Himasa (Babul Adab)
Philosophy
Mabadiul Falsafa & Mabazi (Complete)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
Study of Sirat
Asahhus Siyer
SEVENTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Hadith
Mishkat, Sharah Nukhba & Muqadma Shaikh Abdul-Haque
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh
Hidaya Part 3/4
Aqa`ed
Shrah Aqa`ed
Fra`iz
Sirajy
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External Study
Al-Mazahibul Islamia Urdu (Shaikh Abu Zahra )
EIGHTH YEAR (Daura-e-Hadith)
Subject
Books
Hadith
Bukhari Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Muslim Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Tirmizi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Abu Da`ud Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Nasa`i Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Ibn-e-Maja Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Tahavi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Shama`il Tirmizi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Mu`atta Imam Malik (Complete)
Hadith
Mu`atta Imam Mohammad (Complete)
External
Tajvid
Note: After the successful completion of this 8-year course of the Arabic classes the student becomes eligible for receiving the graduate degree (Sanad-e-Faraghat) of Darul Uloom.
****
This is the BASIC course. After this a person can call himself a ``maulvi``. If someone has NOT completed this course he cannot strictly be considered a maulvi. It should be understood that the top ulama study much more than this. This is the bachelor`s degree if you like. The top ulama will have studied for double the time..eg Noorani sahib.
http://members.tripod.com/~wim_canada/noorani.html
the above link gives a brief summary of the Maulana`s qualifications.
FIRST YEAR
Subject (top line)
Books (text books for above subject)
Biography of Prophet (syrat)
Syrat-e-Khatimul Anbiya (By: Mufti Md. Shafi)
Conjugation-Grammar (Sarf)
Arabic Primer; Mizanus-Sarf and Munsha`ib
(complete); Panj Ganj (complete
Syntax (Nahv
Memorizing of Nahv-e-Mir (complete); Sharh-e- Mi`ata A`mil (complete).
Arabic Literature
Miftahul Arabia Part 1,2, & Alqira`atul Waziha (1)
Logic
Taiseer al-Mantiq
Chirography
(Khush-navisi)
Correct writing and Dictation
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation in the first quarter of the Para-e-Amm
SECOND YEAR
Subject
Books
Conjugation-Grammar (Sarf)
Ilmus Segha & Fusool-e-Akbari
Syntax (Nahv
Hidaytun Nahv (complete) & Kafiya (chapter: Fail & Harf)
Arabic Literature
Alqira`atul Waziha (2) & Nafhatul Adab
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Noorul Izah & Qudoori (To Haj chapter)
Logic
A`san Mantiq & Mirqat
Chirography (Khush-navisi)
Correct writing and Dictation
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Jamalul Qra`an & Exercise in cant illation of the Para-e-Amm
THIRD YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From Sura-e-Qaf to end)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Qudoori (From Kitabul Boyoo to end)
Syntax (Nahv)
Sharah Shuzuruz Zahab (complete)
Arabic Literature
Nafhatul Arab & Alqira`tul Waziha (3)
Hadith
Mishkatul A`thar
Logic
Shrah Tahzeeb (complete)
Islami Akhlaque
Talimul Muta`allim
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External study
Tareekh Millat (Khilafat-e-Rashida)
FOURTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From Sura-e-Yousuf to Qaf)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Sharah Wiqayah (Part 1 coml. & part 2 up to Itaque)
Principles of Jurisprudence
Tasheelul Usool Arabi & Usoolus Shasi
Rhetorics
Darusul Balaghah (complete)
Hadith
Alfiyatul Hadith
Logic
Qutbi (complete)
History
Khilafat-e-Bani Umayya, Abbasiya, Turkiya (By: zamullah Shahabi)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
Modern Sciences
Sciences of Madaniyyat, Geography of the Arab Peninsula and other Islamic countries.
FIFTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Quranic Exegesis
Tarjumatul Quran (From beginning up to Sura-e-Hood)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Hidaya Part 1 (complete)
Principles of Jurisprudence
Noorul Anwar up to Sunnah & Matan Alminar ( form Kitabus Sunnah up to end)
Rhetorics
Mukhtasarul Ma`ani 1st subject & Talkhisul Miftah (2nd & 3rd Subject)
Beliefs (Aqa`id)
Aqidatut Tahavi
Logic
Sullamul Uloom (up to subject of Shartiyat)
Arabic Literature
Muqamat ( up to 15 Muqama)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External study
History of Indians Kings (up to 1947 A.D.)
SIXTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Tafsir
Tafsir Jalalayn (complete)
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh)
Hidaya Part 2 (complete with Itaque subject)
Principles of Tafsir & Jurisprudence
Alfauzul Kabeer & Husamy (complete)
Arabic Literature
Deevan-e-Mutanabbi (appointed chapter) & Deewan-e-Himasa (Babul Adab)
Philosophy
Mabadiul Falsafa & Mabazi (Complete)
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
Study of Sirat
Asahhus Siyer
SEVENTH YEAR
Subject
Books
Hadith
Mishkat, Sharah Nukhba & Muqadma Shaikh Abdul-Haque
Jurisprudence: (Fiqh
Hidaya Part 3/4
Aqa`ed
Shrah Aqa`ed
Fra`iz
Sirajy
Cantillation: (Tajvid)
Exercise in cant illation of the five Para
External Study
Al-Mazahibul Islamia Urdu (Shaikh Abu Zahra )
EIGHTH YEAR (Daura-e-Hadith)
Subject
Books
Hadith
Bukhari Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Muslim Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Tirmizi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Abu Da`ud Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Nasa`i Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Ibn-e-Maja Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Tahavi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Shama`il Tirmizi Sharif (Complete)
Hadith
Mu`atta Imam Malik (Complete)
Hadith
Mu`atta Imam Mohammad (Complete)
External
Tajvid
Note: After the successful completion of this 8-year course of the Arabic classes the student becomes eligible for receiving the graduate degree (Sanad-e-Faraghat) of Darul Uloom.
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This is the BASIC course. After this a person can call himself a ``maulvi``. If someone has NOT completed this course he cannot strictly be considered a maulvi. It should be understood that the top ulama study much more than this. This is the bachelor`s degree if you like. The top ulama will have studied for double the time..eg Noorani sahib.
http://members.tripod.com/~wim_canada/noorani.html
the above link gives a brief summary of the Maulana`s qualifications.
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