Bari Imam’s Republic of Peeristan

hamidm #23

i think the burning had more to do with
the gender
than with being a spiritual offender.

happened in europe and the US
folks claimed to have been bewitched
but on the wizards
no one snitched

now you`ll understand
why the spiritual offender
is not reduced to tinder
after he
every pir of of the right gender

hamidm #23 IGNORE EARLIER VERSION OF MY POEM IN POST BELOW.

i think the burning had more to do with
the crime of ``wrong gender``
not with that of
``spiritual offender:.

happened in europe and at Salem
folks were bewitched
but on being bewizarded
no one snitched

now you`ll understan`
why in pakistan
the spiritual offender
is not reduced to tinder
every pir after all
is of the right gender

hala malik

your talk of bidaah reeks of wahabi extremism. the piris may be an illiterate and misguided bunch, but at least they are tolerant those who deviate from their version of islam (you never hear them criticizing shias for attending majalis or juloos). a lesson to be learnt here, my friend.

live and let live.

Good point by malangi.

The role of gurus, mullas, sufis and pirs in the west has been taken over by their media, hollywood, and porn websites. Instead of performing all the services as a single institution, they`ve departmentalised the human psychological and physiological needs.

a bit more on the sex connection:

There is a pir in hira-mundi called pir kaki-taar. He conducts what he calls a roohani-mujra, in which the dance performed by his courtesan-followers produces a mystical effect on the viewers (or so he claims). Some years ago this ``roohani`` mehfil, being conducted in a 5-star hotel in Islamabad, was busted by the police and made headlines the next day. Apparently some top bureaucrats were found in a mystical trance in that same gathering. He again made headline a few years later when a similar mehfil was busted in Lahore.

It is sad indeed, that apparently we have only these characters as an alternative to the khushk (dry) ``Islam`` of the mullah. Call it whatever you want, but there is an innate need of us humans to seek a higher power for assistance. It is Universal. You find people going to these pirs and Sufis in Pakistan and you find people prostrating before gurus and other supposedly “awakened” individuals in the US. Not much difference between the high level bureaucrat visiting a pir in Golra Sharif and an educated lawyer from the East Coast of the US going and doing guru-seva in the mountains of up upstate New York at guru-mai’s ashram.

nazarhayatkhan saheb, I agree with you in that people misplace spirituality with the antics of these jokers, however I believe that separating the genuine from the fake is a tall order. The “we”, whom you are asking to take corrective action, unfortunately do not have a (recent) history of applying their intellectual capital to religion, as they do to other matters of life. That is why you have, otherwise heads-up people going to these pirs and gurus.

SameerBJ I like your analogy of cigarettes :-)

It`s not only the weak ones who go there. Most powerful go there too. Everybody who goes there has certain delfish motives in his/her mind. It`s not good for the society if the convicted criminals are helped out in any way; but unfortunately, it`s become a part of our culture. Those who help criminals are not condemned; they`re praised and worshiped instead. Our society is suffering from the situation of poor law and order just because of this pshycholoy. Criminals are now dominating in every department of life. Law and order abiding people are suffering ultimately. Many of them are leaving our country just because they find no opportunities without the help of criminals who are the beneficiaries of this pshychology. Decent people are leaving, and they`re leaving. Please stop them.

iT Is all related to psycology.Psychic,illiterate,innocent soul go there.Weep,cry ,vent out and seek salvation.I don`t know what happen on Arus but normally Bari Imam is a hub for establishment.Federal secrtaries,Generenls,all big shots.They visit Gadi naseen,that person has a strong link with goverment.How Bari Imam manipulate the posting,transferand promotion only God knows better?

pir control...............

i think our friends on the wrong side of the border have found the perfect way to control pests like pirs, sufis, gurus, witches, seers and short ugly people .............from the bbc :

``Two women accused of witchcraft have been burned to death by a mob in the eastern Indian state of Jharkhand, police officials have said.
The incident took place in Godda, a tribal-dominated region about 300 kilometres (190 miles) north of the state capital, Ranchi.

According to police, the mob dragged Bahamay Kisku, 35, and Nanka Hembrom, 50, into a field where they were covered in hay and paraffin and set on fire.

The two women were accused of making another villager, Anant Hansda, sick, the AFP news agency reports. ``

............ that will teach them !

p.s. i wonder why our resident pir, hazrat naqshbandi - may the blessings of all prophets, dead and living, be upon him- , is so quite on this subject ............i would think he would be out their defending these miracle workers ..............

The sex connection.

Surprisingly, no one has touched that class of Pirs which pray (and prey) for the childless women.

This is most common in Punjabi villages. The women who do not have a child go to the Pir for the DUM or prayer.

Obviously, the Pir`s process is more biological than just the prayer. Some women even have a fetish for this religious sex.

One Pir in Lahore had this procedure for the act - the woman was required to be alone in the room. Then the Pir would say ``Open the Nala (shalwar tape)``. If the woman opened the Nala of her shalwar, then everything followed as understood by both.

If the woman got a shock and protested, the Pir simply said ``Look at the wall``. On the wall a Nala was hanging with a knot tied.

Hazrat Bari Imam was the Pir of Justice department. He had very powerful underhand connections with the judges. He could get his criminal mureeds released even from the death sentence. The top judeges were his khas mureeds. He was very influential in their promotions and postings. The holders of his gaddi still hold the same reputation. Anyone who can influence them can get away with anything if the matter goes to the high courts or the supreme court. For example, the biggest crime in Pakistan is the violation of the constitution of Pakistan. The dictators of Pakistan always get away with not only the violation of the constitution but also with the disgrace of it. They keep the gaddi nasheens of Imam bari happy. Our nation is suffering very badly due to all what`s going on in our courts of justice these days. Dictators, corrupt judges and bureaucrats are happy and comfortable. YEH SUB TERA KARAM HEY AAQA - BAAT AB TAK BANI HOVI HEY. They`ll remain happy and comfortable as long as the mela at the shrine of bari Imam is alive.

Peeri faqiri is now a part of Islam. Like Islamiyat, the myth of peers and soofis has been added in the syllabus of our schools and it`s taught in the compulsory Urdu subject from class 1 to class 10. Our so called Ulema and Mashaikh (Gaddi nasheens) hold joint conferences. They`re the essential parts and pacels of the power game of our unfortunate country. Ulema-e-Islam and Muskaikh-e-Islam eik he takrri kay chathay watay hein. We can`t get rid of them. They`ve not only messed up our social life in Pakistan, but they`ve also started following us in western countries where we go to earn respectable living. I hope they`ll not let us live respectably in any part of the world.

Eik jat apni murghi baghal wich daba kay apney pir sahib kole hazir hoya. Pir sahib neiN hazri tha maqsid pochia. Jat ney arz kitti keh tovady dada jan neiN judoN saday pind wich dera laiya see tay oh oss vailay ik faqir sun tay mera daday kole barriaN zameenaN sun. Mera dada tovaday daday diaN ghalaN touN bahut mutasir hoya aur sada tubar onhaN da mureed bun ghiya. Hon suth (60) saal baad nateeja eh nikaliya keh tussi bahut sairaN zameenaN thay malik bun ghay tay saday kole sirf eh murghi bachi hey. Tusi hone eh murghi vee sahnboo tay meiN faqir banan chala jay.

...........actually I am quite serious when I say that peeri mureedi is perhaps the most benign, least innocuous, and only entertaining facet of islam that even a diehard heretic like me can live with ………and it is necessary ………as silly as it might be, it is a fact that most human beings are plagued with fear and superstition and need “spiritual” support to get them through this terrible life, so they turn to nonsense like god and religion and hobgoblins and reincarnation ...........it is just one of those horrible facts of an ashraful maqhlooqat’s life………

..........some of my fondest memories of childhood are associated with visits to a certain pir in kohat ........... my khala and her sister, my mother (god bless her soul) , were convinced that pir sahib could deliver the goods for the price of a black bakra and a chador of roses .........so every time a cousin was bound for issb to pass the test to get into the army, or was having trouble at kakul, or was trapped in east pakistan or was up before the board for promotion, we would be off to kohat ...............we would pack a picinic lunch, the kids would pile into the opel and uncle would crank up the old morris minor and off we would go to pay homage to the pir of kohat ............ it was a treacherous drive in those days – you went through the winding kohat pass and it took hours to go the fifty miles and there was always the cousin who would throw up and the morris would overheat ……… but we didn’t care, we were off to see the pir .........i don’t actually remember seeing the pir, but I do remember all the black bakras who were slaughtered to make sure he put in a good word for us with the almighty ...............and he did.........things worked - everyone got through issb, nobody got thrown out of kakul, nobody was trapped in east pakistan, and the cousin who threw up made general ..........so what’s wrong with that ? ………

............... there are a lot of accidents and many people die on gt road between pindi and lahore , but I have never had so much as a fender bender ........ why?......because I have always thrown a rupee or two when passing by the the mazar on gt road right outside pindi on the road to lahore.............everyone does it, and those who don`t end up dead ............ a few years ago they built a new bridge a few miles upstream from the old mazar, but I was happy to see that the long dead pir sahib was moved to continue protecting the hapless travelers…..… only a fool would get on gt road without spiritual assistance ……

.........so let’s not nitpick little things piree muridee ........... let’s worry about bigger things like hajj which puts the urs of data sahib look like a boy scout gathering .............

Some facts about pirs and Sufis:

1. I don`t why they name the dens of Pirs as TAUNSA SHARIF, GHOLRA SHRIF, etc. Wouldn`t it be more logical and true if they call these places as TAUNSA BADMAASH, GHOLRA BADMAASH etc. You know very well what kind of people own these businesses. If they`re such big badmaash, then how come their forefathers with whom they relate different spiritual stories be smaller badmaash of their times.

2. Anyone can do these cheap tricks which they term as Karamaats. If someone tries to expose their tricks, then they simply kill him.

3. Many of the shrines which they do business with don`t have anyone burried in them. About one of the famous shire many people say that there`s donkey burried int the grave inside that shirine. It could be true. If people like General Zia-ul-Haq can have so many mureeds even when people have heard him what he talked like, then why not a donkey who never had a negative image in people with his nonsense talks.

Qaal Rahguzaar , Mard e Haal shoo
Paish Mard e Kamale, Paamall Shoo

“Leave idle talk aside, and cultivate thy “inner state”; (to achieve this purpose), bow humbly before a consummate personality”.

Rastan azeen parda key bar Jaan i tast
Be madad e Pir na Imkaan i Tast

“Getting rid of the veil that envelops thy soul, is not possible for thee except with the help of a Pir (spiritual guide)”.

If somebody is like as stated , I think it should work -----> Main loha tey mera Haadi paaris , naal assan zara khaeen o yaar

Other wise , What is wrong is wrong.

Tamadan Tassawaf Shariat Kalam
Butan i Ajam ke Pujaari Tamam

Haqeqat Kharafat main khoo gaye
Ye ummat ravayaat main khoo gaye

wo Sufi tha hidmat i Haq main mard
Mohabbat main Yakta , Hamiat main fard

Ajam key hialaat main khoo gaya
Ye saalik muqammat main kho gaya

Bujhi Ishaq ki aag andheer hai
Muslamaan naheen , raakh ka dhair hai

This is a wrong impression that piri mureedi was limited only to the uneducated people in the past and it`s recently become popular in the bureaucracy. The fact of the matter is that peeri mureedi was introduced in Pak-o-Ind by the Turkish bureaucrats also known as Saljok ghulams. Sufis formed an invisible bridge between the opportunist people in the general public and the ruling classes. The bureaucrats who could establish their links with Sufis and Pirs, moved fast upwards in the heirarchy of the establishment. In the later times of the British rule different Pirs monopolised different government departments. For example railway pir, custom pir, police pir etc. Not only the bureaucrats but professional type union leaders were (and still are) among their khas mureeds.