Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand and Kashmir

Dost Mittar, I am sure that in the waning days of the Raj, Col. Blimps wrote articles like these about the interdependence of the Indian and British economies etc. Let go man, you have been a Canadian for years now; but then being Indian is like a religion or some other life long affliction.

Ahmed Madani, you and veeresh malik are the only 2 honest interactors on chowk.

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Ahmed Madani...

I did find some really old books at my college in the US... there were close to 4 million volumes hosted in that library... No doubt I would have easily found Adam Smith`s book there...

However... I can`t seem to find it any where in Lahore but I haven`t looked in the Quaid-e-Azam Library.

#1 response: Adam Smith book is with oldest univ.in Karachi. All other univs are not good( U of P is ols is good all others are new).
But the title is wealth of nations. Obvisouly its old and you need not need to read(or any body as you know more about economy than adam Smith. What not book ( not for use but more as great book that started) in your american college of NJ. If i am right NJ is very old part of usa with oldest univs. I will appreciate coment about usa college.

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To Chowk Management:

Many people on this website are having a strange itch.

Although I do not find any pressing need for it, I will request the Management to please clarify the confusion between Romair and myself. Since you have the IP addresses its only you who can clarify that we are surely two persons posting from opposite side of the globe. Your 1 liner, without exposing our other confidential information, will suffice.

Thanks and regards,

:-)

dost-mittar at # 60:

This is good information for me.

However, I believe that you will subscribe to my idea that Kashmiris may tilt towards India, because latter`s economy is much more able to give them rewards than ours.

PS: Not a loaded a question ... the last one, though it might seem that way ..
Just wonderin` if it is the same person, because she had very interesting views.

ussa?... is it the same person who a few years ago claimed to be a professor at a reputed University and was soon afterwards exposed by people who knew him/her well from before?

Veeresh:
My remarks about muslim kashmiris were based on what I have read in news reports, especially the experiences of a Professor of Delhi College and aap-beeti account of a Delhi-based Kashmiri correspondent of a British newspaper.
Yes, all Indians, especially the poor, face harrassments at the hands of petty officialdom but it would be self-denial to pretend that there is no communal dimension to it.

Yes, it would be good to have a second chowk meeting in Delhi. We already had the first one at Karim`s last year:-). [I think that zafar tried to contact you for it but you were perhaps not available!].

# 53 by ironman:

LOL.

Admittedly, when I was reviewing my post before posting it, I myself thought that this is too Romairish in style. Especially, when I read `medium to long-term` thingy, I thought I was reading Romair`s post.

However, there is one big difference between us two as persons.

Romair is a true gentleman. Although lot of people call him names, he does not digress from expressing what is on his mind. I have not seen him retaliate.

With me you will find `Piyar ka jawab piyar say day ga, laathi ka jawab do (2) laathiyon say`.

This is the difference.

Again, your post was truly hilarious.

:-)

oh, btw, I am not a Kashmiri.

``#42 by ahmadzai on October 10, 2003 11:17am PT

Your ignorance amazes me. Top Military honor of Nishan-e-Haider was given to two Shaeeds from NWFP and Northern territories. One of them was from my own town having a Kashmiri ancestory. Now go and do some research on who am I talking about.

My God! what a disappointment this Doctor from South has become?

Although I travel a lot, I am yet to meet a Doctor from South this extremist in views and this frustrated in his life.``


ahmedzai,,,

when you and whole of your liars` sect together say this in writing.... We planned Kargil. We owned it. We always wanted it. That will be a day.

Sunni and owning the mistake???? Only thing you had done for last 1400 years is blamed others.

Send an article in writing ...WE did Kargil ...We own it......Nishane - e - bull$$$.....

Jesus...... in whole of your 1400 years of history you, of all, own a mistake?? Who do you think you are ??? a Shia (who you now kill at will?). An Ahmadi.... who you always killed?? or Orrible... killing whom the bells toll???

rsridhar

Even a born liar is insulted eh??

Yogiraj Patil

``#33 by Urstruly on October 10, 2003 8:12am PT``

Urstuly...

We Indians never had time for likes you. Get it or not. Stop appealing to us.

If you want write a very enlighting article write about Pakistan... That shining example of humanity, that perfection of religion.... that correctness of legal contracts....that gentleness about treatment of minority you inherited..... that equality of gender that is in built ....

We already know what pakistan can do for ``or else`` (that is, your appeal does not work). We also know what you will do. Run away from Pakistan. And live in USA. We know where your tail is. We know how long licking a shoe works. We know how long a licker will wag ...tail

Yogiraj Patil

dost-mittar and others,

Please forward posts to Romair urf Ahmadzai to following address:

Neelam Valley,
Behind McDonalds,
2100 El Camino,
SunnyVale, CA 94044

Dost Mittar . . . yes I shall be in and around Delhi in January, and if you agree, maybe we can try to set up a chowk meeting in Delhi around that time?

On the Kashmiris in India subject, I think as on date, the attitude of those with petty power towards anybody who is susceptible is fairly well dstributed across the board. Cops on trains will harass merchants carrying commercial goods. They will hassle migrant workers. Buses and taxies and private / public carriers shall stand in long lines at border posts. Innocents will get thrown into lockups, sometimes they will also suffer custodial deaths. Jails shall be full of people on whom the squeeze is being applied for whatever reason, and now even poor Daler Mehendi`s acquaintances are claiming that he is being discriminated against!!

When it happens to a vocal or ``in the news`` section of society, it makes for catchy reading.

Another example:- the mid-day flight Indian Airlines aircraft from Delhi to Srinagar is usually one that originated from Kolkata or Chennai earlier in the day. So it will usually carry copies of The Statesman or The Hindu. Even on the return leg from Srinagar, by which time it is afternoon. You may not believe this, but even this is quoted as discrimination by some honourable and ``big`` Kashmiris I know!!

As far as being discriminated because a person is Kashmiri Muslim, I don`t know, I agree the system is not perfect. But why single out Muslim Kashmiris?

Perception singles out communities and tribes, and not just one. Gorkhas commit murders and thefts and escape over the border into Nepal, so now there are fewer Gorkha watchmen/guards. Tribals from all over the country get listed as ``notified tribes`` and are picked up whenever there is an un-attributable crime in the area. The list goes on.

By the way, most any vendor in Delhi now needs to carry some sort of identification. either from the local Police Zone and/or Resident`s Welfare Association. In my humble opinion, this is legitimising of haftaa for a greater good.

Another thing - large amounts of Kashmiri shawls are actually made in and around Amritsar.

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