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Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand and Kashmir

Dost Mittar October 9, 2003

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#44 Posted by nakhok on October 10, 2003 11:47:37 am
The genesis of the Kashmir problem as described in DAWN:

http://www.dawn.com/2003/10/09/op.htm#1

DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
09 October 2003 Thursday 12 Shaban 1424

Kashmir: the only solution
By M. Asghar Khan

..... It would be well to examine its causes, the mistakes that we have made and to make a realistic appraisal of the situation as it exists today.

It is on record that Vallabhbhai Patel, the powerful minister in Jawaharlal Nehru`s government, had offered to Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan in 1947, that Pakistan should keep Kashmir and let India have Hyderabad. This offer was refused.

Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan and presumably the Quaid-i-Azam felt that we could have both; Kashmir, because it had a Muslim majority, and Hyderabad because it had a Muslim ruler. It is also known that Shaikh Mohammad Abdullah, the chief minister of Kashmir, asked to see the Quaid-i-Azam in 1947 but was not given an interview.

It is also known that the Maharaja of Kashmir was indecisive about acceding to India or to Pakistan. Without making any efforts to make contact with him, Khan Abdul Qayyum Khan, the chief minister of the NWFP, was allowed to unleash a tribal invasion of the state.

With the approval of the Pakistan government regular Pakistan army officers and men were allowed to join the government-sponsored tribal attack on the valley. When the tribesmen reached the valley, they began loot and plunder and after filling their vehicles began to
return to the tribal area of the North-West Frontier leaving the small number of regular Pakistan army officers and men and a few tribesmen to mount an attack on Srinagar. Since this attack was delayed for about a week and because of the return of a large number of tribesmen to their homes, the Indian army got the opportunity to rush troops to
Srinagar and save the city from the tribal hordes. The Maharaja fled the city and acceded to India. .....
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Excerpt from Article in DAWN (07/27/99):

Kargil - before and after
By Zafar Iqbal

``MILITARILY, the critical point which was supposed to have created the Kashmir problem was the hiatus in the tribesman`s march towards Srinagar when they stopped for a bit of ``rest and recreation`` (R&R) at Baramulla about a dozen miles from Srinagar airport. Their concept of recreation included a diversion into some looting and pillage and possibly a bit of rape on the side.

Anyway, whatever the truth, this window of opportunity permitted the Indians to capture Srinagar airport and bring in reinforcements; at least so the story is told. The ultimate result was the cease-fire line.``
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DAWN, Karachi, Pakistan
10 April, 2000

Kashmir: time to change tack
By Brig (retd) M. Sher Khan

``The story of Kashmir is a long saga, which started at the very inception of the new-born nation of Pakistan. While the Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir was wavering about deciding which of the two new dominions his largely Muslim state should accede to, large tribal lashkars from the NWFP region invaded the state with the aim of forcing the Maharaja`s hand in acceding to Pakistan. When these lashkars were in a position to seize Srinagar and its airport, the lust for spoils, loot and pillage got the better of them. The Maharaja panicked and sought Indian intercession, the price of which was that he should first sign an instrument of accession.``
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Excerpt from Article in Pakistan Link (1/28/2000):

Men and Events That Mattered in Pakistan
By Mohammad Ashraf Chaudhry

``The Kashmir problem which brought Pakistan to the three most costly wars it fought with India with the fourth looming on the horizon, might have been solved had Liaquat Ali Khan, the then PM, accepted Sardar Patel`s proposal to exchange Hyderabad with the Valley. As Sardar Shaukat Hayat puts it, Liaquat Ali Khan brushed aside the proposal by saying, ``Sardar Sahib, do you take me for a fool to accept a few hills in exchange for the vast plains of Deccan?`` India usurped Hyderabad anyway and forcefully occupied Kashmir too, leaving Pakistanis ruminating as to who was right, Liaquat Ali Khan or the Sardar of Wah who insisted on accepting it.

If this sounds somewhat dramatic, here is another event that let Kashmir slip away from Pakistan`s lap. In 1948 the, Tribal ``Mujahidins``, brought by Major Khurshid, had reached Srinagar which lay deserted. As they put their hands on the National Bank and came by some 3 lac rupees, it so happened that while the Major insisted on taking away that money as it belonged to the government of Pakistan, the ``Mujahidins`` on the contrary persisted in
their demand to celebrate Eid-ul-Azha along with it, and in this tug of war they lost three most precious days. This lull and halt provided India enough time to rush its deployments to the area and what happened next to the rest of the story as far as Kashmir is concerned is well known to all.``
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3056133.stm

BBC News
Friday, 11 July, 2003, 07:04 GMT 08:04 UK

The BBC report doesn`t leave much to imagination in reporting on the reminiscing Khan Shah Afridi:

..... He vividly recalls his march past Baramullah and until they were a few kilometres away from Srinagar, the Kashmir capital.

``On the way we fired at whoever came in our way. I don`t remember how many we killed, but they were quite a few,`` .....

.....Asked how many joined him for the journey to Kashmir, he said there were a lot.

``There were Mohmand tribesmen and we Afridis. Everyone carried his own gun.``

``The Pir of Maniki Sharif told us we will have to fight. [We were told] it was a war between Muslims and infidels and that we will get Kashmir freed.`` .....

..... He also admits to some looting by the invading tribesmen but denies that they raped women, something they were charged with.

``They were mainly people from Azakhel who looted. We did not put our hands on women. We did not put our hands on wrong things.`` .....

..... Asked whether he remembered the massacre of Christians in a convent in Baramullah, he said: ``Our leader Suhbat Khan was not a good man. He used to put hands on such people.`` .....
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#43 Posted by Ahmadzai on October 10, 2003 11:47:36 am
This a very good article.

I noticed several traders selling Kashmiri stuff as far as Morocco and Malaysia. Increasingly too, products from Indian Kashmir are being displayed in Pakistani markets.

In one of my earlier posts I had written that if Kashmir goes independent under UN (a hypothetical situation), then it will tilt towards that country which will offer Kashmiris better economic prospects. The valley of Kashmir has its economic linkages with India through roads running from North to South. It does not have economic linkage with Pakistan with roads from East to West. Therefore, imho, Kashmiris will tilt more towards India.

I had also written that if the quality of services offered by Pakistan and Indian are similar or even fractionally better by India, Kashmiris will deal with Pakistan, because of their religious affinities. If the quality is lot better by Indians, then Kashmiris will tilt towards Indians.

Initially, Pakistanis will have some advantages in winning the hearts and minds of Kashmiris. If we are not able to meet their expectations by a small margin, they will continue to tilt towards us, but will move towards Indians if we fail by big margin.

Having said all this, and even if India confirms through its independent research that economically Kashmiris will tilt towards India in the medium to long term and may even decide to merge with it, it will not agree to a plebiscite or to an independent Kashmir under UN. The reason is their under-confidence with Kashmiris and full confidence in their abilities to crush the insurgency by brutal force due to the support they are receiving from the powers that be in the wake of anti-Muslimness that pervades in the US and the West subsequent to 9/11.
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#42 Posted by Ahmadzai on October 10, 2003 11:17:24 am
rsridhar at # 16:

``Pakistan`s refusal to take back the dead bodies of the Kashmiris killed just a year ago in Kargil and its eagerness to accord all military honours to the bodies of the Punjabi soldiers has given a powerful fillip to the independence movement in the region.``

Your ignorance amazes me. Top Military honor of Nishan-e-Haider was given to two Shaeeds from NWFP and Northern territories. One of them was from my own town having a Kashmiri ancestory. Now go and do some research on who am I talking about.

My God! what a disappointment this Doctor from South has become?

Although I travel a lot, I am yet to meet a Doctor from South this extremist in views and this frustrated in his life.
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#41 Posted by puyu on October 10, 2003 11:06:50 am
Is urstruly a masochist?
He seems to enjoy the bashing he gets!!
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#40 Posted by MantoLives on October 10, 2003 10:02:55 am
Inyourface,

I should have said all sides...

I think rightly or wrongly Pakistan is part of the equation. I think this boneheaded attitude on all sides will cause more bloodshed.

I am glad that saner heads prevail in the Indian Government which considers Pakistan as one of the parties... as do the now useless UN Resolutions.

-YLH
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#39 Posted by arjun_m on October 10, 2003 9:14:38 am
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#38 Posted by stuka on October 10, 2003 8:51:51 am
Guys I think Urstuly is posting in the form of satire, a format inspired maybe from a teavher at a Community College on the east coast.
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#37 Posted by cosmic_citizen on October 10, 2003 8:43:11 am
#33 by UrsFoolishly on October 10, 2003 8:12am PT

{{
Look Indians, I asked you very nicely to stop the exploitation of Kasmiris now but you are not listening. Instead you are asking me to tell you how you are exploiting kashmiris. Well, how should I know, I am not an economist

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Now that you have admitted your ignorance.. I suggest politely that u should keep quiet!!!

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but one thing I am sure of is that you are very very bad people and that is proof enough that you are exploiting Kashmiris.

}}

You learnt in your University of Jihad/Mullahism.. or what ever it is.. to hate.. no matter what!!... and forgot to ask why?... above sentences are proof...

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So for the last time I am asking you very nicely to stop it now. Ok?
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so what is coming next?.. Jihad ched doge??? ...

Lots of love,
CC

ps:- my specially rude *## for urstr... other chowkies kindly excuse me....
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#36 Posted by arjun_m on October 10, 2003 8:43:11 am
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#35 Posted by tahmed32 on October 10, 2003 8:26:07 am
mantolives/dostmittar: Economics IS everything when you are not sure if you will have money to buy daal-roti for the evening. Butt sahib and other kashmiris dost mittar refers to have voted with their feet that economics is more important to them than politics. Politics in the subcontinent is a ``baray logoN ki khel``. One day these ``baray log`` will face the music for ignoring the plight of the poor people.
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#34 Posted by veeresh on October 10, 2003 8:22:30 am

Dost-Mittar # 30 . . . my responses sirji . . .

Thanks for good information, the kind only you provide.

*You are welcome. Indian soldiers in J&K, and I have lost a first cousin as well as a few other friends / relatives there over the decade, would probably serve anywhere if called upon.*

[ A posting into Srinagar is preferred over a posting into certain other cities of India by sales staff in, say, MNCs and automobile companies. I know this first hand.]
Does this apply to the Indian soldiers, too? (no, don`t reply!)

[J&K Bank is not just growing, but is also leading the charge in automation. The results are amazing, if you consider the ATM explosion in India overall.]
Do you know to what extent is it managed by Kashmiris?

*Top management is totally Kashmiri, largely Kashmiri Muslims. But enough Kashmiris of other sorts too.*

[Assimilation by democracy, as more Kashmiri girls end up marrying soldiers, and then settling down in other parts of the country.]
I find this somewhat surprising. I would have thought that the marriage of muslim girls to hindu-sikh men (without conversion) would be resented by the local population and would therefore be discouraged by the army.

*This is one of those un-reported truths. Local population increasingly finds it safer for their younger women to marry out of Kashmir. And also, increasingly, conversion is not an essential part of inter-religious marriage in India, across social lines. Especially to those with Armed Forces backgrounds and influences.*

[It is far easier for a Kashmiri to get a scholarship in colleges and schools all over India than it is for other Indians. As a result, Kashmiris are getting into the fabric, and not just as petty traders.]
This is not new. In my course of economics statistics at DSE in 1961, there were 3 nominees from J&K, though only one of them was a muslim, the others being a Pandit and a dogra.

*University towns like Pune are awash with Kashmiris. Here again, the Hindu/Muslim divide is not really visible, because the hostels/mess/flat sharing fundas are by region and language and food habits, not so much by religion.*

[If you ask me, my gut feel is that the Kashmir issue in India is going through the final pangs as was the Punjab separatist issue in the early `90s. Today most of the Sikh separatist leaders in USA & Canada are lining up outside the Indian Embassies/High Commissions sayiing ``sorry ji`` for ``permissions`` to clear their names, because while they were busy fighting and infighting as ``international freedom fighters``, another generation of Punjabis/Sikhs moved ahead and became ``international businessmen``.]
Economics can only win the minds of people. Indians would need to do a lot more to win their hearts. Even the hearts of the sikhs have not been won over yet although the Khalistan movement is dormant now.

*Economic emancipation tends to keep people busier at the malls and in debt-heaven, to a point where they don`t worry about separatism as long as the next day is not a dry day. Sikhs are, as you know, amongst the most economically ahead groups in India, probably next only to the Parsis, and apart from the standard loony fringe as well as those outside India, we haven`t heard much about their hearts being in pain for some time now. ByTheWay, let me clarify, standard loony fringe and busybody NRI religious nuts apply to all religions, not just Sikhs.*

To me, peaceful innocent byestander, the fact that even a totally backward part of the country like the new State of Chattisgarh has suddenly hit the big-time as far as progress is concerned, is reason to believe.

Let me give you another example - the Railway Line from Jammu to Srinagar, being built from both ends simultaneously, is progressing ahead of schedule. The complete construction and allied works have been sub-contracted by Indian Railways to small groups and consortiums of unemployed Kashmiri engineers and other educated Kashmiris, instead of to the larger groups who in any case were unable to deliver. Likewise the second road connection from Pathankot to Srinagar. There is co-operation and assistance and security from the Armed Forces, ofcourse.

I see this being reported in the Indian media, hesitantly but slowly and surely, literally as though they cannot believe themselves.

Likewise the dams and power plants coming up. There are Israeli companies using local labour and as long as salaries are paid in time, there are no more problems. I am told.

Yet another one - the Raid-de-Himalaya, an international motor rally, used to be restricted to Himachal Pradesh. This year, for the first time, it asked for and got permission to run a leg within J&K too. As I write this, I am told it went off without incident.

Indian Kashmir, like Indian Tamil Nadu or Indian Bengal or Indian Punjab or Indian Gujarat or Indian North East States . . . what is so wrong with the concept succeeding?

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#33 Posted by Urstruly on October 10, 2003 8:12:19 am
Look Indians, I asked you very nicely to stop the exploitation of Kasmiris now but you are not listening. Instead you are asking me to tell you how you are exploiting kashmiris. Well, how should I know, I am not an economist but one thing I am sure of is that you are very very bad people and that is proof enough that you are exploiting Kashmiris. So for the last time I am asking you very nicely to stop it now. Ok?
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#32 Posted by arjun_m on October 10, 2003 7:33:15 am
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#30 Posted by dost_mittar on October 10, 2003 7:19:13 am
Veeresh#17:

Thanks for good information, the kind only you provide.
[ A posting into Srinagar is preferred over a posting into certain other cities of India by sales staff in, say, MNCs and automobile companies. I know this first hand.]
Does this apply to the Indian soldiers, too? (no, don`t reply!)

[J&K Bank is not just growing, but is also leading the charge in automation. The results are amazing, if you consider the ATM explosion in India overall.]
Do you know to what extent is it managed by Kashmiris?

[Assimilation by democracy, as more Kashmiri girls end up marrying soldiers, and then settling down in other parts of the country.]
I find this somewhat surprising. I would have thought that the marriage of muslim girls to hindu-sikh men (without conversion) would be resented by the local population and would therefore be discouraged by the army.

[It is far easier for a Kashmiri to get a scholarship in colleges and schools all over India than it is for other Indians. As a result, Kashmiris are getting into the fabric, and not just as petty traders.]
This is not new. In my course of economics statistics at DSE in 1961, there were 3 nominees from J&K, though only one of them was a muslim, the others being a Pandit and a dogra.

[If you ask me, my gut feel is that the Kashmir issue in India is going through the final pangs as was the Punjab separatist issue in the early `90s. Today most of the Sikh separatist leaders in USA & Canada are lining up outside the Indian Embassies/High Commissions sayiing ``sorry ji`` for ``permissions`` to clear their names, because while they were busy fighting and infighting as ``international freedom fighters``, another generation of Punjabis/Sikhs moved ahead and became ``international businessmen``.]
Economics can only win the minds of people. Indians would need to do a lot more to win their hearts. Even the hearts of the sikhs have not been won over yet although the Khalistan movement is dormant now.
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#29 Posted by stuka on October 10, 2003 7:17:10 am
Dost Mittar:

``But you have to explain what you mean by economic exploitation before I can respond. ``

Apparently the village idiot could figure out the absurdity of the question but the learned Mullah could not. No wonder we are kicking their ass on every front, political, economic, diplomatic....

:)

Also, keep in mind the huge inflows of federal aid that have flown into Kashmir since independence. The subsidies provided to that specific state, over and above what is provided to others.
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