Dost Mittar October 9, 2003
#12 Posted by dost_mittar on October 9, 2003 2:35:54 pm
Dear Readers:
I would appreciate some comments on the subject matter of the article, namely, the economy of Kashmir in general and its linkages with that of India in particular, at least for the first few Interacts before getting into the politics of it. You might have noticed that the article stays clear of any political choices. As the cliché goes, aur bhi dukh hain zamane mein siyaasat ke siva!
I would appreciate some comments on the subject matter of the article, namely, the economy of Kashmir in general and its linkages with that of India in particular, at least for the first few Interacts before getting into the politics of it. You might have noticed that the article stays clear of any political choices. As the cliché goes, aur bhi dukh hain zamane mein siyaasat ke siva!
#11 Posted by anurag on October 9, 2003 2:25:59 pm
The Invisible Hand - a theory that has such wide applicability, it is amazing.
When it comes to Kashmir ``It`s not just economics``, you say... I couldn`t agree more, but do not underestimate the (potential) positive impact of the same.
Having said that, i don`t know how much of the Invisible Hand we see in Kashmir - the economic successes mentioned are definitely fascinating (Law of Unintended Consequences??), but i feel the economic links need to become far more pervasive in order to see some adam smith-ian changes.
Mantolives (#1) - what do you mean by the `real book`? Unless I`m mistaken in what you are looking for, the book is available reasonably easily..
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679424733/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance
OR
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895263351/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance
I discovered a copy on a local 2nd-hand book shop - so a happy me has read this...
advice - read it, now!
When it comes to Kashmir ``It`s not just economics``, you say... I couldn`t agree more, but do not underestimate the (potential) positive impact of the same.
Having said that, i don`t know how much of the Invisible Hand we see in Kashmir - the economic successes mentioned are definitely fascinating (Law of Unintended Consequences??), but i feel the economic links need to become far more pervasive in order to see some adam smith-ian changes.
Mantolives (#1) - what do you mean by the `real book`? Unless I`m mistaken in what you are looking for, the book is available reasonably easily..
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679424733/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance
OR
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895263351/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance
I discovered a copy on a local 2nd-hand book shop - so a happy me has read this...
advice - read it, now!
#10 Posted by nooralain on October 9, 2003 2:25:59 pm
stuka,
at the risk of you repeating yourself, or causing any further controversial arguments, could you tell me why you would rather support giving the valley to pakistan? i may have missed out on this before.
thank you!
p.s. you can email me if you`d rather not continue this here.
at the risk of you repeating yourself, or causing any further controversial arguments, could you tell me why you would rather support giving the valley to pakistan? i may have missed out on this before.
thank you!
p.s. you can email me if you`d rather not continue this here.
#9 Posted by InYourFace on October 9, 2003 2:25:59 pm
#1 by Mantolives
``I don`t like commenting on Kashmir, but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must. ``
If by ``both sides``, you mean Indians and Kashmiris, I totally agree. Ultimately, that`s what will happen.
``I don`t like commenting on Kashmir, but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must. ``
If by ``both sides``, you mean Indians and Kashmiris, I totally agree. Ultimately, that`s what will happen.
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#6 Posted by temporal on October 9, 2003 12:49:21 pm
Stuka:
today is Oct 9...i am talking in the present... what-if discussions are unrealistic and untenable...what if the French had replied to Tipu in the affirmative?...what if that turncoat Nizam had not sided with the British?...what if....khair...
...all am saying is that Kashmiris` feeling and decisions should have paramountcy over GoP and GoI`s wishes...also let me clarify...i mean all Kashmiris...
...t
today is Oct 9...i am talking in the present... what-if discussions are unrealistic and untenable...what if the French had replied to Tipu in the affirmative?...what if that turncoat Nizam had not sided with the British?...what if....khair...
...all am saying is that Kashmiris` feeling and decisions should have paramountcy over GoP and GoI`s wishes...also let me clarify...i mean all Kashmiris...
...t
#5 Posted by stuka on October 9, 2003 12:36:14 pm
``...it is the kashmiris decision...muslims, pandits, buddhists...they should decide! ``
I do not want to sound like a prick by disagreeing with you, but why then was not the same right given to Punjabis? Till 1946 WE HAD A UNIONIST GOVERNMENT. Danga fasaad was started by Poorbiyas before spreading to Punjab.
I would rather support giving the valley to Pakistan then to have an independent Kashmir.
I do not want to sound like a prick by disagreeing with you, but why then was not the same right given to Punjabis? Till 1946 WE HAD A UNIONIST GOVERNMENT. Danga fasaad was started by Poorbiyas before spreading to Punjab.
I would rather support giving the valley to Pakistan then to have an independent Kashmir.
#4 Posted by stuka on October 9, 2003 12:33:38 pm
``Stop economic exploitation of our Kashmiri brethren, you Indians``
Abey kabhi to such bola kar. The Amount we have wasted on Kashmir if we would have spent on Punjab it would have like England. The biggest chors in Kashmir were the Kkashmiri Muslims themselves, pro-India, Anti-India ..all of them.
Abey kabhi to such bola kar. The Amount we have wasted on Kashmir if we would have spent on Punjab it would have like England. The biggest chors in Kashmir were the Kkashmiri Muslims themselves, pro-India, Anti-India ..all of them.
#3 Posted by temporal on October 9, 2003 12:28:13 pm
yasser:
...but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must..
...that too...but they are ancilliary...first and foremost...it is the kashmiris decision...muslims, pandits, buddhists...they should decide!
..t
...but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must..
...that too...but they are ancilliary...first and foremost...it is the kashmiris decision...muslims, pandits, buddhists...they should decide!
..t
#2 Posted by Urstruly on October 9, 2003 12:25:22 pm
Stop economic exploitation of our Kashmiri brethren, you Indians.
#1 Posted by MantoLives on October 9, 2003 11:57:11 am
Very well written ... but sadly only a sophisticated version of Romair`s theory .. `Economics is everything`... Adam Smith`s `hidden hand` is such a double edged sword though... `greed` or `profit` ... a thin line separates the two. Its not just Economics... the grievances of the people run deep... a sense of history, disposession, and `occupation` pervades such issues... I don`t like commenting on Kashmir, but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must.
An aside ...Can anyone tell me if they have actually seen or read the real book `Inquiry into the wealth of nations` by Adam Smith? I have been trying to get a hold of it, but haven`t found it yet...
-YLH
An aside ...Can anyone tell me if they have actually seen or read the real book `Inquiry into the wealth of nations` by Adam Smith? I have been trying to get a hold of it, but haven`t found it yet...
-YLH
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