Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand and Kashmir

Very well written ... but sadly only a sophisticated version of Romair`s theory .. `Economics is everything`... Adam Smith`s `hidden hand` is such a double edged sword though... `greed` or `profit` ... a thin line separates the two. Its not just Economics... the grievances of the people run deep... a sense of history, disposession, and `occupation` pervades such issues... I don`t like commenting on Kashmir, but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must.

An aside ...Can anyone tell me if they have actually seen or read the real book `Inquiry into the wealth of nations` by Adam Smith? I have been trying to get a hold of it, but haven`t found it yet...


-YLH

Stop economic exploitation of our Kashmiri brethren, you Indians.

yasser:

...but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must..

...that too...but they are ancilliary...first and foremost...it is the kashmiris decision...muslims, pandits, buddhists...they should decide!

..t

``Stop economic exploitation of our Kashmiri brethren, you Indians``

Abey kabhi to such bola kar. The Amount we have wasted on Kashmir if we would have spent on Punjab it would have like England. The biggest chors in Kashmir were the Kkashmiri Muslims themselves, pro-India, Anti-India ..all of them.

``...it is the kashmiris decision...muslims, pandits, buddhists...they should decide! ``

I do not want to sound like a prick by disagreeing with you, but why then was not the same right given to Punjabis? Till 1946 WE HAD A UNIONIST GOVERNMENT. Danga fasaad was started by Poorbiyas before spreading to Punjab.

I would rather support giving the valley to Pakistan then to have an independent Kashmir.

Stuka:

today is Oct 9...i am talking in the present... what-if discussions are unrealistic and untenable...what if the French had replied to Tipu in the affirmative?...what if that turncoat Nizam had not sided with the British?...what if....khair...

...all am saying is that Kashmiris` feeling and decisions should have paramountcy over GoP and GoI`s wishes...also let me clarify...i mean all Kashmiris...

...t

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#1 by Mantolives

``I don`t like commenting on Kashmir, but ultimately a fair and just solution acceptable to both sides is a must. ``

If by ``both sides``, you mean Indians and Kashmiris, I totally agree. Ultimately, that`s what will happen.

stuka,
at the risk of you repeating yourself, or causing any further controversial arguments, could you tell me why you would rather support giving the valley to pakistan? i may have missed out on this before.
thank you!

p.s. you can email me if you`d rather not continue this here.

The Invisible Hand - a theory that has such wide applicability, it is amazing.

When it comes to Kashmir ``It`s not just economics``, you say... I couldn`t agree more, but do not underestimate the (potential) positive impact of the same.
Having said that, i don`t know how much of the Invisible Hand we see in Kashmir - the economic successes mentioned are definitely fascinating (Law of Unintended Consequences??), but i feel the economic links need to become far more pervasive in order to see some adam smith-ian changes.


Mantolives (#1) - what do you mean by the `real book`? Unless I`m mistaken in what you are looking for, the book is available reasonably easily..

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679424733/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance

OR

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895263351/104-4244580-7223119?v=glance

I discovered a copy on a local 2nd-hand book shop - so a happy me has read this...
advice - read it, now!

Dear Readers:
I would appreciate some comments on the subject matter of the article, namely, the economy of Kashmir in general and its linkages with that of India in particular, at least for the first few Interacts before getting into the politics of it. You might have noticed that the article stays clear of any political choices. As the cliché goes, aur bhi dukh hain zamane mein siyaasat ke siva!

#11 by InYourFace
//..If by ``both sides``, you mean Indians and Kashmiris, I totally agree. Ultimately, that`s what will happen...//

Exactly. This whole Kashmir issue started as a dispute between Kashmiris and rest of India and it will end when these two parties realise the futility and agree to end it.

The economic link that the author has described is going to be the catalyst and ultimately will prove the biggest factor in settling the issue.

In the mean time - Pakis should look for a good doctor for a blood transfusion. Kashmir should be running in their blood for too long.

Dost mitter

I gues it was only me who addressed the subject matter of your article and only village idiot bothered to comment back. What you have to say about the on going Indian exploitation of kashmiri resources. I think a time has come when those Butts must be freed from your tyrranny. No?

re: liberation struggle in Balwaristan (aka POK)
Urstruly, Ahmedzai, and other mullahs lurking here. You want Indian Kashmir, don`t you? Well, tell you what. You won`t have your own part of Kashmir for long. Read and weep:
http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/insights/insight20000206b.html
Excerpts:
1. ``Pakistan misadventure in Kargil has caused many a problem for the country. Some of the long-term consequences are only now beginning to unfold. Several politicians and social activities in the Kashmir valley are surprised to have received recently letters of greetings and calls for help from the leadership of the Balawaristan National Front (BNF) which has been spearheading a movement for independence in Gilgit and Baltistan (jointly called Balawaristan) in Pakistan occupied Kashmir. Even at the Human Rights Conference in Geneva recently the BNF distributed memoranda alleging massive human rights violation of the Balawari people of Pakistan and calling for its independence.``

2. ``Pakistan`s refusal to take back the dead bodies of the Kashmiris killed just a year ago in Kargil and its eagerness to accord all military honours to the bodies of the Punjabi soldiers has given a powerful fillip to the independence movement in the region. Also, the Balawaris are greatly confused by the pictures of Indian Army and BSF jawans risking their lives to bring the bodies of the Pakistani dead soldiers and giving them a proper islamic burial followed by prayers for their salvation in the hereafter. They are confused because this completely negates all the Pakistani propaganda stories they have been told about the cruelty, if not total inhumanity of the way Indian security forces conduct themselves in Kashmir. The television pictures of these burials on Indian soil of Balawari soldiers that pakistan has refused to take remained the talk of the town in Gilgit and Baltistan for days on end and appear to have destroyed the very raison d`etre of the conflict with India in their minds. ``
Sridhar

How come no ``Held`` kasmiris interact ever on the chowk? We have one ``Azad`` K rep, in Romair. This is real strange