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RE: Sattar2 #75

Not getting personal with Urstruly would help

but this reply of yours raises some extremely valid points.

One of your best posts thus far. Keep them coming....

Ras

*74.... Dear Mr. wrapster..... Your are right. Do you mean to say my mistakes are some kind of Freudian slip of type writwer? All my mistakes are mistake due inadwquate mind, confused mind and almost delinquency of minor. I write as most are generous and they tolerate delinquiencies. Also I keep only to subjects which are not heavy or too meaty. I am advanced many time to do not try to lift a sword which I will not be able to lift. Honestly I find his students Adler and Jung more understandable. I will like to become psycho-analyst in future but age is racing aginst me, some times fill I am heading south. As I told earlier my mathethematics knowledge is not beyound two years of college 1965 BA Maths two years. Also with time maths has changed, its new maths and it is beyond my knowledge.
If am im not in mathematics but there are catagories really in two types to analyse of events in nature. One is analysis of determistic the paratmeters are set and then its time history they do this in rain forcast, they feed data and mostly Partial Differential equations are solved. 2 way is to look at data and generate probalistic boundary conditions and work problems normally results are resonable.

THE PROBLEMS WITH ALL SOLUTIONS OF DIFFERENTIAL(Partial) Euations is the reasonable ness of boundary conditions. Also there are problems of Uniqueness of solutions. For some problems there is probl;ems of stability and convergence to wrong solutions. Real problem are problems in Partial Differentai equations like memory Integrals in which boundary CONDItions are not known APRIORY( not known before- simple way to say). Solution also includes finding boundary conditions also.
FROM all coments again same mathematical truth, Intrgrartion even with wrong daats give good result.( area under cure, differential is difficult its slope. Interpolation is easy extrapolation beyond boundaries nearly speculation.

Thanks for comment. I also love women. I was surrounded all my married life by four, two daughter left, one to go. I just watch women for happiness. Its magic of way they talk (talking about daughters), they laugh and blame me and make me work hard. I had problem with little as her ideas and my ideas about men differ hopefully she will grow out of her new coming in age of female excuberance and grow out of romanticism. I respect women, they compromise and pull the bulluck cart. I have wife and with time I am becming her boy and she naturing for advanced age. Many times we do not get too much to talk as our daughter is occupying all our universe, like a planets mother and father revolve around her. Do you think any problem? I wonder what will happen to me and my wife after she is gone. Some times I fear worst. My wife says everything will be alright. I do not know. Write in general. Some times I get little uninterested in my job even. Just need general comments. Also I use to feel how my daughters can be so busy almost to forget us except when they need me. Yes women are unpredictable and like them but afraid of them. Like petting tigerress so beautiful, happy but can get mad fast. Any way thanks

Good luck with your daughters and their lafanga husbands.

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Urstruly: “Arabs have no control over their money…“

This is the type of defeatist mentality that will keep the ummah in the gutter for ages. These smelly Arabs are sitting on mountains of wealth … and our internet scholar suggests that Arabs are being victimized … and they have no control over their destiny.

These custodians of faith are able to build palaces of gold and ivory all over the world … maintain fleets of limousines and harems of women … wear the finest of silk and gold … but what they cannot do is … to open a few schools and develop some basic technology … send a few loaves of breed for the starving palestinian kids … and learn to read, write, and count. Of course, the only Arab, who according to Urstruly could do all three, including counting to 20 the day he discovered his toes … was killed by the western conspirators … and now the ummah has no choice to remain ignorant and stupid for the next four thousand years …

… but not all is lost … the Arabs continue to funnel money they never had to support wahabism all over the world … stash mosques in pakistan with ak47s … publish mountains of useless books on ahadith and fiqah … support terrorism in kashmir … while buying 3 year olds from child-camps from malaysia and bangladesh for camel races. Of course … all this is possible since Allah continues to help the momins in acts of righteousness … which once again proves truthfulness of Islam … and the futility of building freeways and shooting satellites in space ...

#71

It should be obvious that ahmadmadani is a spoof. All the mistakes are deliberate and some are quite funny. the part about the various statistical distributions was hilarious! He could be indian or pakistani.. anyone`s guess... probably pakistani as he seems to know more about things that the average indian would not.

#71 by ahmedmadani,,

Sirjee.

Jai Bhavanee. Jai Shivajee. You are far more well read, far more intelli.... heck I cannot even spell the word. I think I am the true ahmedmadani......

By the way Mahashay. The horse (most of the times it was either a female horse or a pony with Margatthas) was called somerthing else. Want to tell the story tell about Santajee/Dhanajee. You wont find in Mughal something you read...They were Marathas...

Another time, another story.

Quite impressed with your knowledge. Are you sure you want to play the role you are playing?


Yogiraj Patil

ahmedmadani ji as always you bring clarity and honesty without taking sides, thank you for the efforts.

About ships rolling (45 degrees each way, twice a minute) and pitching (fore to aft in different cycles) would give rise to a movement known as ``corkscrewing``. Movement of the unsecured human body in terms of feet/metres and/or degrees/arcs would after some time become a reflex, just like banking one way while cycling and another way while driving and yet another way while riding. If height above water level on the bridge is say 75 feet and draft of loaded ship carrying stiff cargo like iron ore is another 75 feet, all sorts of formulae can be used to calculate Centre of Gravity, Height of Metacentre, Heeling Moments . . . but unless the ship was loaded by a fool or you met the grandfather of all tsunamis on the beam, no ship would flip over like in Poseidon Adventure. They would just keep . . . corkscrewing. Often violently.

On dark winter nights in the Pacific with gale force 10 winds and alone with your Gods and no land around nothing else visible . . . you understand many things about life. Biggest thing I understood was that we Indians & Pakistanis must be amongst the biggest fools to fight with each other.

But back to ships . . .

The ability of the human body to adapt is amazing; it is our minds that get taught to get pre-conditioned.

I guess you would not be able to experience this sort of movement on boats in the harbour or even on passenger ships, but if you come to India again, please get permission to travel to Himachal Pradesh and go by State Roadways Bus from Shimla to Manali, on the roof. You will get the idea, and you will have more stories for us than Indian Airlines flights and dollar rates for tourists/foreigners/NRIs etc.

#65 Thanks D,Mitter ,Stuka and Arjun.
Dear Sirs, Question asking is very simple answering is difficult.
All distributions have biases. I measured aginst all three to see what was standard Deviation.
All points were able to fit very properly in all. So all were fine to use.

POSSION distributions are having proper biases for work regarding desease deaths eg aids occurance etc.
Random occurances like earthquake predictions related, rainfalls, rise of temp cycles, hurricanes are normally (example: specially probablity of exceeding 140 Faharentit for 10 times in next 100 years at Jacocabad, Sindh such type of problems) can best predicted by BIONOMIAL distribution.
NORMAL distrubtion are for personal relationships or people related.

These are suggested normal ways. I taught my daughter when she was in her college after looking at the equations I came to conclusion one can change those curves quite bit if you introduce constants. As basically is intergarion of equations neumerically and many children do not understand this curves are nothing but limit of sum which can be expressed as integral within given limits which in two dimensions is area from left hand side. ( Once I explained to my daughter her Ideas about her father are got upgraded.)

Mr. Arjun: As usual you made fun of me. Bill gate is unlucky born in usa. He must be paying lots of tax atleast 60% ?. If he was in desh he would not be paying any tax. NS never paid any tax( even for change), BB paid some $360 tax I read. If you see Bilawal house in Karachi in Cliffton, general sahib is landlord but tax burden is very light. Bill Gates May be 1 million dollars max. Indirect regressive taxation of all poors, fixed salaried Babus always sacrafice for rich is norm in pakistan and epecpt same in India.

I think you didnot understood the importance of horse in that time. Big Mughal Arabian horses needed lots of food as they were almost 50% more heavy and was problem like a big tank with great gas guzzler demand. While Bhimythadi was smaller , good on foot and good on short sprints and on light diet can survive on less protein content grass of Deccan compared to Indogangetc plains grasses. Also he needed big maintenance.

There was legend spread by rumors or saying whatever they say. When Great Arabian Mughal horse took to water and sips little water and feels disturbed they use to ask are you seeing that ``bloody Bhimthadi`` in water.. Real problem I found out was really relational , a bad relationship between rider and horse.

When frustrated Big Mughal rider use to get angry to find lots of food for horse and pay lot angrily he use to say you eat lot, shit lot and can not catch with that little horse , then horse use to get angry and will say screw you you big fat boy. That tatto is not carring overweight rider like you and kick to man . That was problem.

As you know best tank of WW2 was russian T-34. Medium wt, fast, not great range of gun but speed and agility. This tank was not superior on paper if one looks at amount of streel it can throw. But in battle field it will easily hunt big german tanks , tiger tans dure to agilty. In beginning when after crossing Bug river Germans sweft fast forward. Then russians began to use their monster tanks Kirov Vorashilov tanks series KV1, KV2 proved ineffective as they used to bogged up easily in steps area of Urakane. When German circled Moscow, leningrad russians started employing this light tank T-34 with devasteting effect. Even their design enginners were surprised by their own success. These light tanks were able to hit at Tiger tanks weak points, exhausts and destroy with much ease. Against these light tanks german disabled heavier tanks were forced to be used as static guns.

See book Great Mughals or books on alamgir. See typical picture Mughal soldiers and nealy noncombatant looking maratha sitting on little horce. The picture tells the story of more independant fighter and heavily armed fighter carrying lots of dead loads.

Stykaji : thanks for compliment. Please ask Pundit A Bajpai to issue me honary passport. It can be handy as at Taj they charge so much extra. The worst is fare of Indian airlines so extra for foreigners its discriminatory. Only consolation to me was they were catching lots indian NRI due to their flashy children and then Charging etra money in air. Its difficult to hide NRI specially when you are travelling with brat children. I told my campanion when he had to give extra money that Children are Burden and Charity business. He said I am nice man.

I have tried to explain but its difficult to tell these things .
Good luck everybody.

#65 Thanks D,Mitter ,Stuka and Arjun.
Dear Sirs, Question asking is very simple answering is difficult.
All distributions have biases. I measured aginst all three to see what was standard Deviation.
All points were able to fit very properly in all. So all were fine to use.

POSSION distributions are having proper biases for work regarding desease deaths eg aids occurance etc.
Random occurances like earthquake predictions related, rainfalls, rise of temp cycles, hurricanes are normally (example: specially probablity of exceeding 140 Faharentit for 10 times in next 100 years at Jacocabad, Sindh such type of problems) can best predicted by BIONOMIAL distribution.
NORMAL distrubtion are for personal relationships or people related.

These are suggested normal ways. I taught my daughter when she was in her college after looking at the equations I came to conclusion one can change those curves quite bit if you introduce constants. As basically is intergarion of equations neumerically and many children do not understand this curves are nothing but limit of sum which can be expressed as integral within given limits which in two dimensions is area from left hand side. ( Once I explained to my daughter her Ideas about her father are got upgraded.)

Mr. Arjun: As usual you made fun of me. Bill gate is unlucky born in usa. He must be paying lots of tax atleast 60% ?. If he was in desh he would not be paying any tax. NS never paid any tax( even for change), BB paid some $360 tax I read. If you see Bilawal house in Karachi in Cliffton, general sahib is landlord but tax burden is very light. Bill Gates May be 1 million dollars max. Indirect regressive taxation of all poors, fixed salaried Babus always sacrafice for rich is norm in pakistan and epecpt same in India.

I think you didnot understood the importance of horse in that time. Big Mughal Arabian horses needed lots of food as they were almost 50% more heavy and was problem like a big tank with great gas guzzler demand. While Bhimythadi was smaller , good on foot and good on short sprints and on light diet can survive on less protein content grass of Deccan compared to Indogangetc plains grasses. Also he needed big maintenance.

There was legend spread by rumors or saying whatever they say. When Great Arabian Mughal horse took to water and sips little water and feels disturbed they use to ask are you seeing that ``bloody Bhimthadi`` in water.. Real problem I found out was really relational , a bad relationship between rider and horse.

When frustrated Big Mughal rider use to get angry to find lots of food for horse and pay lot angrily he use to say you eat lot, shit lot and can not catch with that little horse , then horse use to get angry and will say screw you you big fat boy. That tatto is not carring overweight rider like you and kick to man . That was problem.

As you know best tank of WW2 was russian T-34. Medium wt, fast, not great range of gun but speed and agility. This tank was not superior on paper if one looks at amount of streel it can throw. But in battle field it will easily hunt big german tanks , tiger tans dure to agilty. In beginning when after crossing Bug river Germans sweft fast forward. Then russians began to use their monster tanks Kirov Vorashilov tanks series KV1, KV2 proved ineffective as they used to bogged up easily in steps area of Urakane. When German circled Moscow, leningrad russians started employing this light tank T-34 with devasteting effect. Even their design enginners were surprised by their own success. These light tanks were able to hit at Tiger tanks weak points, exhausts and destroy with much ease. Against these light tanks german disabled heavier tanks were forced to be used as static guns.

See book Great Mughals or books on alamgir. See typical picture Mughal soldiers and nealy noncombatant looking maratha sitting on little horce. The picture tells the story of more independant fighter and heavily armed fighter carrying lots of dead loads.

Stykaji : thanks for compliment. Please ask Pundit A Bajpai to issue me honary passport. It can be handy as at Taj they charge so much extra. The worst is fare of Indian airlines so extra for foreigners its discriminatory. Only consolation to me was they were catching lots indian NRI due to their flashy children and then Charging etra money in air. Its difficult to hide NRI specially when you are travelling with brat children. I told my campanion when he had to give extra money that Children are Burden and Charity business. He said I am nice man.

I have tried to explain but its difficult to tell these things .
Good luck everybody.

re Urstruly

``And the fact remains that Arabs do not have control over their money . ``

They simply choose not to. Why cannot they put their money in Bahrain or Dubai, those are pretty good centers of finance too? Or, if there is pressure on them to keep it in American banks (BTW Amer banks have branches in Bahrain and Arab banks in NYC), why cannot this humongous wealth stealthily buy up Citibank or BofA or ChaseMorgan? The answer can be one of the three: 1. The Arabs trust American banks to be the best custodians of their money 2. The Arabs are stupid 3. The Arabs love America more than their own desert kingdoms. In any even, the fault lies with the Arabs exclusively.

``I say that Arabs are forced to committing that fault. ``

Forced at gunpoint? By specific clauses in oil transaction contracts? By threats of the US Congress?

DM:

Mahar regiment was raised in 1942, technically at the time of the British but much after the ``martial race`` concept decided recruitment policies. You are right that the Mahars did fight under the Bombay Presidency Army in the 19th century.

DM:

Mahar regiment was raised in 1942, technically at the time of the British but much after the ``martial race`` concept decided recruitment policies. You are right that the Mahars did fight under the Bombay Presidency Army in the 19th century.

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Mr. Moughal:
Thoroughly enjoyed this one!

ahmedmadani:
Just out of curiousity, why did you use poisson distribution to analyse regional distribution? BTW, the number of people dying in battle do not necessarily represent regional/linguistic distribution. For example, soldiers in infantry and grenadiers taking more casualties, might have a disproportionate representation from certain communities.

stuka, others:
Stuka, take it from me, madani saheb is no Bhartiya mussalmaan. He is a genuine Pakistani. You can tell it from little details, such as his spelling Gujarat in a Pakistani manner (there is a Gujrat in Pakistani Panjab too which they spell without an `a`) or his menitoning Maharashtrian brahmins as marathas; most Indians wouldn`t make this mistake as Marathas are not brahmins. Whether or not he is all the other things he says is another matter.

Re. martial races, the British did not include Marathas among martial races, probably for the same reasons they excluded bengalis and bhaiyyas, they fought on the wrong side during the 1857 revolt.
And Mahar regiment was formed by the British, not by the Indians. This was a unique regiment as its soldiers came from the so-called untouchable castes. These castes had been fighting since the time of Shivaji, even though the brahmins did not like it. No wonder, that Maharashtra produced Ambedkar and has been the birthplace of the militant dalit movement, including giving currency to the term `dalit` for themselves.

urstruly #55 you write ``Palestinians sold their land to jews happily? absentee landlords?..............are you totally out of your mind? ``

I am not. These are historical facts of which you are obviously ignorant. Who do you think was in control of Palestine when the Zionist movement and the Aliyah (return to Israel, as the jews called it) started in the second half of the 19th century under Theodor Herzl and co? Surprise: it was the muslim Ottoman empire. By the time of the Balfour Declaration in 1917, there were already over 60,000 jewish settlers who had formed their colonies (or kibbutzim) in what is now israel UNDER the rule of the muslims. And yes, these jewish settlers BOUGHT this land from Arab landlords, and who saw this as a profit making opportunity.

It is true that in 1948 large numbers of palestinians (750,000 is the figure, not 3 million as you say - but it doesnt matter either way it was a large number) were forced out of their homes. BUT this was after the 1948 war when neighboring Arab countries declared war on Israel once it was formed.

The Israelis deserve their share of the blame no doubt. But the Arabs are hardly the suffering saints you imagine them to be. Over a period of several decades before the Balfour declaration they sold their land voluntarily - and happily, since then were under no compulsion to do so under Ottoman rule. They failed militarily in 1948 and 1967 despite their overwhelming odds and due to their own near criminal incompetence (- i once heard a pakistani general who visited jordan at their invitation just before the 1967 war tell my father how he was appalled at the lack of homework the Arabs had done for the approaching war in terms of collecting even easily collected basic military intelligence on israelis troop concentrations, and how this was matched only by the overconfidence of the jordanians who assured him they would be in tel aviv by sundown).

PM #60

For the US Govt, selling T Bills/Bonds is selling its debt to US citizens or foreigners and so financing the US budget deficit. However, for the buyer, it is an income earning assest--something akin to buying a piece of property that appreciates in value. I didn`t mean to imply that the Saudis were selling bonds to finance the Saudi budget deficit, which was non-existent in the 1980s.

I gave a very sketchy outline of the process. A huge chunk of Saudi money was kept in US and European commercial banks, which naturally were eager to lend it back out. A substantial portion of these loans were made to LDCs to finance oil imports (the oil import bill for most countries skyrocketed following the 1973 and 1979 oil price hikes). As long as interest rates were low, these loans were pretty easy to service. However, 1981-83, US interest rates rise very rapidly as Paul Volker (then Chair of the Fed) decides to use monetary policy to counter very expansionary fiscal policy (tax cuts and budget deficits, made worse by Reagans defense buidup-- remember, the US was already starting to see historically very high US inflation rates). This contractionary monetary policy is based on using very high interest rates (prime rate in the low double digits and climbing!) to squeeze inflation out of the economy. Volker succeeds quite well but the cost is the worst recession in US postWWII history and the international debt crisis. Loans that can be serviced at 6-7% (not too difficult) are killer at 16-17%. For most of the world, the 1980s are the ``lost decade`` of development. This is what I meant by petrodollars indireclty causing the 1980s debt crisis.

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Urstruly,

The Iranian assets were seized BECAUSE they took US hostages, not because they overthrew the Shah. The timing is pretty clear. The US was instrumental in both persuading the Shah to leave and in persuading the Iranian Army to not back the Shah. The simple fact is that everybody involved miscalculated Khomeini`s appeal--the US, the Tudeh, the Iranian intellectuals, etc. BTW, Kind Faisal wasn`t the brain behind the 1973 Oil Embargo, it was the Shah of Iran, who was running out of money to pay for his military ambitions.

I think my post makes it pretty clear where the fault lies: right on the Saudis. You are saying that its the West`s fault for not ensuring that oil is $50+ a barrel? For not continuing to burn every more (per capita) amounts of OPEC oil? For not allowing the Saudis to wallow in wealth? I think you are seriously mistaken here.