Primetime Pope and the Maverick Mother

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The Roman Catholic Church has decided that the best way to appeal to people of the Third World is to give them their own saints.

Along the same lines, an Adivasi (member of some Tribal group) from India has now been named a Cardinal.

The one prince of the Church I like is Cardinal (Jaime) Sin of the Philippines... I like his name. You don`t get better than Cardinal Sin. Unless it is.... no, I won`t say it; it is too politically incorrect.

Maybe you should have taken a stronger stand here -re: Theresa the sainted ``white`` mother here. The article is a bit limp....


Farzana memsahib, a word or two here. There is no female version of Chris Hitchens. Thisis the first step to replacing him. You need to be a bit more strident, and obnox here. But you are getting there.

The Pope was the only world leader who daily, tirelessly, diplomatically, prayerfully begged the political rulers of the world to prevent the destruction of Iraq up to the second American bombs fell. In fact the Vatican called for an end to the brutal economic sanctions imposed by the American owned UN that killed thousands of Iraqi children after the Kuwait crisis.

Regarding Mother Teresa....to all those she administered to, feed, educated, nurtured, mentored and saved...she is a Saint. As to rice paddy?? Tum pagal !!!!

gorabandar:

would that explain why in America only catholic preists are pedophiles?


Liked your psuedonym. Hamidm is it you?

ferz:

... ‘goodness’ and ‘badness’ are all momentary lapses?...

where?

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Great to find myself agreeing with Farzana about Mother Teresa (and largely about Lata too in her previous article)! She certainly was an achiever - but a saint? And as for the so-called ``miracle``, there have been enough scientific proofs that it was no miracle.

While I do admire and respect the Pope for many reasons (the years of indoctrination in a Catholic school - the ``convent`` education so much prized in matrimonial advertisements! - are bound to surface!) I also agree that he doesn`t deserve the Nobel Prize for his efforts in Iraq. And I don`t think he`s as open-minded as Farzana seems to have been led to believe. I constantly interact with Roman Catholic priests and nuns and base my ideas on their comments.

There are approximately 50,000 Catholic priests in the United States. Of that number a very small fraction, in fact statisically less than the general population have sexually ``molested`` young people. It is the press that regards this as a pedophilia problem, when in fact it is a homosexual problem. Since homosexuality is an exalted , praiseworthy status in the United States the press has a blind eye to real exploration of the truth.

I for one don`t know which is worse, the greedy ``molested`` victims coming forward after several decades to claim large sums of money or the stupid church officials handing the large sums over.
The clerical offenders including those in the Episcopacy deserve their day in court and then be properly jailed.

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I like the way you break the idols just as I liked Arun Shourie at the job.
And you go overboard in your attempts just as Shourie does.
I am not suggesting that you are in the same league as Mr.Shourie.
Put yourself in the place of a leper or a prostitute.
And youd feel a lot better being treated as a human (even with the sinner label) rather than as a wretched outcaste .
Rest of it (the saint ,nobel part) I couldnt agree more

FV,
Well written critique! Haven`t read the second half, but liked what i saw in the first.
Worth repeating: ``I have never thought of people of god as being perfect; their very holiness is imperfect. It makes them blind to everything else. Besides, it is high time we demanded from our various religions and their wardens some degree of accountability.``

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gorabandar:
re. pedophile numbers in the church.
You parenthesize the word molested, point out their (the `victims``) greedy motivation, and yet, couldn`t resist playing jury, judge and executioneer of the ``offendors``. What`s up with that? Has everyone here forgotten the Satanic Rites Child Abuse hoaxes of the 80`s and the now heavily discredited Repressed Memory Syndrome that the abuse industry came out with a decade or so ago?
Since the 1980s, self-help authors have claimed that you don`t even have to remember a sexual event to know it occurred. ``If you think you were abused and your life shows the symptoms, then you were,`` wrote Ellen Bass in The Courage to Heal. The symptoms of past molestation listed in such books range from asthma to neglect of one`s teeth.

For a non-hysterical assessment of hte landscape and a look at the numbers, read review in abcnews, hardly the bastion of the Left.

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Indeed, say some psychologists, there may be no such thing as a ``typical`` pedophile, if there is such a thing as a pedophile at all. Qualities by which social scientists and the police have marked him, such as his purported shyness or childhood sexual trauma, do not bear out with statistical significance. More important, sexual contact with a child does not a pedophile make. ``The majority of reported acts of sexual abuse of children are not committed by pedophiles,`` but by men in relationships with adult women and men, said John Money, of Johns Hopkins, a preeminent expert on sexual abnormalities. They are men like Charles Jaynes, who wrote in his journal about a fast crush on a ``beautiful boy`` with ``a lovely tan and crystal-blue eyes`` and in whose car police found literature from the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) but who had an adult girlfriend and was rumored to be lovers with Sicari, who also had a girlfriend.

In other words, there may be nothing fundamental about a person that makes him a ``pedophile.`` So-called pedophiles do not have some genetic, or incurable, disease. Men who desire children can change their behavior to conform with the norms of a society that reviles it. Pedophilia can be renounced; in the medical language we now use to describe this sexual proclivity, it can be ``cured.`` Indeed, contrary to politicians` claims, the recidivism rates of child sex offenders are among the lowest in the criminal population. Analyses of thousands of subjects in hundreds of studies in the United States and Canada have found that about 13 percent of sex offenders are rearrested, compared with 74 percent of all prisoners. With treatment, the numbers are even better. The state of Vermont, for example, reported in 1995 that its reoffense rates after treatment were only 7 percent for pedophiles, 3 percent for incest perpetrators, and 3 percent for those who had committed ``hands-off`` crimes such as exhibitionism.

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Dear Farzana:

``I have never thought of people of god as being perfect; their very holiness is imperfect. It makes them blind to everything else. Besides, it is high time we demanded from our various religions and their wardens some degree of accountability. ``

Amazing insight. Don`t you think that you want to exclude Islam. Otherwise, by definition you include Prophet Muhammad, or you want to include him too.... My little and dangerous knowledge of all religions and more specifically Islam, tells me that it is sacriligious, and punishable by stoning to death, or by burning on stake.... I do not know how the Jews (probably cruification) and the Buddhists (may be self immolation) deal with such cases. I am assuming Dara Singh is a Hindu.

ANIL

The Pope presides over the oldest, most entrenched, and perhaps the corruptest cartel in the world. That does not take away from his own personal contributions to good. Unlike any other Roman pontiff he was able to say a few, if hesitating, words in favor of pluralism and religious liberty. In the dark days of Communist brutality he remained a psychological and practical symbol of resistance to the Commies. To this day, he is the one man who has courage enough to come to America and publicly say that he is for undocumented aliens and against the killing of the unborn (both extremely unpopular positions in the USA).

Yet, he is the pontiff. He continues in the Roman Church`s tradition of blocking intra-Christian communion and of squelching any internal dissent to the centralized clerical dictatorship of his Curia.

As for the article`s comments on soon to be St. Teresa of Calcutta, well they seem to be a desperate feminist attempt to put a gloss of human fraility on a woman many consider as close to Godliness as mortals can ever get. The ludicrousness of the `sinner` terminology shows how much the author is ignorant of basic Christian doctrine which finds every human to be a sinner (that includes a nun, a prostitute, a banker, anybody else). Another salvo in a last ditch set of attempts to belittle the woman whose very life, humility, and piety was an affront to the moral relativity preached by the radical feminist Left-Liberal movement and the moral superiority preached by Muslim- and Hindu radicals.

A few corrections: Yes the Papacy is the oldest continuing government in the world. RE: ``Roman Church`s tradition of blocking intra-Christian communion``....The Roman Church IS the Church founded by Christ THE Christian Church and the present Pope has made the re-unification of Christianity one of His main goals . RE: squelching any internal dissent to the centralized clerical dictatorship of his Curia. Interesting choice of words. The role of the papacy and it`s centralized government is to maintain orthodoxy. There certainly is wide dissent especially in Europe and the United States where the clamoring for homosexual ``marriage`` and the brutal killing of unborn children through abortion define the culture. The Church will not...indeed can not ever change it`s position on these matters. Call this DICTATORSHIP if you will but there are no Vatican police that will knock on your door to set you right. Unlike Islam ( of course depends on the countries) people are not forced to be Catholic they choose to be ( or not to be).
Curious how the Pope had no trouble having a huge Mosque in Rome....Indeed even kissed the Koran.When will the royal whoremongers of Saudi Arabia return the favor or at least allow Christians to wear a crucifix. Don`t hold your breath.
I would suggest using the internet as an educational resource and learning a little about th e``Roman Church and it`s history rather than rely on the Zionist controlled media pap(fiction)about the Inquisition and the Crusades.

.......... nothing is sacred - not edward said, not the man with the white dunce hat and silly robes, not even mother teresa ............. i like that ............ now if we could only topple those other clowns with clay feet - abraham, jesus, moses, muhammad and imran khan ..................

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