Kahan Se Aap Zamaney Ke Bad Aye Hain

bas itni si hay meri mohabbat ki dastan
ik shakhs tha jo dard-e-judai day gaya

A beautiful story - sensitive and poignant. It is amazing how you turned the mother`s putdown as a motivator to succeed in life. I also like the way you showed empathy for your old love without gloating over her unhappy situation. Do write some more!

Based on what I read in this story, I do not think it`s fair to assume that the writer was no where in his life and became something out of the blue just because of the hurting remark of Patricia`s mother. It may have created a spark, but I am not willing to believe that was the only instigator. It`s very normal to aspire to do well in life for your own self-esteem and well being.

There is a gap in the sequence of events. It`s not that the writer went back to Patricia as soon as he reached stage xyz of his life. He was already married and fathered a baby girl when someone mentioned Patricia and he went back to revive his old memories.

Just my five cents!

Tahmed: I think you have some other motive here with the kind of posts you are posting. Probably, it won`t hurt to avoid bracketing people in one bucket in the current context.

Dost Mittar:

Aap Kya Suggest Kur Rahae Haenh?
Are you asking the writer to continue with this story or are you requesting him to write another one with a moving theme ? Please such such bataen.

Thank You.

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Yeah me to can qoute lots of poetry but I dont want to do it in Roman urdu.
#35
Thanx once again. You are proving a guardian angle.
For everybody else.
Come on get off it. I was just in mid teens. So dont expect me to have deliberated my actions the way you analyse them. Those who thought of me as a chokhra boy expected worse.
Certainly this single incident to motivate me to find my way. It certainly was a precursor.

Zahra:
``Are you asking the writer to continue with this story or are you requesting him to write another one with a moving theme ?``
The latter!

Zahraj #35 If you have anything specific I have written that you disagree with or consider offensive, I will be glad to discuss that. But just ascribing dark motives and references to the ``kind of posts`` i am writing is, I think, equivalent to not saying anything.

Tahmed:

By saying ``other motive`` I don`t imply ``dark motives.``

Why be so negative? By the way, did you see some darkness in your own motives that you felt like stating that ?

If not, then let`s not take it further.

If yes, then welcome to the process of awareness.

Take it easy...

ZahraJ #40 chowk discussions - including my ranting on chowk - are not going to bring peace on earth; nor find a cure for cancer; nor further man`s frontier`s of knowledge; nor ensure that no child goes to bed hungry. Better people than me are doing that right now. to me, the chowk break is a bit like coffee break i think, no more and no less. where some people write articles, others cheer or jeer the articles and each other.

my motive in critiquing of Mr. ijaz is thus no more than that. it is neither dark nor high-minded, neither pecuniary nor benevolent nor ulterior (to use some common species of ``motive``).

you take care too. :-)

hi fosa,
thank u so much for the Estsanatlehi`s info...Estsanatlehi means woman of change...in plain simple words..:)
regards
Kiran

Dear TAhmed:

True to a certain extent. But some of us have very little time on our hands to indulge in coffee break discussions. And, probably, I do have a tendency to look into certain things more seriously than needed to; still, I do not see the need to be apologetic for that. That`s how I am. Lately, Chowk has published good reading material and it will be sinful to not appreciate where appreciation is due. It`s just a personal value thing.

I do not want to come across as inflating the writer`s ego despite his kind remarks. I simply could not resist appreciating something that stood out and needed to be appreciated.

And, to your point, the factor of physical attraction is pretty evident here. The writer didn`t mention about anything else that captivated him. Interestingly, he has married a beautiful woman. Now, this tem ``beautiful`` can mean many things, but it most probably refers to someone who is as attractive as Patricia was or probably is better than Patricia. That`s why he completely lost track of his childhood love and never went back after establishing himself :) Now, must make him feel guilty :) Let`s grind him on that :) Just kidding! Please do not do that!

On the flip side, probably Patricia was not attracted towards him. Probably, she was not ready at that stage of her life to associate with someone in a romantic way. Whatever. Point is that men get attracted towards women without even talking to them. Silent Admiration! Men are indeed cut out differently. I have seen couples where the package is fairly attractive on the surface but as soon as you talk to them and get to know them you wonder what was/is the binding factor. It`s completely mind boggling.
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Take Care...

ZahraJ #43 You obviously think broadly, and as such while finding his article an interesting read you also accept my criticism of the article. This ability to see more than one side of the picture puts you, imho, in the ``Dost Mittar League`` in chowk. (this is meant to be a compliment, btw). :-)

ZahraJ, your post says it all. You have accurately read everything through and through.
God Bless

Tahmed:

I do not want to argue for the heck of it; but this ain`t an article per se. This is a memoir. And, the rules of engagement are different for a memoir vs. an article....:)

End of Discussion!

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Fosa please be more precise.
Bye