Karamatullah K Ghori October 28, 2003
#43 Posted by Urstruly on October 29, 2003 9:35:06 am
hamidm
But what good are those nobel prizes when Jews and Israelis do not know the value of human life. The people who have historically been through deportations, concentrations camps, and gas chambers are doing the same to their fellow human beings by creating the world`s largest concentration camp in Gaza and West Bank; three million human beings are deported from the land where they have been living since God created earth; and they have subjected human beings to a never-ending murder and mayhem which would even put hitler to shame. A nation who has been subjected to racism, itself divides humanity into two castes which they call humans i.e. Jews and sub-humans i.e. ``Gentiles`` the rest. Tell me one good reason that those nobels are worth anything to rest of the humanity. Muslims do not hate Jews because they are Jews and they are getting nobel prizes but because of their injustices and racism and the misery that they have inflicted upon rest of the humanity. Yeah, Israel is the only democracy in a sea of despots, but what good is it for humanity. If you compare the attrocities committed by those despots with that of Israelis upon humanity, those despot seem like choir boys.
But what good are those nobel prizes when Jews and Israelis do not know the value of human life. The people who have historically been through deportations, concentrations camps, and gas chambers are doing the same to their fellow human beings by creating the world`s largest concentration camp in Gaza and West Bank; three million human beings are deported from the land where they have been living since God created earth; and they have subjected human beings to a never-ending murder and mayhem which would even put hitler to shame. A nation who has been subjected to racism, itself divides humanity into two castes which they call humans i.e. Jews and sub-humans i.e. ``Gentiles`` the rest. Tell me one good reason that those nobels are worth anything to rest of the humanity. Muslims do not hate Jews because they are Jews and they are getting nobel prizes but because of their injustices and racism and the misery that they have inflicted upon rest of the humanity. Yeah, Israel is the only democracy in a sea of despots, but what good is it for humanity. If you compare the attrocities committed by those despots with that of Israelis upon humanity, those despot seem like choir boys.
#42 Posted by aquaris on October 29, 2003 9:01:20 am
Yes....I know.....there was more Anti-War Demonstation in West , and the so called anti-Muslim states......that why i used the word..., and is really IRONIC how stupid of rather callous the Muslim LEADERS are they have simply burried their heads in Sand ...like an ostritch.....EXCEPT for MR Mahatir Mohammed...
WESTERN GOVERNMENTS not WEST or WESTERN PEOPLE........
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#41 Posted by hamidm2 on October 29, 2003 9:01:20 am
jewish conspiracies and other delusions that plague the ummah ........
since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in economics - this makes the ummah real mad because their guys who came up with interest free banking and the hawala system didn`t get any attention .....
since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in physics - that makes the unwashed arabs and arab-wannabes even madder becaues their man, sheik baz, didn`t get it for his flat earth theory ..... and what about our guys who proved that you could collapse tall buildings by flying planes into them!
since 1990 jews have won 9 nobel prizes in biomedical sciences, but the muslims got no credit for discovering the chemical composition of camel milk
since 1990 jews won 2 nobel prizes for literature and romair didn`t get anything for reading green eggs and ham
................... it is a conspiracy! and what about the grammies, emmys and oscars ?......... and what about olympic medals ....... now the afro-american are in on this conspiracy as well, after all sammy davis junior was a jew !
since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in economics - this makes the ummah real mad because their guys who came up with interest free banking and the hawala system didn`t get any attention .....
since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in physics - that makes the unwashed arabs and arab-wannabes even madder becaues their man, sheik baz, didn`t get it for his flat earth theory ..... and what about our guys who proved that you could collapse tall buildings by flying planes into them!
since 1990 jews have won 9 nobel prizes in biomedical sciences, but the muslims got no credit for discovering the chemical composition of camel milk
since 1990 jews won 2 nobel prizes for literature and romair didn`t get anything for reading green eggs and ham
................... it is a conspiracy! and what about the grammies, emmys and oscars ?......... and what about olympic medals ....... now the afro-american are in on this conspiracy as well, after all sammy davis junior was a jew !
#40 Posted by arjun_m on October 29, 2003 6:34:35 am
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#39 Posted by tahmed32 on October 29, 2003 6:34:35 am
yagacho #33 The term ``illegal state`` is a good propoganda line, but quite hollow. States are the result of POLITICAL processes, not legal ones. This is how Pakistan was formed, this is how India was formed, this is how EVERY SINGLE STATE in the world was formed.
#38 Posted by PM on October 29, 2003 2:29:23 am
Is yagacho (#33) trying to tell us that the Jews, ethnically and historically, are from Mars? Iceland? Or that what is today called Syria has not been home to many what today are called Palestinians for centuries?
#37 Posted by aquaris on October 29, 2003 2:29:23 am
Mahatir has the hit the Nail...with a One Ton Hammer ....
he has hit the very nerve.....and it Pains...
......it just proves....at least WESTERN Governments Believe in the Clash of Civilizaion Throry....and Mr Bush plus Blair are working overtime for it..
.....the truth slipped Mr Bush`s tounge when he declared a Crusade....and no matter.....how much sweet talk follows later ...future events proved him right.
.....They have earlier tried to Destablize and Criple him.. ( Anwer Ibrahim/George Soros)..
but the time is slipping away and very fast..
#36 Posted by aquaris on October 29, 2003 2:29:23 am
Mahatir has the hit the Nail...with a One Ton Hammer ....
he has hit the very nerve.....and it Pains...
......it just proves....at least WESTERN Governments Believe in the Clash of Civilizaion Throry....and Mr Bush plus Blair are working overtime for it..
.....the truth slipped Mr Bush`s tounge when he declared a Crusade....and no matter.....how much sweet talk follows later ...future events proved him right.
.....They have earlier tried to Destablize and Criple him.. ( Anwer Ibrahim/George Soros)..
but the time is slipping away and very fast..
#35 Posted by Fosa on October 28, 2003 11:21:38 pm
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#34 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on October 28, 2003 11:02:22 pm
Ghori sab
Mahatir should not have named ``Jews`` - a blanket statement for every one, who believes in the Jewish faith. It is in bad taste. There are good Jews and there are bad Jews - just like all other religions.
He should have castigated - no matter how much or to what extent, the Israeli government.
Even the Israelis, as people, should not be brushed with the same one stroke.
#33 Posted by yagacho on October 28, 2003 11:02:22 pm
the song that sigalph235 is singing is the very same song that western media and leaders have been singing for decades; mahathir is actually not a democratically elected leader and neither is malaysia a democratic country. to europeans and their descendants the only nations having true democracy are european or their settlements, rest all is sham.
if IBM, Microsoft are in malaysia then they are there for a low cost manufacturing nation providing stable economic and political environment. there is no altruism in their action. it is a two way street where both parties are benefitting.
regarding the crocodile tears, i think what mahathir is referring to is the ethnic cleansing of muslims in bosnia, 3000 killed iraqis civilians of gulf war two, 50,000 - 70,000 killed kashmiris in india and the genocide of muslims in gujarat. quiet frankly, any decent human being should have tears for such inhumanity.
by the way, doctor has just entered the building.
if IBM, Microsoft are in malaysia then they are there for a low cost manufacturing nation providing stable economic and political environment. there is no altruism in their action. it is a two way street where both parties are benefitting.
regarding the crocodile tears, i think what mahathir is referring to is the ethnic cleansing of muslims in bosnia, 3000 killed iraqis civilians of gulf war two, 50,000 - 70,000 killed kashmiris in india and the genocide of muslims in gujarat. quiet frankly, any decent human being should have tears for such inhumanity.
by the way, doctor has just entered the building.
#32 Posted by PM on October 28, 2003 11:02:22 pm
re. nakhok`s various,
Thanks for the unusual angle and IMO well-balanced approach!
Incidentally, aren`t you confusing the (occidental) Sephardics with the Ashkenazi?
sigalhp235 #27: good points and questions!
Thanks for the unusual angle and IMO well-balanced approach!
Incidentally, aren`t you confusing the (occidental) Sephardics with the Ashkenazi?
sigalhp235 #27: good points and questions!
#31 Posted by yagacho on October 28, 2003 11:02:22 pm
tahmed32 and nakhok,
no matter how you twist the story the gist of the matter is that israel is an illegal state that was forcibly created on the land of palestine. israel is a legacy of ninteenth century colonialism. Other nations like india, indonesia were able to evict their european colonisers but palestinains were not and have become the refugees of middle east.
creation of the state of israel was the problem. that is where the mess started and most probably that nation will take the whole world into a big mess.
no matter how you twist the story the gist of the matter is that israel is an illegal state that was forcibly created on the land of palestine. israel is a legacy of ninteenth century colonialism. Other nations like india, indonesia were able to evict their european colonisers but palestinains were not and have become the refugees of middle east.
creation of the state of israel was the problem. that is where the mess started and most probably that nation will take the whole world into a big mess.
#30 Posted by ballukhan on October 28, 2003 11:02:22 pm
#20 by HisExcellency on October 28, 2003 3:20pm PT
I agree. Mahatir should have avoided stereo-types and sweeping generalizations like he did just to gain some popularity domestically!
``Political correctness should be applied consistently. Perhaps Mahatir should have ended his 2 decade-political career on a graceful note, instead of making statements that will only please Osama and Samuel Huntington.``
I agree. Mahatir should have avoided stereo-types and sweeping generalizations like he did just to gain some popularity domestically!
``Political correctness should be applied consistently. Perhaps Mahatir should have ended his 2 decade-political career on a graceful note, instead of making statements that will only please Osama and Samuel Huntington.``
#29 Posted by cipram on October 28, 2003 8:27:19 pm
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#28 Posted by tahmed32 on October 28, 2003 8:26:24 pm
mumbaiker #34 and once the first chinese lands on the moon, then what? will he open up a chinese restaurant on the moon? or play ``east is red`` for the moonlings?
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