Orissa: A Gujarat in the making

re: kaurasach #103

``Hinduism is the only religion that shrunk in its original country. Only 60% of what was united India is Hindu. People were fed up with the religion - that is why droves went to Sikhism, Budhism, Jainism and many especially the lower castes went to Islam freely.``

You are right on both counts. Hinduism has shrunk. Hindus are the only people whose geographical core has been getting smaller and smaller over time. It is not beyond the real of possibility that Hinduism will completely disappear from India in a few centuries. Then the five thousand year old civilization - literature and philosophy, fine arts and festivals, of which we are so rightly proud - will vanish into thin air. Thank God, I am convinced, that at least Sikhism and Buddhism will survive, so much of the knowledge and wisdom of India will be preserved.

But while we can be thankful for Sikhism and Buddhism, Hindus need to ask themselves why history has treated them the way it has.

The first and the only place to start from is from within us, and ask what our fatal weaknesses have been. Caste system has definitely been one. We must do everything to eradicate this curse. We need to do that not only because it weakens our societies, but because it is inhuman to our own brothers and sisters. That is why I do not feel offended when you remind us of the truth: the problem of caste has not gone away.

Then there are many other reasons why Hindus have been constantly losing their lands. The time has come for us to understand why and take appropriate steps. In the history of a civilization as old as ours, a few centuries are not a very long period.

Action, says the Lord, is one of the cardinal principles in His Creation. The time has come for us to act, individually and collectively. The great advantage our religion offers is that it gives us the intellectual freedom and intellectual firepower to attain any goal we aim for.

Wishing you the best.

#103 kaurasch

You are right. These hindus are stupid people. If they had any brains, they punish conversion by death. That is what advanced and ``peaceful`` religions do. They would banish all other religions from India and murder every non-hindu. That is what a great ``peaceful`` religion did in Arabia, murdering and forcibly converting jews and christians. Now Arabia is truly pure, though they are some horrible shia`s left. Inshallah, soon they also may get purified.

Stupid, stupid hindus. Always looking for new ideas and criticizing themselves and accepting conversion and new religions. Silly morons !! Now if only the hindu`s followed the more advanced religion point of view. Here are a few of the advanced religion`s ideas:

Sura 9, verse 5 of the Koran reads, ``Then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them. And seize them, beleaguer them, And lie in wait for them, In every stratagem (of war).``

Koran Sura 5, verse 85, which speaks of enmity between Muslims and non-Muslims, reads: ``Strongest among men in enmity to the Believers wilt thou Find the Jews and Pagans.``

But wait a minute: is this a religion or a murderous cult??? Is this a religous text or a hate manual? Maybe we need to petition the UN to have this bizarre cult declared a danger to humanity?

Hain, maybe the stupid moron hindus are not so bad. Maybe their open-mindedness to new ideas leads to reform and new religions and to progress. Maybe this is the natural order as opposed to fascist systems wherein people are to be killed if they choose a different path.

re: an article by Tavleen Singh
Here is a gentle reminder to those who are never tired of saying that India`s economy is booming (at times i have done that too!):
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=320605
Much remains to be done.
Sridhar

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Angana,

Your article reflects your opinions as opposed to the ground realities in orissa.
Remember that, tensions between converts and tribals is very high in orissa, not between upper castes and the rest as your article claims. This was evident during Staines`s murder too when the tribals supported dara singh and his gang. Thankfully law took its course in sentencing dara singh for the crime he commited. Its not like gujarat, where murderers were supported by the governemnt.
If our law permits missionaries to convert anyone than, VHP etc should not be held in contempt for doing the same. I don`t know why people like you cannot see reality and create fantastical one sided stories. Is it the product of our slightly biased curriculum in schools?
Would you care to tell us if there is caste discrimination practiced within christians and muslims in india too?
And lastly, everyone here will appreciate if you replied to some of the interactors` who have raised valid points. You seem to be good in just posting your opinions masked as facts and then performing the vanishing act.
Adios

re:#93 by Fosa
Do you even read my post? When did i defend Togadia, Modi etc.
BTW, Shourie, Advani are not the problem. They may hold some extreme views but that is permitted in a democracy. They certainly are not the Modi types.
Sridhar

re: post # 87

``I have said in my last article that RSS is not bad if it espouses violence.``
The above should read as: `` .....RSS is not bad if it gives up violence``.
Sridhar

re:#94 by gujjubania
As i said before, you have a lot to learn. For some nations, it takes centuries to reach a point where it can have a popular democracy and communal amity. India was handed down that on a platter by the greats like Nehru, Gandhi. Free market is not a new idea and BJP did not invent it either. So, do not go overboard about India`s economic developments. All that is accomplished will be brought to dust by a frenzied mob if there is no communal harmony. YOu need to go to a psychiatrist. I have not seen anyone so young with so much hatred.
Sridhar

re: Gujjubania`s comments

``I think money is the only thing that matters. For an individual as well for a nation.``
Will you sell your mother for money? After all you only said money is everything. Will you sell her if it means a little more money for you?
People who have no character do not understand what that word means. I think you are a screwed up young man in need of some serious help.
Sridhar

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