Between Musharraf and Mullahs—Who Won?

#20 ballukhan

The answer to that question should be that since Pakistan didn`t exist before 1947 why should it exist now?

Arjun seems to have lost the plot...

What makes you think that the mullahs and the military are not one and the same? Historically these two groups have worked hand-in-glove to preserve their common vested interests.

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hamidm at # 30:

Abay oey Gopinaath, a better thing for you to do would have been to post a reasoning backed value adding message in response to mine at # 28, not shed your over active se*ual harmones on this board like the extremist fundoo Indoos namely arjun, jay the passive gay, peeing mishras and ballukhans do all the time.

Btw, if Pakistanis are getting screwed up, why is it hurting in your odd places?

Now be a good boy, grow up and spell out why do you feel the deal is bad or else go and rot in your frustration as usually the fundoo Indoos do.

military and mullahs won,

This is another of those class of articles trying to put logic to the events of pakistan. In reality, mullahs are the great winners. Following the joint kargill invasion, the influence of the jihadis in the pak army has increased and resulted in the coup that put mushy to power. Now mushy has paid back to the jihadis by giving them political power essentially by preventing the others from putting up candidates through the gragduste process. Only a true jihadi from madrass could take part in pak elections.
At last the jihadis have the military and the political process. what more can the jiahdis ask for.

Ref Zakkk #17

[arjun: I don`t believe any Indians came out during Indira Gandhis Emergency to protest..weren`t they all arrested?]

People like George Fernandes hid in safe houses for a long long time before getting caught. There were some protests though they as well as news about them were suppressed. A few newspapers had the courage to test the limits of censorship... Indian Express and its editor at that time who I believe was Arun Shourie.

[The only reason Indira Gandhi held elections was because her intelligence sources told her she`d win..]

Maybe the Intelligence Bureau wanted to see her lose! Would that be possible in Pakistan?

ahmedzai`s pakhtunwali ..........


``I would advise all Chowkies of Pakistani origin to accept the current situation, pray for the stability and prosperity of the country,``

.............. so if you are getting raped you might as well lie back and enjoy it ....... i guess it is an old nada tradition from mardan and bannu ............. but this praying business is something new - it must have something to do with the recent discovery of god north of attock !

.......... this is the kind of fool`s logic that has kept the pathetic pakis fat, dumb, happy and totally screwed up for the past fifty years - don`t question the general or the mullah and everything will be okay, just fine ............. and then we complain when it hurts in all kinds of odd places !

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Zakkk at # 24:

One could only wish that world were as simple place to live as you had stated it to be.

You think that BB would have agreed on these two terms alone and would have sacrificed her right to be the PM of Pakistan for eternity?

If you live in Pakistan then you should have known that Musharraf went for an alliance first with PPP. It is very well known that the Government offered the post of PM to Makhdoom Amin Fahim. Every one knows that the option was turned down by BB in self-imposed exile. She believes that the position of PMship only belongs to her. Any other party filling that position would be ``non-democratic force or Baqiyaat`` to her.

aaisha at # 4:

``B/w Mullahs and Mush, it`s the people of the Islamic republic of Pakistan who have lost. ``

How? Please elaborate.

In case yoou have any confidential info, kindly divulge.

PML Q/Musharraf and MMA agreement is a win-win situation for the Government, MMA and therefore, for Pakistanis.

1. The peace process has started at the 12th SAARC conference with President Musharraf having backing of all the parties that now form an over whelming majority in terms of votes polled during our last elections. The real losers will be fundoos of India like Bal Thakray and his ilk on this website i.e. arjun, gay, peeing mishra, mumbaiker, ballukhan, etc.

2. President Musharraf (i.e. military) will get rid of his uniform by the end of this year. If God forbid President Musharraf is killed before that, a new CNC will take over for the military and Senate speaker Soomro will take over the Presidency and run it till a new President is elected by all the houses.

3. The Pakhtoon population of the NWFP and Balochistan will not feel left out on Taliban`s issue by the Government.

4. Pakistan will see political as well as economic stability.

5. The pseudo-democrats of PML N and PPP have marginalized themselves. PML N is closed to disappearing altogether. The feudals of cult PPP will now form opposition along with nationalist parties of other provinces. Unfortunately, the PPP leaders are already terming MMA and PML Q as non-democratic forces. Recall that they had called PML under Nawaz Sharif as a non-democratic force when the latter had defeated them narrowly in 1990 elections.

I would advise all Chowkies of Pakistani origin to accept the current situation, pray for the stability and prosperity of the country, pray for success on peace process with India for the benefit of the inhabitants of Asian Sub-continent and weed out petty differences amongst ourselves (i.e. Pakistanis).

I personally think Mush could have come to a better understanding with the PPP if he had done two things..
1) Allowed th majority party in Sindh to come to power (aka the PPP )

2) Released Zardari on jail..

With that done ...the 17th amendment would have passed...with minimum grief.

p.s: Whats wrong with Chowks editors? I`ve e mailed them twice and had no response?

What really surprises me is how the tone of Indian media has changed in recent days. The way these chameleons tow their government policies is amazing; so much for the independent democratic media. That really puts them at par with fox and abc. Just a few days ago if the situation with Indian media could be described as ``muNh meiN churri baghal meiN Ram Ram``, can now be described as `` Baghal meiN churri, munh meiN Ram Ram``. Well, I hope at least it will give some rest to the perpetually flared haemoroid of hindu religious nuts on this website - or will it?

Interesting article.

The Americans won!

Ciao