Shandana Minhas January 21, 2004
#37 Posted by solace on March 25, 2004 8:43:59 am
simply lovely, i read this and i guess the biggest reason for me was the very nice naming you have given to these characters, then me myself am a bangash and i have a cat too, so i dunno why but i sort of identified with it, goes to speak how easily one can put himself or herself into any given situation provided the words similarize or familiarize with you... i am honored to read you ma`am. you do great justice to being you.. very original
#36 Posted by khatam-shud on March 12, 2004 1:54:38 pm
hi shandana: i dont know if youre still following up on your article but in your footnote you say you wrote this to give your fifteen month old something from our land. i have an almost-one-year-old so i relate to that. like most chowkwallahs (i hate the word ``chowkies``) i thought of eliot and his macavity. plus i imagined topcat and his cronies in their ongoing masti with the fat police-wallah.
having said that i enjoyed the piece (and yes you should absolutely try your hand at getting it published. you may be well familiar with the al-hamra press. i know that they were putting an anthology of short stories and poems together that never saw the light because they were unable to find enough material that was publication-worthy. if you like i can e-mail you a number. its an obvious suggestion for a publisher, but i mention it just in case you havent looked into it.)
but...i personally feel that what a poem says is more important than how it says it as far material for children is concerned. yes, invoking the imagination is essential and it is nice if our children try and relate to heroes called tipu and amna (or duffy-ud-din and bhooki aloo)rather than jack and jill, but for that we have tot batot and countless others i am sure that we have not bothered to explore perhaps. maybe sharing those with our children in a language that is their mother tongue should help bridge the gap. a poem like yours is great but i think it takes a new place, the place of childrens literature in english. i dont think it replaces anything.
do you remember bradford, 1993?
having said that i enjoyed the piece (and yes you should absolutely try your hand at getting it published. you may be well familiar with the al-hamra press. i know that they were putting an anthology of short stories and poems together that never saw the light because they were unable to find enough material that was publication-worthy. if you like i can e-mail you a number. its an obvious suggestion for a publisher, but i mention it just in case you havent looked into it.)
but...i personally feel that what a poem says is more important than how it says it as far material for children is concerned. yes, invoking the imagination is essential and it is nice if our children try and relate to heroes called tipu and amna (or duffy-ud-din and bhooki aloo)rather than jack and jill, but for that we have tot batot and countless others i am sure that we have not bothered to explore perhaps. maybe sharing those with our children in a language that is their mother tongue should help bridge the gap. a poem like yours is great but i think it takes a new place, the place of childrens literature in english. i dont think it replaces anything.
do you remember bradford, 1993?
#35 Posted by soundmeister on January 28, 2004 7:32:03 am
Re- #23 Ansari
Nice to be back dude! Read some of your i-logs (the one with the suicidal youngster stands out). Have decided to try my hand at it too. take a look :)))
Nice to be back dude! Read some of your i-logs (the one with the suicidal youngster stands out). Have decided to try my hand at it too. take a look :)))
#34 Posted by Khusro on January 27, 2004 7:06:58 am
Anybody here read/heard ``Nanni Nazmain Khel Aur Geet`` by Zara Mumtaz published by OUP which comes complete with audio cassette (previously published by Shalimar Recording)? If so, any opinions?
#33 Posted by badbard on January 26, 2004 12:42:15 am
beautiful lovely shandana, what can I say?
of late chowk has been boring, of a pallor that`s gray.
each week i log-in, with fingers a-crossed,
hoping for piece that deserves not to be tossed
in the bin. without much ado.
and then there it is! ! the story of duffy and aalu!
though it bothers me that the poem’s incomplete,
unedited, unbound and unprinted, without illustrations replete.
but i`ll tarry a while to see it printed
and publish you shall, or else you`re demented!!!
the idea, the story, it all rocks ! I truly love it!
don`t waste no time, and quickly send it for an edit!
shandana, you kick ass, good luck and God Bless!
(ps. will you send me an autograph if i give you an address??)
of late chowk has been boring, of a pallor that`s gray.
each week i log-in, with fingers a-crossed,
hoping for piece that deserves not to be tossed
in the bin. without much ado.
and then there it is! ! the story of duffy and aalu!
though it bothers me that the poem’s incomplete,
unedited, unbound and unprinted, without illustrations replete.
but i`ll tarry a while to see it printed
and publish you shall, or else you`re demented!!!
the idea, the story, it all rocks ! I truly love it!
don`t waste no time, and quickly send it for an edit!
shandana, you kick ass, good luck and God Bless!
(ps. will you send me an autograph if i give you an address??)
#32 Posted by ZahraJ on January 24, 2004 9:46:00 pm
#31: Not only Sufi Tabassum but Maqbool Jahangir was also one of Ferozson`s favorites. I agree with you on your comment about his work. Did he also write Toat Batoat ? Well, I was ready to buy ``Daes Daes Kee Kahaniyaan`` again this time and had to literally hold the reigns. Despite the fact that one should not judge a book by its cover, but once you have gone through that book several times even the cover can make you fall in love with the book. I do not remember the exact stories or the countries the book highlights...I just remember I had lovely memories of this book. And for many many years, I kept the said book under my pillow - often times wondering when it will start flying. :)
#31 Posted by chusni on January 23, 2004 11:30:59 pm
ZahraJ:
Sufi Tabbassums lullabies and nursery rhymes are superb and amply available. Iran and former USSR print the highest quality of childrens` books--even in urdu.
There is no need (market) for english nursery rhymes in Pakistan or abroad. Vanity publications gather dust in basements. Paki ammaNs always prefer `faaarin` (angraiz)stuff so that the kid can say mama with the propper texan yahoo drawl .
Sufi Tabbassums lullabies and nursery rhymes are superb and amply available. Iran and former USSR print the highest quality of childrens` books--even in urdu.
There is no need (market) for english nursery rhymes in Pakistan or abroad. Vanity publications gather dust in basements. Paki ammaNs always prefer `faaarin` (angraiz)stuff so that the kid can say mama with the propper texan yahoo drawl .
#30 Posted by ZahraJ on January 23, 2004 6:06:16 pm
On another note: Something like, Garfield, would look real cute for the artwork.
I was amazed to find ``Daes Daes Kee Kahaniyaan`` published by Feroz Sons still alive and living at their local outlet in Lahore. I have repurchased this book so many times for the way it is narrated and the magical ambience it creates. A must read book even for the adults!
My suggestion will be to consult a local publisher or Ferozsons. Also, if you are adamant to proceed you can disregard the publishers who are averse to your creative effort. The other important aspect will be to checkout the local daycare centers or interview at least 20 - 30 mothers with toddlers and get their take. Kind of analyze how your audience feels and responds....
I was amazed to find ``Daes Daes Kee Kahaniyaan`` published by Feroz Sons still alive and living at their local outlet in Lahore. I have repurchased this book so many times for the way it is narrated and the magical ambience it creates. A must read book even for the adults!
My suggestion will be to consult a local publisher or Ferozsons. Also, if you are adamant to proceed you can disregard the publishers who are averse to your creative effort. The other important aspect will be to checkout the local daycare centers or interview at least 20 - 30 mothers with toddlers and get their take. Kind of analyze how your audience feels and responds....
#29 Posted by chusni on January 23, 2004 2:36:49 pm
ali-1:25
Dr. SooSoo, Here comes chusni:
Cats dream of tomcats, and dream of mice
when they get `em often, feline really nice
Dr. SooSoo, Here comes chusni:
Cats dream of tomcats, and dream of mice
when they get `em often, feline really nice
#28 Posted by Saminasha on January 23, 2004 9:27:05 am
Also, to that end:
Asian American Writers Workshop
Poets and Writers
are two institutions that might be checked out to see how work has been shopped around or self published.
Asian American Writers Workshop
Poets and Writers
are two institutions that might be checked out to see how work has been shopped around or self published.
#27 Posted by Saminasha on January 23, 2004 9:24:29 am
My suggestion is that you also try and see if Pakistani-Americans/South Asian American printing presses/publishers would be interested in this concept. Shandana`s book would be the first of many, ideally. There really is a dearth of books about the subcontinent written by desi writers-in any organized manner, but there is an audience for them. To back up Bina`s point, we are often looking for books for nieces and nephew that have familiar cultural references, but it takes some legwork. If SA-Americans know that there is a growing body of such work directed at children and have a way of ordering through email, etc., a press could do well.
#26 Posted by Rakaposh on January 23, 2004 9:06:59 am
If its for the local kids and to replace the ususal Ba Ba black sheep etc....I would actually like to see the urdu version of it....
#24 Posted by FarzanaVersey on January 23, 2004 6:41:50 am
Shandana:
The moment I read this, I found it so visual... ANIMATION, I felt. A smart short flick. If you need a voice-over for Bhooki Aloo, according to reliable sources I convey `hunger` well! Not too bad at purring either;)
The moment I read this, I found it so visual... ANIMATION, I felt. A smart short flick. If you need a voice-over for Bhooki Aloo, according to reliable sources I convey `hunger` well! Not too bad at purring either;)
#23 Posted by Ansari on January 23, 2004 5:56:11 am
Soundmeister,
Hi, how`ve you been? Long time no see . . . kahan ghayab thay aap? :o)
Aamir
Hi, how`ve you been? Long time no see . . . kahan ghayab thay aap? :o)
Aamir
#22 Posted by soundmeister on January 23, 2004 5:23:38 am
Hey Slink,
For a while there I thought this was some kind of parable and was desperately trying to put human faces on the cats
was pretty sure your bhooki aloo was benazir, but somehow couldn`t picture duffy-ud-din (adorable name that!)
glad to know it`s a kiddo book!
Was this only the first part? seemed a little incomplete
for that matter most kids` bookd lack closure
maybe that`s just an adult concept then
My nephews read absolute crap. Mostly Tazo/Pokemon cards and WWE vital stats. My bachpan ke Enid Blytons gathering dust in the library. Kids don`t know what they miss. I must`ve read ``Don`t Be Silly Mr. Twiddle`` thousands of times between ages 6 and 10.
Good initiative.
For a while there I thought this was some kind of parable and was desperately trying to put human faces on the cats
was pretty sure your bhooki aloo was benazir, but somehow couldn`t picture duffy-ud-din (adorable name that!)
glad to know it`s a kiddo book!
Was this only the first part? seemed a little incomplete
for that matter most kids` bookd lack closure
maybe that`s just an adult concept then
My nephews read absolute crap. Mostly Tazo/Pokemon cards and WWE vital stats. My bachpan ke Enid Blytons gathering dust in the library. Kids don`t know what they miss. I must`ve read ``Don`t Be Silly Mr. Twiddle`` thousands of times between ages 6 and 10.
Good initiative.
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