Carnage in Karachi

since something going on about newspapers here:

i read somewhere on the net (dont have the reference) that the total circulation of english newspapers in pakistan is less than the circulation of english papers in delhi. how true is this??

omar_r_quraishi #104
One has to wonder what sort of democracy Gen. Musharraf is claiming to have established when it cannot accomodate a leader with largish mass base.

And how the heck does a state manage to deport its own citizens?

ps:

...some additional and personal comments if i may:

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omar:

...rec`d your email and was going to respond by email...but since you have reproduced it here...i think a reply here would be beneficial....see the Detailed InterAct Guidelines above the submission box?...that should answer your queries...

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veeresh

did you have a sex-change operation during your recent visit to Pakistan or did you visit Peshawar. What the hell is with this ``Ji`` business. Its annoying.

Omar # 116 - and I hope you do not assume that I am Temporal Bhai`s ADC, though that is not a bad idea either.

From the ``Interact`` guidelines at The Chowk, to which, inspite of having differences of opinions with you, I think many welcome your presence. And please do not view this as patronising, either, but the fact that you arrive with your real name is reason enough to welcome you.

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As for your query, I, as just another Chowkie, feel that this website is as much yours as it is anybody else`s.

Vaise, if you don`t mind my saying so ji, is this business of acting and writing basis ``assumptions`` your personal forte or is it policy at Dawn? Just asking.

stuka #109 You should know that Romair is the official newspaper reader of Gen. Musharaff. He can speed read at the rate of 6,300 NPH (Newspapers Per Hour), which is over 9 times the speed of sound. He can speed write at a similar dizzying speed as well. So it takes him about 1 hour every day to read his newspapers and write to chowk as well. And you thought he was just your ordinary run-of-the-mill field marshall!

oq #116 ``i assume he is one of the editors of this site ``

I hope you dont make up similar assumptions when writing your dawn articles.

jay #115 I see you managed to escape from the mental asylum again.

stuka #109: ``Jeez!! What kinda job do u have? ``

Good question :-). I can only provide the following answer: One`s work style changes quite a bit, when one starts running one`s own business. Something I didn`t realize earlier. Initially, you are doing everything, from cleaning the coffee pot to writing code, to get things going. After that, you really end up doing one thing: Establishing relationships with clients. Taking them out to lunch, breakfast and dinner, and talking about things they are interested in. Canada, I know about, because I am here, so I don`t read much on it. Pakistan, I read about because I want to set up an office there. However, many of the potential clients are Indian or American. So it is important to know what is going on there. If tomorrow some Indian guy starts talking to me about the impact of Chandrababu Naidu`s defeat on Hyderabad`s IT industry, even though I would have no idea what the real impact would be, I should still be able to throw some articles around that I read in Indian newspapers.......You would be surprised how impressed people are with that......

Finding the culprits,

It is remarkable that pakistanis from tahmed to temporal wants to find out who did the karachi bombing. This comes from the notion that there are good jihadis. If they turn out to be taliban jihadis, they need a lesson in geography, karachi is different from kandahar. If they turn out to be kashmir jijhadis, they have to send back to classes to identify the hindus, if they ar esectoral jihadis, well we have to think about it.
For the whole world, a suicide bomber is well defined, he is a jihadi, he is the product of the madrassa system he is the rpoduct of hatred and as a nation pakistan has to stp the jihadis.
Interestingly from the Omar the dawn editor to the educated tahmed, identifying the killer as a jihadi and moving against all forms of jihad is not good enough. For them there is the good jihad.

The notion of good jihad is so engrained in the psyche. Omar the dawn editor mentioned that kashmir killings are wire reports duly reproduced. No omar, there is a small editorial change, kashmir militants or terrorists are called freediom fighters by dawn. Omar the editor of dawn is unaware, he cannot understand the significance, he is a product of k for kafir education, no difference between a terrorist and freedomfighter as long as those killed are infidals.

this is an email i just sent to temporal sahib -- i assume he is one of the editors of this site -- here it is, i think it`s relevant enough to be posted on this board :


Dear Temporal Sahib (don`t know your real name),

I have one question to ask here. Very basic and very simple. What are your website`s policies regarding hate speech and personal slurs? Is there a written down policy agreed upon by all the editors? If so, could you email me a copy?


Regards,
Omar R. Quraishi
Assistant Editor
Dawn Group of Newspapers,
Haroon House,
Dr Ziauddin Ahmed Road,
Karachi, PAKISTAN
+92-21-5670001

This is what I wrote in my ilogs yesterday.
May 10, 2004

Hit Hard Look Wise

Thats what amatuer golfers and billiard players usually do. This is followed by a flexibility strain in the personality that can make switches whenever the going gets tough or the logic and reasoning get exhausted.

I have seen such authors at chowk of recent. Though Farrukh Khan stuck to his guns regarding the first part of his thesis, Omer Qureishi has been a disappointment. If the article he published was the view of the Dawn Establishment, then he had no business defending it. The Newspaper should have done it or sued him on the copy right.

No one more than the Dawn Group does lead articles on Pakistan, specially through the Herald.Issues of Sectarian Killings, Terrorism and Ethnicity have been their lead articles.Some of the lead writers like Mansur Ijaz and Shaheen Sehbai of SAT have been their prominent writers in the past. He has to just leaf through the archives of his organisation, available online to make 2+2=4 and also lay threadbare why such incidents happen.

This is the contrast between a research analyst and a cut and paste writer. Farrukh and Qureishi represent the two extremes.

Hit hard and look wise. Hum...
Then create a commotion and start rediculing everyone including the tender but brave hearted Noor.
Cheerios

romair # 80 -- and by the way interesting to note that ayaz amir was once a capt. of the pakistan army -- as incidentally were several other critics of the military such as ejaz haider, kamran shafi and (to an extent, as in critic not politically but socially yes) dr tariq rahman --

ralph what kind of life is he leading ? omar saeed sheikh -- well he is in prison ralph -- and i am not aware what kind of relationship he currently enjoys (if at all) with his previous handlers

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arjun #103:

nice deflection;)

i think you know it now that you stand exposed in front of any diligent observer!

good day!