Shiners versus Whiners; it’s Economics, Stupid

Why do guys have to grumble if BJP was booted out by the indian people from power? We have to accept the fact that they lost because the majority of the country did not share their sentiments and claims of having done shining work in distributive justice and providing equitable benefits for greatest number of people across all the classes.
Perhaps their campaign itself was defective- not highlighting the short comings of the state governments in making negative contribution towards the efforts of the central government confused the voters- since every small lapse and ommission on part of the state governments in contributing to the miseries to the man on street was wrongly construed as a refutation of the india shining claims of the NDA.

Still, the best riposte to the India shining campaign was that TV clip which showed an un-employed youth striking down the claim of shining india and then making a resolve -`` Is baar to mujhe hi kuch karna hoga...`` -that sums up the resolve-

Thanks to all the citizens of my country! You are all wise guys, I love you all! Thanks for getting rid of rascals like Yashwant Sinha and Advani from the North and South Blocks! And thanks for NOT giving Sonia a full majority and letting their old rivals -the commies- to keep checks and balances on them!!!

Anil seems to be giving the correct idea.

Romair, here is an example (we see it everyday on Chowk not withstanding your rather naive comments)

Veereesh/arjun_m and farzy_gal/dost_dude are just two sides of the same coin. Flip them you get to see the same story or different stories. But the unerlying facts/themes are the same.

India is steaming ahead and this change is an attempt to get the people lagging behind up to steam.

As they say full steam ahead - congress/left, BJP/right are the two hands of the country and they are both needed to hear the GREAT CLAP OF THUNDER from India.

re: Harish

This was a really interesting article.

Politicans on the whole do tend to ignore the common sense of an average voter. Occasionally, the politicans make a mistake by failing to understand the power of the politics of the stomach. Just like Pakistan is not a collection of a handful of cities, India is not the sum of its many cities. India lives, works and dies in its countless villages.

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Ijaz_Gul #41: ``All this has been well studied and we do not need to re invent the wheel. An economic model built around dictatorships or its various shades is a case of pure economics that concentrates on growth at one hand and leaves out the people at another. It curbs the evolution of a strong civil society and therefore is not sustainable.you talk of Japan, South Korea etc then do not forget the role of IBRD, Marshal Plan and the huge influx of grants and Aid from the West``

Could you point me to some studies on this.....

I don`t think aid is the deciding factor in all of this. Neither is the dictatorship. In fact, most dictatorships lead to ruin, hence this is obviously unsafe as a long term phenomenon. But it is an undeniable fact that countries that have pursued elections, have and are, taking a long time to get out of the third world. While the ones that have gotten out, have had efficient civilian or military dictatorships. One cannot deny this reality. It doesn`t justify dictatorships, but it should be anlayzed.

Pakistan has received a lot of aid. Marshall Plans went to Germany, not to Hong Kong and Malaysia. Japan is a different story. It was not a third-world country. But what about China and Singapore and Taiwan etc. There economies certainly are not leaving out anyone. The average citizen of these countries is far wealthier than the average citizen of South Asia. In some cases upto ten to twenty times as wealth. And they have a much stronger and sustainable society.

I think economic policies and human rights have to be given as much importance as democracy and elections, when evaluating govts; specifically in case of third world countries. The former have much more weight in creating a civil society than democracy or elections do. In fact, the whole purpose of holding elections and having democracy is to get to the end goal of high economic standard and human rights for citizens. These are the end goals, while elections are just a means of getting there.

If the end goal is not being achieved, then the means require a re-think, in the case of third world countries, to try to figure out what is wrong. Just because something works in Germany and Lichtenstein, does not automatically mean, it will work in South Asia......

Talbott Ian, ``Inventing a Nation``
Hassan Gardezi, ``Pakistan, the Unstable State``
Suggest go look up some libraries and do some reading.
Its otherwise pointless to discuss.
My interact at #47 is far more important.

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Ballukhan:

I am happy that Manmohan Singh is the PM. I did not want Sonia as PM. Basically, the Gandhi family presides over the Congress party by bringing out the worst sentiments of Iindians. No doubt, BJP does the same. But Vajpayee was a statesman. But Manmohan is PM so that is all good.

Now, in fact, the only thing I am unhappy about is what you seem to celebrate. The rise of leftists. Hmm, I don`t know what your economic agenda is but I would be surprised if you like Leftists agenda.

Anyways, I am also surprised that u are happy about Yashwant Sinha and Advani being kicked out? Why? The one I am happy about being kicked out is that idiot MM Joshi. Yashwant Sinha did a tolerably fine job as foreign minister tho he was no patch on Jaswant Singh.

I really am missing something. Why is Murli Manohar Joshi being called names? He doesn`t seem any worse than your average indian politician.Please don`t tell me it`s about the IIMs feeling threatened. Like they`re so important that everyone has sinister designs on them.What are they, the KGB?

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astrology in IITs???

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astrology in IITs???]

Can you tell me which IIT offers a course in Astrology? Is it one subject, or is it a major for a BTech, MTech or even PhD?

If you do not have facts to back up your statement, you should withdraw it instead of repeating mindlessly the propaganda of the Left.

While you are at it, would you demand that the BUMS degree course (Bachelor of Unani Medical System) should be withdrawn from various universities? Or do you believe that it is okay for Indian Muslims to have medical care based on no provable scientific principles?

There`s BUMS and BAMS..I think if these are traditional systems of medicine, they do deserve a trial before we decide they`re no good.
Equally, I think if people what to study Vedic mathematics at university, they should be able to do so. You can do a Bachelors in Jewish studies at many universities-not in India, of course. You should be able to do papers on the Koran, and again I think you can at some American universities. You can study theology at Oxford. What is wrong with studying the Vedas? I`m not so sure about astrology, but how do we say it doesn`t work if we don`t study it? I have been told some really spooky stuff by people who couldn`t possibly know. There have been papers in the British Medical Journal about complementary medicine, including massage and aromatherapy. How do we find anything new and keep a knowledge base going if we don`t study it? Being a scientist is all about keeping an open mind.
Astrology isn`t at the IITs though. That I`m sure of!
Why do we need to look down on indigenous knowledge? Arundhati Roy talks about respecting tribal knowledge-why not also respect ayurvedic principles that are thousands of years old? Why do we need to think our ancestors were so clueless? Isn`t that a product of a colonised mind? It doesn`t surprise me that Marxists do this so well because Marx himself thought India needed colonisation and the British were good for India. Of course, the CPM doesn`t announce this when it goes campaigning...