Aman Malik May 18, 2004
#11 Posted by dost_mittar on May 18, 2004 7:12:16 am
temporal:
``Smart choice or forced upon her by the stock market debacle?``
If knowing one`s weaknesses means being smart, then Sonia Gandhi is indeed smart. I think that Sonia does not believe that she is qualified for the job of the PM. And she is probably right. A PM has to perform in the Lok Sabha. Her performance in the Lok Sabha as the Leader of the Opposition was pathetic. Imagine how she would have performed as the PM. Prepared texts do not work in that cruel theatre of the absurd. People like Vajpayee and Advani would have made a mince-meat of her during the question hour. Being a prime minister would have meant daily humiliation for Sonia.
But I have mixed feelings about anyone else being the PM. Anyone else would know that he is really there at the mercy of Sonia Gandhi and can be removed if he acted independently or tried to develop a power base of his own, instead of just keeping the gaddi warm for Rahul or Priyanka to be ready.
I am afraid that we may not end up with a Jamali in India?
``Smart choice or forced upon her by the stock market debacle?``
If knowing one`s weaknesses means being smart, then Sonia Gandhi is indeed smart. I think that Sonia does not believe that she is qualified for the job of the PM. And she is probably right. A PM has to perform in the Lok Sabha. Her performance in the Lok Sabha as the Leader of the Opposition was pathetic. Imagine how she would have performed as the PM. Prepared texts do not work in that cruel theatre of the absurd. People like Vajpayee and Advani would have made a mince-meat of her during the question hour. Being a prime minister would have meant daily humiliation for Sonia.
But I have mixed feelings about anyone else being the PM. Anyone else would know that he is really there at the mercy of Sonia Gandhi and can be removed if he acted independently or tried to develop a power base of his own, instead of just keeping the gaddi warm for Rahul or Priyanka to be ready.
I am afraid that we may not end up with a Jamali in India?
#10 Posted by temporal on May 18, 2004 6:41:24 am
Sonia plays the other Gandhi?
Mahatma Gandhi could have chosen any post in independent India. He chose not to. Instead he preferred to remain a king maker.
Sonia’s decision to recommend Manmohan Singh and Pranab Mukherjee appears as a well thought out decision. By retaining full control of Congress she would be a king-maker, groom rahul and priyanka, and deflect any political difficulties and ward of criticism against her foreign-ness.
Smart choice or forced upon her by the stock market debacle?
Mahatma Gandhi could have chosen any post in independent India. He chose not to. Instead he preferred to remain a king maker.
Sonia’s decision to recommend Manmohan Singh and Pranab Mukherjee appears as a well thought out decision. By retaining full control of Congress she would be a king-maker, groom rahul and priyanka, and deflect any political difficulties and ward of criticism against her foreign-ness.
Smart choice or forced upon her by the stock market debacle?
#9 Posted by khotasikka on May 18, 2004 6:19:23 am
This entire argument about Sonia being a foreigner is spurious.
If she holds an Indian passport and resides in India, she is Indian. Birth is an accident - nobody here chose to be born Indian. But once you have the ability to choose, you should be respected for having made that choice. When we start talking about her foreign origin, what we are saying at a very basic level is that all Indians are not equal. Some are more equal than others. How Orwellian can one get ?
Once we start making distinctions between natural Indians and naturalized Indians, we essentially are creating first class and second class categories. And that is a fundamental violation of the constitution which says that all Indians are equal regardless of religion, race, caste or creed.
If we have such a problem with foreigners and we are so insecure as a nation, we should never have given her Indian citizenship in the first place. Just grant her a permanent residence permit or something. But once she has acquired Indian citizenship, nobody has any business to go about this first class/second class Indian nonsense. How soon before you start saying that the guys from the north east are not eligible because of their asiatic race or the guys from the south are not truly Indian because they are darker and so on.
If she holds an Indian passport and resides in India, she is Indian. Birth is an accident - nobody here chose to be born Indian. But once you have the ability to choose, you should be respected for having made that choice. When we start talking about her foreign origin, what we are saying at a very basic level is that all Indians are not equal. Some are more equal than others. How Orwellian can one get ?
Once we start making distinctions between natural Indians and naturalized Indians, we essentially are creating first class and second class categories. And that is a fundamental violation of the constitution which says that all Indians are equal regardless of religion, race, caste or creed.
If we have such a problem with foreigners and we are so insecure as a nation, we should never have given her Indian citizenship in the first place. Just grant her a permanent residence permit or something. But once she has acquired Indian citizenship, nobody has any business to go about this first class/second class Indian nonsense. How soon before you start saying that the guys from the north east are not eligible because of their asiatic race or the guys from the south are not truly Indian because they are darker and so on.
#7 Posted by whippinzed on May 18, 2004 6:19:23 am
I wouldnt worry about it nazarhayatkhan #1. Veereesh/arjun_m and farzy_gal/dost_dude are just two sides of the same coin. Flip them you get to see the same story or different stories. But the unerlying facts/themes are the same.
India is steaming ahead and this change is an attempt to get the people lagging behind up to steam.
As they say full steam ahead - congress/left, BJP/right are the two hands of the country and they are both needed to hear the GREAT CLAP OF THUNDER from India.
India is steaming ahead and this change is an attempt to get the people lagging behind up to steam.
As they say full steam ahead - congress/left, BJP/right are the two hands of the country and they are both needed to hear the GREAT CLAP OF THUNDER from India.
#6 Posted by ballukhan on May 18, 2004 6:19:23 am
Can`t we have something less drab than this article??
#5 Posted by jay on May 18, 2004 6:18:58 am
Rise of the illiterate,
At last the election has shown the dark side of india, the role of the illiterate, the role of the cow belt. The illiterate of india who have no idea of any objective reality have elected a party that believes in heriditory. The people who voted are the ones who beleive that the leadership qualities are heriditary, in this case they ahev gone to the extend that heriditory is not through the genes, it can even be transferred through marriage.
The pathetic illiterates and their leaders who cannot stake any claim for leadership, who have no leadership qualities have given to the widow of a once leader. This is the darkest day for india, return of the days when the UP and bihar decided the ruling party, the days when the leader came from allahabd.
This is the rise of the illiterate who supported indira gandhi who created dictaorshi because of a court ruling. No wonder pakistanis who celebrated mushys take over are overjoyed by the rise of sonia. It is the same mindset, where greatness has to be heriditory, like YLH claiming that his geesis can be traced to the prophet himself. Despite the education, like pakistanis, the ones who voted sonia to power, has to claim the hereditory reasons as the supreme.
BJP honoured the courts, respected the independance of the election commission and above all put to practice electronicn voting which many of the so called developed countries are still struggling with.
There is talk of sonia as PM and her son as the congress party president. There are times when one is ashamed to be an indian, and this is one of them. Rise of the illiterate. I do hopw that this govt collapses soon, and I hope the maexists from kerala will do that.
At last the election has shown the dark side of india, the role of the illiterate, the role of the cow belt. The illiterate of india who have no idea of any objective reality have elected a party that believes in heriditory. The people who voted are the ones who beleive that the leadership qualities are heriditary, in this case they ahev gone to the extend that heriditory is not through the genes, it can even be transferred through marriage.
The pathetic illiterates and their leaders who cannot stake any claim for leadership, who have no leadership qualities have given to the widow of a once leader. This is the darkest day for india, return of the days when the UP and bihar decided the ruling party, the days when the leader came from allahabd.
This is the rise of the illiterate who supported indira gandhi who created dictaorshi because of a court ruling. No wonder pakistanis who celebrated mushys take over are overjoyed by the rise of sonia. It is the same mindset, where greatness has to be heriditory, like YLH claiming that his geesis can be traced to the prophet himself. Despite the education, like pakistanis, the ones who voted sonia to power, has to claim the hereditory reasons as the supreme.
BJP honoured the courts, respected the independance of the election commission and above all put to practice electronicn voting which many of the so called developed countries are still struggling with.
There is talk of sonia as PM and her son as the congress party president. There are times when one is ashamed to be an indian, and this is one of them. Rise of the illiterate. I do hopw that this govt collapses soon, and I hope the maexists from kerala will do that.
#4 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on May 18, 2004 6:18:56 am
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#3 Posted by Faruk on May 18, 2004 6:18:55 am
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#2 Posted by Faruk on May 18, 2004 6:18:55 am
Re : nazarhayatkhan # 1
I think the TV channels still have it wrong. Its just a swing of 2% of votes that changed the results in India. The biggest blow was the loss in AP. As much as I hate the BJP I must say that they did great things for the Indian economy. The Indian per capita income has grown over 20% under BJP rule.
Regards,
Faruk
I think the TV channels still have it wrong. Its just a swing of 2% of votes that changed the results in India. The biggest blow was the loss in AP. As much as I hate the BJP I must say that they did great things for the Indian economy. The Indian per capita income has grown over 20% under BJP rule.
Regards,
Faruk
#1 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 18, 2004 12:47:17 am
It is surprising how the International TV channels suddenly changed their tone the very next day.
They were suddenly talking about the farmers, or how only 15% of the population had benefitted from the recent growth, or how few hundred million still lived below the poverty line.
The BJP Government had indeed succesfully conveyed its message and had convinced most of the ordinary TV viewers like us about its achievements.
But Dost-Mitter and Farzana did once in while give us a peep into the other side of the story.
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