Aman Malik May 18, 2004
#17 Posted by Faruk on May 18, 2004 9:58:00 am
Re : jay # 5
“At last the election has shown the dark side of india, the role of the illiterate, the role of the cow belt. The illiterate of india who have no idea of any objective reality have elected a party that believes in heriditory”
First of all the cow belt did not vote for the congress the south Indians did. Take a look
http://www.eci.gov.in/images/Maps/English/India.jpg
Other than that there is just a 2% swing in votes that changes the party in power. So I think trying to analyze the results is futile.
Faruk
“At last the election has shown the dark side of india, the role of the illiterate, the role of the cow belt. The illiterate of india who have no idea of any objective reality have elected a party that believes in heriditory”
First of all the cow belt did not vote for the congress the south Indians did. Take a look
http://www.eci.gov.in/images/Maps/English/India.jpg
Other than that there is just a 2% swing in votes that changes the party in power. So I think trying to analyze the results is futile.
Faruk
#18 Posted by mohar11 on May 18, 2004 9:58:01 am
DM
//...I am afraid that we may not end up with a Jamali in India? ...//
Well - not really. If Manmohan Singh becomes PM - he will be OK ( even though there will a leash of some sort around his neck) because he is already so well-known and well-respected politician. Unlike Jamali - Singh is a leader of his own standing.
But - only time will tell.
//...I am afraid that we may not end up with a Jamali in India? ...//
Well - not really. If Manmohan Singh becomes PM - he will be OK ( even though there will a leash of some sort around his neck) because he is already so well-known and well-respected politician. Unlike Jamali - Singh is a leader of his own standing.
But - only time will tell.
#19 Posted by sadna on May 18, 2004 9:58:19 am
Lakshdweep has 39,003 voters. 15,597 voted for the winner, 15,526 voted for PM Sayeed.
#20 Posted by kaurasach on May 18, 2004 9:58:19 am
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#21 Posted by PunjabiZulu on May 18, 2004 9:58:19 am
Looks like we may have all spoken too soon and that we may be having our first Sikh Prime Minister instead
#22 Posted by mumbaikar on May 18, 2004 11:10:10 am
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#23 Posted by indiajourno on May 18, 2004 11:10:10 am
sadna,
you are right with the figures... i am sorry for the mistake
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you are right with the figures... i am sorry for the mistake
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#24 Posted by indiajourno on May 18, 2004 11:10:10 am
hi all,
i must admit that the context in which this article had been written has significantly changed...
sonia would no longer be the PM...the piece was a wee bit early...
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i must admit that the context in which this article had been written has significantly changed...
sonia would no longer be the PM...the piece was a wee bit early...
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#25 Posted by kaurasach on May 18, 2004 11:10:10 am
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#26 Posted by dost_mittar on May 18, 2004 2:28:09 pm
mohar11:
``Well - not really. If Manmohan Singh becomes PM - he will be OK ( even though there will a leash of some sort around his neck) because he is already so well-known and well-respected politician.``
Unfortunately, we have been through this exercise before. When Rajiv died, the Congress people wanted to make Sonia their leader. She chose instead a family faithful, Narsimha Rao, to be the PM. He was chosen over stronger candidates like Pawar and Arjun Singh because he was thought not to have any power base of his own, even in his native Andhra. And soon, there were manipulations with Rao trying to act independently and Sonia supporting people like Arjun Singh. This was the backdrop to the Hawala scandal. Rao and Sonia hardly spoke to each other until recently.
Back then, Sonia was merely a widow. Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party. So, she is much stronger now than she was before.
kaurasach#22:
``It is doubtful that his PMship will bring any good or justice to the anti sikh riots.``
It should not make any difference to the Sikhs. He should be expected to bring justice to people for the anti-sikh and Gujarat riots not because he is a sikh but because he will be the PM.
``Well - not really. If Manmohan Singh becomes PM - he will be OK ( even though there will a leash of some sort around his neck) because he is already so well-known and well-respected politician.``
Unfortunately, we have been through this exercise before. When Rajiv died, the Congress people wanted to make Sonia their leader. She chose instead a family faithful, Narsimha Rao, to be the PM. He was chosen over stronger candidates like Pawar and Arjun Singh because he was thought not to have any power base of his own, even in his native Andhra. And soon, there were manipulations with Rao trying to act independently and Sonia supporting people like Arjun Singh. This was the backdrop to the Hawala scandal. Rao and Sonia hardly spoke to each other until recently.
Back then, Sonia was merely a widow. Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party. So, she is much stronger now than she was before.
kaurasach#22:
``It is doubtful that his PMship will bring any good or justice to the anti sikh riots.``
It should not make any difference to the Sikhs. He should be expected to bring justice to people for the anti-sikh and Gujarat riots not because he is a sikh but because he will be the PM.
#27 Posted by mumbaikar on May 18, 2004 2:30:32 pm
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#28 Posted by mohar11 on May 18, 2004 4:35:07 pm
DM
//.... Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party...//
Yes - and hence she has more confidence. So my feeling is - she would NOT seek to meddle too much in the gov`t affairs. I mean - she has proved to be NOT power-hungry - otherwise she wouldn`t give up the PMship.
Singh being a family loyalist also makes her more comfortable. Like she said - her primary concern is preserving secularism. And at this point I will take her word for it. In that case - she wouldn`t meddle too much in economic policies of the gov`t. And that`s all we want - that Singh, the PM gets a wide berth for implementing an effective economic agenda.
SOmehow I am optimistic that Sonia would a play a constructive role.
//.... Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party...//
Yes - and hence she has more confidence. So my feeling is - she would NOT seek to meddle too much in the gov`t affairs. I mean - she has proved to be NOT power-hungry - otherwise she wouldn`t give up the PMship.
Singh being a family loyalist also makes her more comfortable. Like she said - her primary concern is preserving secularism. And at this point I will take her word for it. In that case - she wouldn`t meddle too much in economic policies of the gov`t. And that`s all we want - that Singh, the PM gets a wide berth for implementing an effective economic agenda.
SOmehow I am optimistic that Sonia would a play a constructive role.
#29 Posted by arjun_m on May 18, 2004 4:35:08 pm
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#30 Posted by silly on May 18, 2004 8:55:59 pm
``Unfortunately, we have been through this exercise before. When Rajiv died, the Congress people wanted to make Sonia their leader. She chose instead a family faithful, Narsimha Rao, to be the PM. He was chosen over stronger candidates like Pawar and Arjun Singh because he was thought not to have any power base of his own, even in his native Andhra. And soon, there were manipulations with Rao trying to act independently and Sonia supporting people like Arjun Singh. This was the backdrop to the Hawala scandal. Rao and Sonia hardly spoke to each other until recently.
Back then, Sonia was merely a widow. Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party. So, she is much stronger now than she was before. ``
Isn`t it ironic that a person who served the country for some odd 40 yrs had to be chosen by Sonia just because she is the widow of Rajiv Gandhi instead of the Congress MP`s. Congress walas never had a spine and will never have one. All they need is some one from Gandhi family to lead them no matter how stupid and inexperienced they are. Time will come when these shameless Congress MPs who are in their 60`s and 70`s touching the feet of Rahul/Priyanka Gandhi.
In my opinion PVNR is the best thing happened to India in the last 30yrs though there was lot of corruption along with Vajpayee. He is the one who brought Manmohan Singh into cabinet and gave green light for economic liberalization which spawned the current growth rates. Peace came to Assam and Punjab only during his time. Today no congress wala acknowledges his contribuitions. Alas, if only he is PVNG (PVN Gandhi).
Anyday i will have a PVNR as PM than the incompetent yet honest VP Singh.
Back then, Sonia was merely a widow. Now, she has established herself as the party president as well as winning an election for the party. So, she is much stronger now than she was before. ``
Isn`t it ironic that a person who served the country for some odd 40 yrs had to be chosen by Sonia just because she is the widow of Rajiv Gandhi instead of the Congress MP`s. Congress walas never had a spine and will never have one. All they need is some one from Gandhi family to lead them no matter how stupid and inexperienced they are. Time will come when these shameless Congress MPs who are in their 60`s and 70`s touching the feet of Rahul/Priyanka Gandhi.
In my opinion PVNR is the best thing happened to India in the last 30yrs though there was lot of corruption along with Vajpayee. He is the one who brought Manmohan Singh into cabinet and gave green light for economic liberalization which spawned the current growth rates. Peace came to Assam and Punjab only during his time. Today no congress wala acknowledges his contribuitions. Alas, if only he is PVNG (PVN Gandhi).
Anyday i will have a PVNR as PM than the incompetent yet honest VP Singh.
#31 Posted by mog on May 19, 2004 6:55:46 am
We should have inherited rather Laloo Prasad Yadav like the prime minister? It is apparent cosí to all looking at the television that the tongue of body of Sounds Gandhi and its children changed absolutely after the visit to the President. Now we will do in Indian siede and it looks at the return of the storm of chivalry of soldiers like the Congress of Youth goes about its common business.
#32 Posted by mohar11 on May 19, 2004 6:55:47 am
silly
//...Isn`t it ironic that a person who served the country for some odd 40 yrs had to be chosen by Sonia just because she is the widow of Rajiv Gandhi instead of the Congress MP`s. ..//
Yep - that`s how congress party works. Performance doesn`t matter - all that matters is the family. Remember - sheila dikshit was an outcast even after winning the assembly election?
Thousands of loosers are crying themselves silly when Sonia took the right decision. And there are a bunch in chowk too - who will blindly follow her anywhere even if she has not demonstrated any real competency in anything. It`s sick.
//...Isn`t it ironic that a person who served the country for some odd 40 yrs had to be chosen by Sonia just because she is the widow of Rajiv Gandhi instead of the Congress MP`s. ..//
Yep - that`s how congress party works. Performance doesn`t matter - all that matters is the family. Remember - sheila dikshit was an outcast even after winning the assembly election?
Thousands of loosers are crying themselves silly when Sonia took the right decision. And there are a bunch in chowk too - who will blindly follow her anywhere even if she has not demonstrated any real competency in anything. It`s sick.
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