Sonia Gandhi and the Coming of Age of the Indian Nation

Mr sapra,
I am amused. It just struck me that it must have been people of your ilk who could have allowed the british a free run all over india as well as been a member of their Indian Civil Service .After all thge British gave us the Postal system, railways,governance,civilization...

Sonia Gandhi has definately become a controversial character in Indian Politics and her history as an Italian should not be of any concern right now as our own Benazir Bhutto was not a Pakistani and still is not Pakistani. I think Sonia is better than BB for 2 reasons, she married Rajiv and decided to stay in India and during the time she was facing hardship she decided to stay back and face the Music of Indian Politics. Plus, her decision not to accept Prime Ministership is commendable as it shows her respect for the Indian Constitution, which clearly states no Foreign born person shall be the PM.. What do you say about that....India I envy you in every respect....

“#57 by sadna on May 23, 2004 1:32pm PT
”btw, Jagdish Tytler actually led the mobs which burnt innocent people. He is now a minister in the Union Cabinet.

Why no statement of protest from Paki or Indian liberals? Have you all gone hiding under tables somewhere?”

I am a Pakistani born “Liberal”. I also have a certificate to that effect, just in case somebody is interested!
I had never heard of this guy Jagdish Tytler before. Now that I know he is bad-I condemn the congress sarkar for including him in the cabinet.

Ref dost-mittar #67

[rsridhar:
``Money so generated has to be equitably distributed to the poor through polcies aimed at benefitting the poor. That is what i meant by ``free market with socialism``.``

That`s what I thought you meant. It`s generally called a welfare society.]

So tell us, what IS the incentive for the poor to get off their sorry butts and do something for themselves?

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rsridhar:
``Money so generated has to be equitably distributed to the poor through polcies aimed at benefitting the poor. That is what i meant by ``free market with socialism``.``

That`s what I thought you meant. It`s generally called a welfare society.

harimau #64
``My designation, if I recall correctly, called you a hand-wringing Hindu apologizing for not having enough daughters and sisters to be raped by Islamic thugs.

This is just to set the record straight. ``

By all means let us set the record straight. We know who and how many were killed in Godhra and by whom.

Now let us set the record straight on what happened afterward.

How many daughters and sisters have you and your sexually-deprived friends in VHP/BJP raped, harimau? How many women and children did you pour petrol over and burn? How many surviving women are you now refusing FIRs and compensation to ?

How many children have you orphaned harimau?

I know a school in Maharashtra which is now sheltering the Gujarat orphans who saw their sisters and mothers raped and killed, tell me how many more have you orphaned, harimou?

Let us set the record straight on this.

Ref sadna #58

[harimau #56
That was your designation, not mine. If you insist on judging me wrong repeatedly that is not my problem.]

My designation, if I recall correctly, called you a hand-wringing Hindu apologizing for not having enough daughters and sisters to be raped by Islamic thugs.

This is just to set the record straight.

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re: #59 by dost-mittar
DM ji,
This is what i wrote:
``India`s very existence rests on the tripod of secularism, democracy and socialism (with an increasing share of free market nowadays).``

Free market is essential to unleash the potential of each person according to his/her talent and generate money. Money so generated has to be equitably distributed to the poor through polcies aimed at benefitting the poor. That is what i meant by ``free market with socialism``. While generating money is the job of individual entrepreuners, MNCs and the big industrialists, distributing it equitably (at least trying to do so) is government`s job.
Sridhar

re:#57 by sadna
Sadnaji,
I hope u realize that India is a democracy but not an ``enlightened democracy``.
That is why people elect ``popular leaders`` without questioning their credentials.
We have Lalloo Yadav who has some criminal cases pending against him in court and one of his muslim colleagues who is actually a political goon. Then we have some ``Purana Paapis`` like AR Antulay, Sharad Pawar etc back on the political saddle.
India has miles to go before it is in the same league as Western democracies.
Sridhar

Ref nb #40

[I see your point, harimau, ......]

How come not one Commie/Leftie/Pakistani had any comment?

How would the frikking Leftists of India have reacted if Rajiv Gandhi had married an American? Would they support a US-born white woman for Prime Minister of India? How would they reconcile their reflexive anti-US stand with an American becoming India`s prime minister? How about the security implications of that when the US still refuses to recognize India as a nuclear weapons state and wants India to get rid of her weapons and hand over har cache of plutonium to the US?

After all, didn`t India take over Sikkim when it decided it would no longer tolerate that American woman Hope Cooke and her antics as the Queen of Sikkim?

All of you Indians claiming that it is perfectly okay for Sonia to become the Prime Minister, why don`t you answer my question about a Pakistani woman or an American woman becoming the Prime Minister of India? Cat got your tongue, you frikking idiots?

[Now, does anyone know why the authorities in the US questioned Rahul? Did it have something to do with the Colombian link?]

The facts will never come out. It will all be used to blackmail Rahul when he becomes the Prime Minister (another thing to remember when you all clamor for Rahul to become the PM of India). The US maintains a file on every person who ever came into the US and the file never gets destroyed.

If you are in the US, you can try obtaining the file under the Freedom of Information Act. You won`t get it until after Rajiv dies.... because only Rajiv can ask to see his file while he is alive.... you can ask after his death for studying the history of US-Indian relations...even then it will be censored.

Any of you who thinks I am paranoid just have to find out what info was maintained on John F. Kennedy by the FBI to know the truth.

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varanasi on the eve of holi is to be totally avoided by ``decent`` women.
there is an extremely raunchy kavi-sammelan on the ghats which is paradoxically a must-see. wonder if up tourism promotes this.

rsridhar:
Did you say that India`s very existence rests on socialism? The country, then, is doomed unless you have some weird definition of socialism!

rsridhar #55
``Pak never claimed itself to be a secular nation. ``
Yet they lecture Indians on secularism and pluralism day in and day out. That is called shameless hypocrisy.

harimau #56
That was your designation, not mine. If you insist on judging me wrong repeatedly that is not my problem.

btw, Jagdish Tytler actually led the mobs which burnt innocent people. He is now a minister in the Union Cabinet.

Why no statement of protest from Paki or Indian liberals ? Have you all gone hiding under tables somewhere ?