Nazar Khan May 25, 2004
#35 Posted by aslam644 on May 26, 2004 7:22:35 pm
nazar hayat khan
i throughly enjoyed reading this article, i am sure the plain english campaign in Britain would have been proud of this article. no disrespect to veeresh but his writing is so complicated sometimes i struggle to make sense of it, may be he thinks in punjabi/hindi and writes in english. i am sure my english teacher would have had a field day with his english.
i throughly enjoyed reading this article, i am sure the plain english campaign in Britain would have been proud of this article. no disrespect to veeresh but his writing is so complicated sometimes i struggle to make sense of it, may be he thinks in punjabi/hindi and writes in english. i am sure my english teacher would have had a field day with his english.
#34 Posted by hamzan on May 26, 2004 12:39:26 pm
Ref: Romair
I have always wondered what is wrong with this person who not-so-seldom submit rather good quality posts.
Finally, I have got the answer. Here comes my expert psychoanalysis.
Romair is basically not as an idiot as many people over here seem to believe. On the contrary, I would assert, he is quite a good person at heart but suffers of severe guilty consciousness. And in order to soothe his spiritual qualms he keeps on chanting his classical mantra of poor salaries in the forces and his enormous success in the Silicon Valley.
Let me elaborate.
He joined PAF after his matriculation at the age of 16-17. Pakistan, despite being one of the poorest countries on the face of earth provided him every conceivable facility and luxury. Imagine, at the age of 16-17 when millions of his age fellows were roaming around without any prospect for future he was given 400 – 500 PRs as pocket money to start with (in early 80s) only to study. He was provided with free mess, world-class education free of cost, extremely good medical care – gratis, batman when he was just a shity cadet. Even every sort of dressing was given to him without charging him and his family anything. On top of all this, very decent sports facilities, guaranteed job after graduation.
Gradually, he graduated with a degree in avionics. One day he “realised” that oh, see [very few] people in the civil with compatible academic qualifications are getting more than what he received at the end of month. Which might not be full truth – but that’s another story. He started panga-bazi, got released from the forces, moved to the US. With some luck succeeded in making a few bucks.
Now, he knows very well that there are not many very plausible justifications for his code of conduct. He knows very well that he got every possible out of that poor country and left it the very moment he got a better chance. He feels guilty. Somewhere deep inside him someone keeps on reminding him that Mr, aapis kee baat hai, you are a selfish $ucker.
Now he needs something to get rid of those disturbing thoughts. To do that he keeps on chanting that military officers are not well paid. Their civilian counterparts are better off. He is a super genius – his enormous successes are a proof that Pakistan was too small, too backward for him.
Take his whining out and think for a while what reasons there are for his betrayal. Keep in mind he joined PAF well aware of their salary packages. He exploited it in every conceivable manner. Left it when he could stand on his feet.
I remember watching an American film where to a general betrayal was a far worse crime than a rape. So friends, it is romair’s betrayal that makes him keep on submitting all that nonsense. If he doesn’t do that, he has to admit that he is a namak-haram a$$hole. Not an easy job to confess that.
#33 Posted by yogiraj on May 26, 2004 12:03:24 pm
Nazar Khan.
Salute.
That was as Majestic as Majid.
You have so much in you.
Let it blow out. More and more.
Please.
Yogiraj
Salute.
That was as Majestic as Majid.
You have so much in you.
Let it blow out. More and more.
Please.
Yogiraj
#32 Posted by Assad_K on May 26, 2004 12:03:23 pm
Bravo, Bravo! Keeping your previous articles in mind, have you any plans of publishing this sort of collection of memoirs? they`re like a breath of fresh air in the turgid, obnoxiously politicized halls of Chowk.. I`m sure that everyone here, at least, would give good word of mouth!
#31 Posted by harimau on May 26, 2004 8:34:29 am
Ref rahul_capri #19
[Now,I will be a dick and mention one thing to look out for-semicolons have not been used properly in some places(such errors of commision are worse than errors of ommission ). ]
Have you been reading ``Eats, Shoots & Leaves`` by any chance?
Anyway, here comes the story.
A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.
``Why?`` asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
``I am a panda,`` he says, at the door. ``Look it up.``
The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.
``Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China, Eats, shoots and leaves.``
[Now,I will be a dick and mention one thing to look out for-semicolons have not been used properly in some places(such errors of commision are worse than errors of ommission ). ]
Have you been reading ``Eats, Shoots & Leaves`` by any chance?
Anyway, here comes the story.
A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.
``Why?`` asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
``I am a panda,`` he says, at the door. ``Look it up.``
The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.
``Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China, Eats, shoots and leaves.``
#30 Posted by veeresh on May 26, 2004 8:29:11 am
Thank you Sir, I really enjoyed the article and have passsed it on to friends and family here who are / were flyers.
````Just an hour and a half flight from Pakistan, beyond the high mountains, there existed a completely different world. ````
Much the same as we in India feel about Pakistan and vice-versa I guess, except that the natural geographical differences aren`t there.
Many of us in India forget that the flying distance from Delhi to Allahabad is about the same as to Lhasa.
Did you ever find out what caused the leak? Was it a gallon/litre miscalculation?
````Just an hour and a half flight from Pakistan, beyond the high mountains, there existed a completely different world. ````
Much the same as we in India feel about Pakistan and vice-versa I guess, except that the natural geographical differences aren`t there.
Many of us in India forget that the flying distance from Delhi to Allahabad is about the same as to Lhasa.
Did you ever find out what caused the leak? Was it a gallon/litre miscalculation?
#29 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 26, 2004 5:19:50 am
Dost-Mitter # 27
(Why didn`t you share some with us when we were together? :-)
HA.HA.HA. We had so much else to talk about. Then Sargodha & Jhelum was on our mind.
Soysauce # 18
The Chinese are good people even without a God. They have no distraction of a religion.
#28 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 26, 2004 5:08:50 am
Atif1 # 17
Commercial flying is just about the easiest way of making good money while being on a perpetual holiday - provided you are the out-going type. Air Force flying is more machoistic and suites the guys who love sports and are more into aggression.
Rahul_Capri # 19
I agree with your observation of excessive semicolons. The text could have been improved with some more editing.
Arjun_m # 20
During the peak of the cultural revolution, it was essential for every Chinese to carry the Mao`s Red Book with its snippets of wisdom. The Chinese have sacrificed a lot in terms of personal liberties and freedoms to reach the position that they are in now.
SameerJB # 21
Sinkiang was then quite a backward province. Even now the Western China needs to catch up with its Eastern part. Uramqui was the nearest airfield from where these aircraft were brought and parked to be ferried across. I have been to Urmaqui some 8 years back on PIA. Now it must have progressed.
The local Uighers could understand the Turkish of Ankara area or about where normally our officers went on exchange postings.
Ijaz_Gul # 23
You have actually traversed and felt these mountains. I have only seen them. They are awesome. Once the Swiss Council General in Karach told me that we consider mountains to be useless objects whereas the Swiss have made a full use of them economically. There was an exhibition in Karachi on Swiss mountains.
twintopaz # 22
thanx.
Commercial flying is just about the easiest way of making good money while being on a perpetual holiday - provided you are the out-going type. Air Force flying is more machoistic and suites the guys who love sports and are more into aggression.
Rahul_Capri # 19
I agree with your observation of excessive semicolons. The text could have been improved with some more editing.
Arjun_m # 20
During the peak of the cultural revolution, it was essential for every Chinese to carry the Mao`s Red Book with its snippets of wisdom. The Chinese have sacrificed a lot in terms of personal liberties and freedoms to reach the position that they are in now.
SameerJB # 21
Sinkiang was then quite a backward province. Even now the Western China needs to catch up with its Eastern part. Uramqui was the nearest airfield from where these aircraft were brought and parked to be ferried across. I have been to Urmaqui some 8 years back on PIA. Now it must have progressed.
The local Uighers could understand the Turkish of Ankara area or about where normally our officers went on exchange postings.
Ijaz_Gul # 23
You have actually traversed and felt these mountains. I have only seen them. They are awesome. Once the Swiss Council General in Karach told me that we consider mountains to be useless objects whereas the Swiss have made a full use of them economically. There was an exhibition in Karachi on Swiss mountains.
twintopaz # 22
thanx.
#27 Posted by dost_mittar on May 26, 2004 4:51:23 am
nazar bhai:
You have some wonderful tales to tell and you tell them wonderfully! Why didn`t you share some with us when we were together? :-)
``the Russians were called the Revisionists because they had deviated from the pristine principles of Communism``
...look who is revisionist now?
You have some wonderful tales to tell and you tell them wonderfully! Why didn`t you share some with us when we were together? :-)
``the Russians were called the Revisionists because they had deviated from the pristine principles of Communism``
...look who is revisionist now?
#26 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 26, 2004 4:33:03 am
Freethinker # 8
Murphy`s Law - If something can go wron, it will go wrong.
Temporal # 9
Should be packing up bags for Pakistan!
Sac # 10
Yes. The Silk rout got many lives during construction. The Chinese have been really good to us although we did not heed some of their good advice.
Tehmed32 # 11
The Chinese are humble people with a great old civilization.
Romair # 12
Yes. Military gets you see most of the odd places inside Pakistan. I saw more places outside Pakistan when out of Air Force. I do have good memories of early days - but later there was some degeneration.
Malik 99 # 14
The constant engine drone soon becomes a part of the silence. Only other sounds attract your attention.
Murphy`s Law - If something can go wron, it will go wrong.
Temporal # 9
Should be packing up bags for Pakistan!
Sac # 10
Yes. The Silk rout got many lives during construction. The Chinese have been really good to us although we did not heed some of their good advice.
Tehmed32 # 11
The Chinese are humble people with a great old civilization.
Romair # 12
Yes. Military gets you see most of the odd places inside Pakistan. I saw more places outside Pakistan when out of Air Force. I do have good memories of early days - but later there was some degeneration.
Malik 99 # 14
The constant engine drone soon becomes a part of the silence. Only other sounds attract your attention.
#25 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 26, 2004 4:20:16 am
Stuka, Urstruly, Rozaiba, Nikki , Rakaposhi, Ahmed Iftikhar, Izzah, Kabuliwallah
Thanx folks. It is justy getting out of the system as observed & felt.
Thanx folks. It is justy getting out of the system as observed & felt.
#24 Posted by ijaz_gul on May 26, 2004 1:08:52 am
Nazar, You are an effective writer. The fact that you don`t review keeps the originality intact. I am reminded of Richard Bach and his novels on flight. I read one on christmas eve when I could not make it home. Terrefic! I am sure you must have also read Johnnaten Livingston Seagull.
The artical also brings back memories of getting stuck in the death zone of K2 above the Abruzzi Ridge. Efcourse thats a story for another day.
Well Done!!
Cheerios
The artical also brings back memories of getting stuck in the death zone of K2 above the Abruzzi Ridge. Efcourse thats a story for another day.
Well Done!!
Cheerios
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#21 Posted by SameerJB on May 25, 2004 9:48:02 pm
I really enjoyed reading this article. I have heard that things have considerably changed in Xinjiang (Sinkiang) since the days of Mao. The lower Sinkiang near Pakistani border is still very rural and Kashgar still a dusty old town but up north in Uighur region, Urumchi (or Urmqui) has undergone tremendous improvement and modernization. Urmuqui has modern sky rises in the down-town, good restaurants, night-out places, modern airport with few international flights landing and all what is expected from a modern city.
Few years back, my flight from Islamabad to Zurich was delayed and took off in the early morning hours. It headed right over the Chitral region and then Pamir mountains. The view from PIA airbus with early morning bright sun shining over Pamirs was breath taking. They look so majestic and so close to the airplane due to their height.
#20 Posted by arjun_m on May 25, 2004 9:05:28 pm
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