Censoring Michael Moore

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godot #49
I agree.

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Godot

I am told that Americans love dissidents. For example, they were paying a dissident named Ahmad Chalabi a hefty 350 thousand dollars a month for being dissident. [it is completely a different matter that Chalabi is currently being sodomized by American Army dogs in a secret internment camp in Iraq somewhere as we speak]. How about a dissident among Americans themselves - I would gladly take half of what Chalabi used to get. Oh by the way no dogs - plz.

arjun, 44

``If you don`t go back, you are part of the problem...remember: It`s your tax $$ paying for the US government``

Will you give the same advise to Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore, or in fact to anyone who doesn`t agree with US govt. foreign policies, to get the hell out of the US and go live somewhere else?

Urstruly is a dissident...what`s your problem with that? What`s your definition of speaking out...is it speak out only those things you want to hear and others can leave the country?

arjun

Truth has not set me free. `The trouble is that once you see it, you can`t
unsee it. And once you`ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out.`

oh nikki for the nth time will you please shut up -- judging by your rants i dont think i am the hatemonger here -- godot you`re up against a wall -- u should have known anyway that people who think that that book in question is in any way credible need to have their head examined --

callling all paki bashers on chowk, this one`s for you :)
the writer is javed naqvi, syed ali naqvi`s bro -- doesnt really matter who the writer is since the story speaks for itself


Indian admits to fake Siachen action


By Our Correspondent

NEW DELHI, June 7: An Indian soldier, who served in the Siachen Glacier, testified before an army court on Monday that he had demolished a fake ``enemy target`` at the behest of a senior officer in August last year and later posed in a video film as an enemy casualty.

The revelations came as India`s new government prepared to challenge former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee`s administration with evidence of serious lapses in the Kargil conflict of 1999, which he had claimed as a victory.

Rifleman Shyam Bahadur Thapa was quoted by Indian reports as saying that his company commander Major Surinder Singh made everybody involved in the operation swear before Lord Hanuman not to reveal the truth to anyone.

``Earlier on August 20 the officer called me and asked me if I could operate a video camera. When I said I did not know how to operate a camera, Major Singh taught me its operation,`` he was quoted as saying.

When the apparently fake encounter was being enacted, Major Singh, according to Rifleman Thapa, asked him to go near the rubble of the ``enemy target`` and lie there along the wall.

``He asked me to remove my jacket and cap before going to the demolished fake target and lie there. But when I started moving with my jacket and cap on, Major Singh abused me in foul language,`` Thapa said.

``I was also asked by Major Singh to report a technical snag in the first two shots and fire with a rocket launcher to demolish the fake target,`` he said. ``The drama was re-enacted on September 21,`` Thapa said.

Rifleman Shyam Bahadur Thapa is the fourth soldier to tell the court that army faked encounters in Siachen. Earlier JCO Phatte Bahadur Thapa, Havaldar Neer Bahadur Ale and Nayak Bhuwan Bahadur Thapa made similar admissions.

The court is recording summary evidence as a follow up to a Court of Inquiry which held Col K D Singh and Maj R Lamba responsible for administrative lapses and recommended disciplinary action against Maj Surinder Singh for making exaggerated claims about strikes on enemy targets, euphemism for Pakistani troops.

The new Congress party government was reported on Monday to be planning further revelations on another battlefield - the Kargil conflict. The government was quoted as suggesting that Mr Vajpayee`s government had unncessarily delayed ordering air strikes in the Kargil conflict to evict Pakistanis from the heights.

An Indian TV documentary meanwhile quoted a senior army officier as saying that a certain Kagil peak known as Point 5353 which he said belonged to India was still with Pakistan. The peak overlooked the strategic highway to Leh, in Ladakh. India, the officer said, had to include this issue in its talks with Pakistan.

feroz plz -- i am not (a) your student and (b) not really interested in why love/hate america/pakistan so much - michael moore and the white house are far from evenly matched in terms of a fight -- and (c) please consider it not censorship or whatever you will but please spare me from your self-righteous tone ferozk

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`` but it is not like a total blackout either, like some people are projecting out of sheer ignorance. ``
Nobody is projecting a total blackout.At least I could not infer that.
``The point is that you cannot stop information flow anymore.``
Maybe not, but the healthy climate of debate that is needed for producing the information that you are talking about is absent.And when sensitiivities are subdued, you cant even estimate the extent of damage.
So, in most cases, the information is not created.
``Some accept the message, and some don`t``
Those who don`t, they face grave risks.In India, there have been several cases of hooliganism by Shiv Sena.I can only imagine what would be the case in Pakistan with a dictator having various state agencies at his disposal.
You have to realise the enormity of the problem.
It is not for no reason that Omar R Querishi is not writing about freedom of speech in Pakistan.

sri & arjun

I was conned into believing what America is not. I didn`t know that every piece of bread that an American eats is actually soaked in the blood of someone helpless in third world. I hadn`t the slightest clue that everytime an American turns the ignition of his SUV, someone else half-way across the world dies. I was conned and I am ashamed.

#40 by rahul_capri

It gives them a message to shut up. Some accept the message, and some don`t. The point is that you cannot stop information flow anymore. People may have trouble owning their words, but they will still get the message across. It can (and should) certainly be improved substantially, but it is not like a total blackout either, like some people are projecting out of sheer ignorance. Thanks.

#37 by sri and arjun

”Talking about Michael moore, this is what happens when commie monkeys get hold power”

Since when Moore is a commie? He is a fat and ugly redneck who has figured out how to make money. Moore has nothing to do with the left.

Ever heard of people calling him “the officially approved or the Official leftwing”?

Has it ever occurred to you that he is supported by Disney and Miramax and Harvey Weinstein of Miramax is the real force behind all the hoopla for a mostly likely utterly non-sense movie? Would they ever support a commie? Get off this silly notion.

The real commies in the US spend most of their time posing for mug shots not behind the camera.

ref #38 AhmedBilal
``It serves as nothing more than a political statement.``
Political statement is not ``nothing more``, it is ``a substantial thing more``. It would not stop the flow of internationally renowned books, I agree with you, but what about local writers journalists? What kind of message does this ``nothing more than a political statement`` give to them?
Would they be encouraged to wield their pens against their state faith?