Train to Pakistan 2004 - Broad Ways

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nooralain,sadna
You guys are Dharmendra fans?And you did not mention Satyakam? Shame on you.
By the way, I saw Troy recently and thought that it was basically a remake of Mughale Azam in Punjabi with a lot of Punjab da puttars thrown in.Veeru Paji or sunny paji would have fit in very well in the role of Achiles.Imagine-``Hector kutte mai tera khoon pi jaoonga!!``

#66 by jang on June 18, 2004 2:32pm PT

[is it because she is fair and madrassis must have a fair maiden on the screen (needless to say that fair maidens are far and few south of deccan)?]

For every Simran, there is a Rekha, Hema Malini, or Sridevi. Remember, these ladies ruled Bollywood for several years, long before Simran or Khushboo were even conceived.

Not here to score points. Just want to correct you. On this North-South thing going on here, my personal opinion is I like attractive girls, whether they`re Kashmiri, Punjabi, Tamilian or Malayali is besides the point. Just imagine how drab life would be if I as a Tamilian had only Tamil girls to ogle at ;-)

veeresh ji: ``And yes, hellhound/82 using the ignore button is something I learnt while bringing up the babies . . .`` -- so u do admit you`re a grandfather, albeit of the rabidly anti pakistan variety??

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veeresh: ``Barring a couple of urban centres, fact remains that most of Pakistan seems to be stuck in some sort of time warp. That`s the honest truth, and the big reason for this situation in Pakistan is that painting India as an enemy is the easiest way for their establishment to divert the attention of their own deprived people. (Establishment means the combination of military, mullah, media, feudal, informer and others)`` --

wah wah shri veeresh jee kya 100 per cent drivel bolee hai aap nay -- acha btw shrink kay appointment ka kya hua??? kub hai? un jaldee say dikha hee dalein ?? we in pakistan will pray for u -- btw copies of your comments are being sent to vinod mehta veeresh jee -- :) hhahaaha -- dont worry jee, just kidding jee -- i think everyone can see for themselves how `accurate` your walkabout visit to pakistan was jee --

veeresh jee, nikki jee, harish jee, gujju jee, shrimati sadna jee et. al -- aap kay desh mein yeh bhi hota hai -- kitna afsos na jee ...


BJP stands by Modi

NEW DELHI, June 20: India`s opposition Hindu nationalists on Sunday shot down renewed calls to dismiss Gujarat`s hardline leader, who is accused of abetting anti-Muslim violence in the western state.

``There is no proposal to change the leadership of Gujarat at this juncture,`` Venkaiah Naidu, president of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), told reporters after a meeting of top party leaders in New Delhi.

Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi had come under fresh scrutiny after police said they gunned down four Muslims, including a 19-year-old woman, last Tuesday because they allegedly plotted to assassinate the state leader.

India`s ruling Congress party has suggested that the shootout was a set-up to build sympathy for Modi and demanded an impartial probe. Former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, breaking with his party`s longstanding backing of Modi, said last week that a BJP national meeting set to start on Tuesday in Mumbai would consider replacing the Gujarat leader.

Vajpayee also said for the first time that anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat, which left 2,000 people dead in 2002, contributed to the BJP`s upset election defeat in April-May elections.

But Vajpayee`s remarks led hardliners to rally around Modi, who had been facing calls for his resignation even from some BJP lawmakers in Gujarat. Vajpayee took part in Sunday`s BJP meeting, which was seen as an attempt to clear up intra-party disputes instead of airing them publicly at the Mumbai convention. -AFP

nikki,

Punjabis grow wherever they are planted. It is difficult to find such entrepreneurial spirit in any other people (not only in India but throughout the world). The joke in U.P. is ``aloo aur sardar duniya mein har jagah paaye jaate hain`` (Surds and punjus are used interchangeably). Definitely, they are very emotional.

I don`t believe in the crap of Punjus or North-West people being some `martial` race. This is in vogue since British days; `phirangs` loved to propagate this myth for their own benefit. Initially, they recruited people from Bengal. But, they found that they were too closely knit in the existing power structures (hence labelled ‘quarrelsome’ and ‘unreliable’). Revolts were frequent and politicization of forces high. OTOH, North-West was governed as a principality from Delhi; people were less intertwined in the power structures and had less at stake in the Delhi `durbaar`. The concepts of martial, materialistic, and spiritual ET used in conjunction with race is one of those old tired clichés that have been discredited beyond redemption. What better way to start the analysis than Indian army - the Mahaar regiment, the Madras regiment and Bihar regiment are all staffed from people who are not `martial` races. The mighty Mauryas, Guptas, Chauhans and Mughals were not from NW (Mughals being Turkicized Mongols).

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[.how are we giving away our ages??]

noori...
you don`t want entire chowk population to know about your and sadna`s ages... do you?...

HP/68 and others . . . just by way of input, I think, increasingly, as the world we can see changes on our sub-Continent (internet, open; television and other media, open subject to mind bending; air travel, open with document restrictions, sea travel, almost imposible, land travel, close to impossible) . . . increasingly, within the lovely masses, it is tradition and not loyalty that counts.

History is a lie anyway, rapidly evolving to try to suit King of the Day.

So, who has loyalties to anything other than Mother`s cooking?

Think about it.

And yes, hellhound/82 using the ignore button is something I learnt while bringing up the babies . . .

sadna:

it was my pleasure. :)


khamkhwa:

haan tau bol. . .how are we giving away our ages??? jaldi jaldi (mimicking you). and your age vaisay ka vaisay hi hai. bilkul nanha sa bachcha. . .*releasing fist and flicking fingers a la kajol in k3g* !!!!

nooralain #85
I looked it up, that movie is Dost, have not seen it though.

I keep telling anyone who will listen that Dharmendra has been around much longer than big B and has succeeded as hero in the entire gamut of genres from purely romantic, to social-themed, to old-fashioned adventure, to way-out costume drama, to genuine comedy, to modern action. Thank you for listening :).

khamkhwa #87
Living in an almost entirely nonHindi region of India, I saw these movies on TV only after Indian TV went national in the mid-late 80s. The local cinemas had long before decided to safeguard local movie industry and show only those Hindi movies which were absolutely superhits.