Careless Consciences

rahul

Further, it occurred to me, that you and I can`t really raise issues of Muslim conscience. Those of us who point such things out know what we have to put up with from Islamists and all kinds of pseudo-Islamists. More politically-correct or people with weaker backbones simply give up.

So here is the rub. FV goes to town doing hai-hai about everyone else`s conscience, but is completely silent about her own. In fact, the Muslim response is to attack you the moment you open your mouth. Quite a heads-I-win, tails-you-lose position of selective conscience keeping by the Islamic community.

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rahul_capri # 30

That is a mistake. Acts of omission are often more potent than acts of commission, particularly when one is in the know.

About FV, she has not even neglected the issue of Kashmiri refugees of Sikh and Hindu faith. She has taken an active and clear stand.

Dost Mittar

Ref: post#16

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`` He is not running the coalition; he did not choose his cabinet;

Pray on what is based the second (bold part) statement?

No, I will not ask questions like whether you are privy to what/how it has been done. Not at all. Your own word would be good enough for me if you say, you know for fact that Shree Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India, has not chosen his own cabinet.



Oh, I must say I do have a follow up question, in the event of your responding. However, that question would have nothing to do with your word. Once you say you know, that would be sufficient.

By the way, I am not challenging or being sarcastic .....

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ouch. all this when a true sympathiser is available in person to all qualified victims in Taj Cofee shop.

Dost Mittar

Ref: post#16

Quote:

`` He is not running the coalition; he did not choose his cabinet;

Pray on what is based the second (bold part) statement?

No, I will not ask questions like whether you are privy to what/how it has been done. Not at all. Your own word would be good enough for me if you say, you know for fact that Shree Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India, has not chosen his own cabinet.



Oh, I must say I do have a follow up question, in the event of your responding.

By the way, I am not challenging or being sarcastic .....

arjun_m, Ralph-
As I told you before, I really am not interested in FVs POV. Besides, I am new to chowk so I have not read her older articles, specifically the one you are referring to. Perhaps you would have protested on what she had said then, and rightly so. Blast her on that board, I would join you.
This does not take away from the fact that she can make valid points from time to time.
Ralph,
``That is a mistake. Acts of omission are often more potent than acts of commission, particularly when one is in the know. ``
I am not concerned about FVs karma either, neither should you be.
``Further, it occurred to me, that you and I can`t really raise issues of Muslim conscience.``
I questioned the attitude of muslims towards the sanctity of Quran on the board ``The Secularity of India`` .
Go and take a look. Noone , I repeat not a single person, abused me.
I will not deny that I expected some sort of abuse when I posted. But it was my misconception.Perhaps it was because my attitude was not of irreverence and hatred but of analysis.The issue that I am a Hindu raising this issue did not bother me, nor it did anybody else on chowk. If again the discussion veers towards this topic, I will raise this issue again. If i feel more passionately, I may write an article too about it.
``While commenting on a FV article, don`t you think her positions based on her own posts is relevant?``
If she posts something here that you feel objectionable ,attack her. But if you are always going to talk about something that has left an indelible image of FV in your mind, you are getting into the way of a constructive discussion that can be had on the valid points that she
has made. There has to be some distinguishing line between people and ideas.

Looking at my report card my father scolded me once ...... `` You Idiot! You cannot justify your worse marks by pointing to someone else`s worse marks ``. Since then, my shudra background did not influence my report cards.

As a person of Backward caste and free from the ``prejudices`` attributed to Hindu religion zealots, I used to have open mind about my relationship with my fellow muslim citizens. We lived in Afzal gunj and Gowlipura areas of Hyderabad during my adolescent years. After closely witnessing the actions of muslims through my teenage years I started questioning their collective ``Conscience`` ( Hint: Extremely violent religious riots and the subsequent actions of Muslim community leaders such as Sallahuddin Owaisi and Amanullah Khan). I am sorry to say that I am yet to get a satisfying answer on their ``Conscience``.

arjun

There was a beautiful and very moving post from Farzana about the minorities in Kashmir. She had asked that if Kashmiriyat was important to them (Sikhs and Hindus), why didn`t they stay on, or return to Kashmir?

If its not too much trouble, see if you can let her enlighten all of us once again. Thanks in anticipation.

Thanks, Arjun # 35. There is no greater enemy of darkness than objective, factual information. Now, it will be fun to see the usual desperate attempts at laughable and ludicrous `contextualization.`

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rahul_capri # 38

With due reverence, I find your arguments extremely simplistic and unconvincing. But since I do not spend time arguing with those who do not pose a threat to humanity, we would agree to disagree.

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