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Lesbians vs. Gays vs. Hinduism vs. Modernity?

Farzana Versey June 21, 2004

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#1 Posted by stuka on June 21, 2004 1:44:03 pm
``Why do two young women, hot for each other, make a bunch of men get all excited? ``

It excites me as well; but in a different sort of way. It is funny that Shiv Sena people are rampaging about lesbianism. What do they think of incest?? After all, rumour has it that Balasheb sleeps with his own daughter in law, Smita Thackeray.
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#2 Posted by stuka on June 21, 2004 1:44:55 pm
...erm, my disapproval of the Shiv Sena`s acts should not be misconstrued as approval of homosexual relationships.
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#3 Posted by nooralain on June 21, 2004 2:19:46 pm
thank you for clarifying that for us. :)
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#4 Posted by dullabhatti on June 21, 2004 2:49:29 pm
#3, alternatively he could have signed off his post as Stuka - the republican play boy.:-)
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#5 Posted by dullabhatti on June 21, 2004 2:49:29 pm
Few days ago I met this desi couple...The girl was young, radiant, breathtakingly beautiful and the guy was a a 40 year old jheenger, no hair on head, self absorbed in some stupid thing he does at work, bad hyegine and very feminine pasture. I was like may be she would have been better off being lesbian instead.

I think these shiv saniks types are against gays because they feel more manly when they bash gays.....they are against lesbians because they are afraid their wives might find out about this ``new thing`` and actually start enjoying something they can`t provide.

People like stuka and me although against homosexual reltionships of any airra gaira nathoo khaira(artists, philosphers, scientists and professors are allowed), are excited by the erotic value of lesbianism.
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#6 Posted by kaurasach on June 21, 2004 2:49:29 pm
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#9 Posted by jang on June 21, 2004 3:03:10 pm
``There is rarely any talk about Christianity vs. modernity or Hinduism vs. modernity. But if we wish to take this recent example, we will realise that Hindu culture is completely insensitive to anything close to modernity. At every point in time, modernity ought to include sensitisation towards marginalised groups. ``

My guess is most posts will address this paragraph (well, except saminashah will have lots of posts about rest of the article, which most folks will ignore).

I just dont understand what modernity has to to do with sensitisation towards marginalised groups. I dont see the obvious, so author, pls make the connection.

I also disagree that ``hindu`` scriptures have a benevolent treatment of homsexuality (as the letter says). My readings tell me that the scriptures totally ignore homosexuality. Nothing against, nothing for. No boy-love either..this is a north-western import.
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#10 Posted by kaurasach on June 21, 2004 3:03:10 pm
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#11 Posted by dullabhatti on June 21, 2004 3:07:18 pm
lao hun excite hoan te vi pabandi laggegi?
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#12 Posted by dullabhatti on June 21, 2004 3:07:18 pm
kaurasach#7 >Currently, I am doing research on why men dig two women (or more) making out. I will post my findings soon. <<<

subhanallah...practical research kar rahe O?:-)
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#13 Posted by nooralain on June 21, 2004 3:14:49 pm
dullabhatti #6

alternatively, yes. but that is already a given is it not?! :) and while i`m here, kyoon becharay ko sata rahe ho?!
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#14 Posted by nooralain on June 21, 2004 3:27:19 pm
#10

i think that that particular paragraph will raise many of the questions as well. i`m trying to dig deeper than what is stated myself not just because of the modernity issue, but because there seems to be an absolutist statement there, and as simply as farzana has expressed it, i`m having trouble grasping it.

jang, if boy-love or homosexuality is a north-western import, can you shed some light on the carvings above certain temples that portray homosexual acts? there are temples in india that have such carvings, do they not? i know it`s different from scriptures, but i`m interested in knowing.
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#15 Posted by kaurasach on June 21, 2004 4:03:49 pm
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#16 Posted by malang on June 21, 2004 4:03:49 pm
There were times when I used to think … technically understandable that men are with other men as women cannot offer homosexual men what they do with each other … not at least fully and in non-artificial manner … but for what a woman needs another woman to get satisfied. Most men are capable, willing and probably pleased to replicate the all the services a lesbian has to offer another lesbian.

Then with a whit of good luck I came across a pure lesbian, very attractive young lady who answered most of my questions about the phenomenon “homosexuality”.

As many women complain that most men are unaware of or have a weird tendency to forget quite often that sex is something that resides AS MUCH between two ears as it is between two legs. For some women it is simply unthinkable to be touched, fondled, kissed, caressed by a man as it is unimaginable for many men to be with another man in bed.

Yes practically a man can replace a woman but definitely NOT emotionally and psychologically. Some women, for that matter some men too, simply don’t get excited by opposite sex.

Nowadays there are even some biological explanations (though yet to be fully proved or refuted) that at least some of homosexuals are born faggots. They are programmed by nature to be gay. They found certain slight but specific differences in the brains of some gays.

Interestingly, many men severely dislike homosexuality among males but get extremely aroused because of female homosexuality. How do we explain this disparity?
Similarly, to many (male) “liberals” it is unacceptable that their wives/girlfriends cheat them with another male, but acceptable, if not recommendable to be with another woman. Probably, they don’t consider women as their rival.
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