Open Letter to Prime Minister Jamali

Well! to lighten up this thread and talk about Canada at the same time…

“An elderly woman lived on a small farm in Canada, just yards away from the North Dakota border. Their land had been the subject of a minor dispute between the United States and Canada for years. The, now widowed, woman lived on the farm with her son and three grandchildren.
One day, her son came into her room holding a letter. ``I just got some news, Mom,`` he said.
``The government has come to an agreement with the people in North Dakota. They`ve decided that our land is really part of the United States. We have the right to approve or disapprove of the agreement. What do you think?``
``What do I think?`` his mother said.
``Sign it! Call them right now and tell them we accept. I don`t think I could stand another one of those Canadian winters!``

Nikki ...

``a mad islamist could knife you while crying ``allah-o-akbar` or something like that man........``

Yaar... Tell it to the Mullah supporters who think Mullahs are harmless walking down to the parliament and engaging in Bhook hartal. As if Blasphemy issue never happened in Pakistan... if women wearing jeans or going out to vote in NWFP are not slapped in Public... as if there is no sectarian violence in Pakistan.


These Mullah supporters live in denial...

-YLH

Malik99

Once again... I did not run out of arguments... there was no point about bringing in the rich people. We know their crimes... very well...The issue was of the purchaseability of the Mullah and I think it is settled that the Mullah (i.e. the religious parties of Pakistan) is the biggest sell out in Pakistan. Using the term broad again and again will not prove your point or Huma Mir`s.

Thanks for informing me about what a US professor will or will not do... though I was never thrown out of any of my classes... thankfuly... nor did any of my political science professors walk out on me... or the logic professor for that matter.


But thanks anyway...


-YLH

dost-mittar #119: ``Congratulations on Wajid`s victory. (btw, it`s vive le canada!)``

Thanks. He ended up getting more than 50% of the total vote. So I think this area may be his for a while. I am still shaky on the French....

``The senator is Mobin Jaffer``

I assume you are talking about Mobina Jaffer. I knew about her. Didn`t know about the elected guy. Thanks for the info.

Ijaz_gul #122: ``Good! Well done!!
Your expression in the post reflects your joy and glee. Do you know Azmat Hayat Khan an ex aeronautical engineer living in Canada?``

Thanks. It was well worth the effort. Though, my contribution was minor. I just did labor type work, for a few days. The real credit goes to his team, which had been working and planning his campaign for a long time. The working atmosphere was great. Rang barange loog. He talked with me a couple of times. My first impression of him and his wife is quite positive.

I do not recall Azmat Hayat. But I could probably track him down, if I can get more info.

Mantolives #117: ``So secularism is working perfectly in Canada... isn`t it?``

Yes, secularism is working well in Canada (though not so well in some countries also), and suits the country well, since it is based on solid human rights here. However this victory had more to do with many factors, other than secularism (Pakistanis, by virtue of their voting power alone are now a force in the area and should now be able to get two or more seats in the future).

``I join you Romair... in saying Viva Le Canada!``

Canada is truly a unique place. No doubt about it. I am now fully convinced that my initial hunches about the place were correct.USA is a secular country also. Pakistanis are getting screened unnecessarily there and are on the defensive, while they are getting to the highest offices in Canada. I cannot imagine any Pakistani reaching this level in the USA in the next twenty-five to fifty or more years. I doubt this guy could have even have come close to winning in Pakistan, had he run against the Jamalis and the Bhuttos and the Legharis, etc. Yet here he is, sitting in the highest offices of a G-8 country.

We are waiting to see whether he gets a ministry. My guess is he should have a chance. He is a very presentable Muslim figure, with a strong vote-bank and a cultural background that is needed by any Western govt. Not to mention, apparently a close friend of the current PM (who actually visited the campaign three or four days ago).

Mantolives - I just read your ilog where you called me a ``piece of shit`` and ``asswipe``. hmmm...sounds like you ran out of arguments. I suggest that you take lessons on logic and public speaking from some mullah, ANY mullah. That way you will become just as successful as they are in convincing people of your stance.

=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts

Huma Mir...

I have neither the inclination nor the time to continue this debate... especially when it will now become personal with insults flying all over... now that Khamkhwa is joining in. l I can say is that you chaps have deliberately drawn this tangent... I don`t care about American Muslims ... or their travails beyond my own family that lives there... and thankfuly none of them have ever felt the burden of the patriot act... mashallah all of them are doing very well... and I wish them all the best.


I already explained in my post what I mean by Mullahs... but in any event I have no respect for people who sell Islam professionally... as a Muslim it is my religious belief that Islam does not allow for any clergy... and very existence of the Mullah is aberration. These Mullahs are disgusting creatures whose very existence is the anti-thesis of the ideology of Islam. I hate the Mullahs because I am an extremely intolerant Muslim... so there... now you know of my bigotry. I am proud of it.


As my hero (I am sure you all know who that is by now) said once `Every Muslim is his own priest` ... His favorite phrase for the Mullahs was `These Mad Mullahs...`

I agree! Damn these Mad Mullahs...


Enough said...


-YLH

mantolive - you wrote ``you brought in the rich people because you mistakenly thought I was filthy rich.``

Not really. I brought in rich people simply to make as generalized a statement as you had made and to elicit the infuriated response. My objective was pretty simple - to show you that when you paint others with broad brush, others will paint you back with the same broad brush. Thats all.

And the kind of BROOOOAAAAADDDD logic that you use, if you were to use similar tactics in a political science class in US, either the professor will walk out on you or he will ask you to leave the class room. In fact he might just go beyond it and make a call to the College administration and have you banned from campus. And he will not stop at that. And I only shudder with horror as to what next steps he may take. ~shudders~

Khamkhwa ki museebat...

I would imagine the amount a$$ whooping you get on a regular basis from every single Chowkie on Unplugged would have made you learn your lesson... but clearly you are incurable, or maybe `Ab to adat see ho gayee hai tujh ko` ...

Anyway have a nice day...

Later

-YLH

Manto yaar, let the Mullahs actually come to power once. You will be proven right for all time to come within a few months.

The Mullahs talk big when they are in opposition. They don`t do shit when they are in power.

I would love to see Mullahs come to power and stand up to US, take Kashmir by force from India, repress their own populations as per their rule in NWFP and still make Pakistan a success story.

malik99,huma_mir and rest of ylh bashers...

you should be considerate where ylh is concerned..the poor guy is half ahmadi-half shia-half arab-half persian...and all these halves have confused the lil baba...who is best at bleating... ;)

Mog...

Somehow that was not the case 55-60 years ago... when all of our Mullahs were in Congress Party`s pocket... especially the Ahrar party... who was the biggest Islamist movement of its kind ... which ironically was accusing the Muslim League of being Kemalist but was amazingly allied with the Secular Congress Party... something was wrong there. Especially how after 1947... the same Congress supporting Mullahs who wanted a United India i.e. Ahrar and Khaksars came to Pakistan and started to demand an Islamic theocracy... The Mullahs are sell outs... and you people are their oldest clients... shall I go back to the Khilafat movement?


Malik99...

I don`t wish to continue my discussion with an expat who wants to obfuscate ... I will say this.. you brought in the rich people because you mistakenly thought I was filthy rich... wealth was never an issue... what was on trial was how purchaseable the Mullahs are...

There is no denying that the fact that the MMA leadership has been bought and sold more times anyone else in our history. Denying it is only denying history...


Have fun in New Jersey or whereever ... it is easy to support Mullahs when you don`t have to endure them on a daily basis.

-YLH

Mantolives writes ``I lived in the US for four years till 2002 for my College Education ... I didn`t find the discrimination people like you keep harping on about. Nor was I target of any hate crimes... If you don`t act suspicious ... I don`t see why you would be accused of anything``

I too don`t see any reason either why one should be accused of anything if he does not ``look`` suspicious. But hundred of american muslims who were put behind bars without trial, thousands who were deported, tens of thousands who were finger printed, and millions who continue to live under the shadow of the draconian Patriot Act may, just mayyyyy, disagree with you a tad bit.

I really think you should reflect upon the way you debate. You have once again made this broad, unqualified statement about american muslims which does not hold any water. And calling me ``mama`` or saying ``mullahs are rich`` and ``mullahs drive landcruisers`` are the kind or arguments I don`t find enticing enough to engage in. Sincerely.

malik

and by the way, the other day the tv showed jamali and fazlur rehman hugging each other while saying farewell to jamali. It was quite a humbling scene to see both men touch only at their rims while their hands were struggling to reach each other`s shoulders. I was wondering if they are put in jail together in one cell then they wont be able to choke each other to death because their hands cannot reach each others necks.

malik

I think mullah`s obesity is hormonal

Urstruly # 132 - ha ha . Well put !!! and these ``patli patli taangoN walay`` fauji who do not hesitate to kill pakistani civilians, have yet to win us a war with our neighbours.

And that is despite eating 40% of our yearly budget !! Now where the fuk is this budget going? According to some, the army may be eating 40% of our national budget but it is Mullahs who are getting fat!! This does not seem to be logical, unless the army has a very active digestive system and metabolism rate.