Open Letter to Prime Minister Jamali

What happens if there is an untoward incident before Shaukat gets elected?

my dear Rozaiba...... u seeem to portray either incredible naviety of local politics or incredible optimism about the ex Pm. though as hard he may have tried his tenure was bound 2 b incredibly short..... he was bound 2 have lost the support of his party men as well as the establishment that propped n then elected him! he should be glad that God gave him a chance to be PM which was his wish since the mid eighties..... his name has gone down in history as well and made the baluchis proud by being the PM from their province!

is satire, or sarcasm, or irony missed on some people here?

#50 by ferozk
“How quaint, when history repeats itelf!”

Excellent! So you are pointing out that what is happening in Pakistan is the remaking (bad) of the old movies.

Pakistan practically is under the Presidential system. So it is not actually moving towards it but it is there already.
In the Ayub Khan’s days, his most powerful minister for a long time was Mohd. Shoaib. A World Bank alumnus and a finance guru of some questionable repute. Now we have a finance Minister of similar credentials, who will be prime minister.
In the Zia Ul Haq’s days, for most of the time his most powerful minister was none other then Mehboob Ul Haq another alumnus of the World Bank.

Only Mushy appears to be so stupid that he is willing to make a finance man of dubious credentials, his prime minister as he or his generals have difficulty in trusting any civilian politicians.
I would not blame them. Look at the history. Every civilian horse that they backed, from the erstwhile ZAB to Junejo to NS, turn around and tried to unsaddle them to dust.
Basically, what we have is Katchi Sharab in a new bottle or as some poet said Nai Jaal liya purana shikari.

Ignore the modus operandi, as that is the only way army can operate. It has a manual and every time the army needs changes, it dusts up the same old manual.
The need for change in Pakistan is obvious. As you point out mostly as part of the new Non-Nato ally status. These changes have nothing to do with changes at the lower level that will never happen.
If they talk of Institution building, they are only talking about the army as its image has been tarnished by the infiltration of the fundamentalist in its rank.


#63 by sadna
“Musharaf will require the support of such a popular base”

Sometimes you are funny! Musharaf already has that base. Don’t you see that around here? They form the majority in Pakistan.

Nothing has ever changed in Pakistan by the Street power alone and it is not a consideration because the Army has been manipulating the street for a long time now.
The first time Army lost power in Pakistan was due to its defeat in 1971, the second time around either KGB or CIA killed the Army chief to bring civilians to power.

H-Ikram # 62 - well said ! The only thing the occupation army seems to be good at is suppressing our people and surrounding and killing our villagers. Here is a force that takes away 40% of our national budget but has yet to win a foreign war!

The only thing it has become good at is to kill the civilians it swore to protect under the auspices of incompetent generals. THAT is where 40% of our national defense budget is being spent.

It is a common knowledge that this fukking despot has been sending Pakistani mercenaries into Iraq thru illegally operating recruiting centers in all major cities, to protect his masters in Iraq. And now he is gonna give head. Anything for the masters.


http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3126186

``The hostage, who said he was a driver named as Amjad, urged Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to close the Pakistani Embassy in Iraq and to ban all Pakistanis from coming to Iraq.

He appealed to his countrymen not to come to Iraq because “there are no work opportunities here.”

The hostage, who knelt before the armed gunmen and bowed his head, insisted that his life would not be spared because he was a Muslim.

“I’m also Muslim, but despite this they didn’t release me,” he said. “They are going to cut the head off any person regardless of whether he is a Muslim or not.”

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so much for the Umma Business in Pakistan -- hopefully Mooshruff Babu is listening -- no Pakistani Sepoys for -- Chotaa Bush Sahib -- in `Eyerock`....please

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HP #69
Read my post again. Musharraf needs an ORGANISED popular base to keep the peace. The majority might support him but are not organised and hence cannot keep the peace.

arjunm

Even if this guy was just cleaning the toilets of crusaders, this despot and na-pak fauj shouldn`t have send him there. As if we didn`t have enough enemies already.

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Two questions:

1. Is Shaukat Aziz a Qadiani?

2. Is he a US citizen?

Irfanhamid # 41, Manto # 40

(It is not upto his staff to make decisions for him, their job is to provide him with options, the ultimate choices should be his. If he does not know anything about S&T then he is like an 18 year old)

A minister needs a political touch - after all he is the representative of the people. The actual practice is that Parlimentarians having backround in the area are considered for the ministerial posts. A background in a specific area is good enough qualification to understand what is going on. He need not be a 100% technically qualified expert - that was the essance of my Post. (Laloo was an extreme example - although Laloo fully understands what railway is about)

Manto # 40

MQM & MMA

You will agree both are politically well knit entities. We are not discussing their good or bad.

Both have been able to extract maximum political advantage from the military Government. MMA supports the Government because it wants to keep system going. For the first time, they have gotten so many seats. It is in their interest that they remain in power in NWFP. It is understood that their agenda is neither democracy nor Pakistan. It is some kind of pan-islamism to which I disagree.

Despite its past skeletons, MQM is now a much reformed party with a clear vision. It has supported Government in a clear quid-pro-que fashion - getting in return what it wanted. It knows its position of strength and without it, the Government could fall. I like MQM`s present Manifesto on both Domestic and foreign policies.

In essance, both MMA & MQM are political entities the Government could not ignore.

These could have be conveniently ignored if PPP was brought into the fold - a sensible course of action. But the Military is perenially scared of PPP - the only populist party that could challenge it. Keeping PPP & PML (N) out is atificially tempering the political forces which is detrimental to the state as has been proved in the past.

Salzar

My neighbor swears that begum sehba musharaf is a quadiani. She was his neighbor at Hyderabad and was a schoolteacher when Mushsraf proposed.

#75 by Salazar

Third question: Is Shaukat Aziz an alien?

*X-Files theme music in the background*

#28 by Romair on June 26, 2004 6:29pm PT

[The good part is that it is about time that waderas and feudals and tribals stopped becoming Prime Ministers. They have nothing to do with democracy.]

You know what a democracy is? It is an arrangement where there is a place for ALL, be they feudals or serfs. But how will you know? World over, armies are known for not encouraging rational thinking amongst their rank and file.

#46 by malang

[Mr. Romair has more than 2000 replies on this forum – without having any degree in essay writing.]

ROTFL!!!!