Illiteracy (Ignorance) After Education Part II

Re: # 1
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002242.html

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#20 Mr Ispahani

You have obviously taken my last post personally, Thankyou for corroborating your story further and I hope you continue to look 34 for the rest of your life. For some of us look 34 whilst being 24. Anyways, My other recommendation for you would be to actually read Manto`s toba tek singh, if you havent read it already. This could possibly, and I am being optimistic here, give you an idea of what kaurasuch meant.

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#8: Regarding the first example, I was trying to show that people do not make their children aware of several basic facts...such as the fact that more Muslims live in India than in Pakistan and that not all Muslims sided with Pakistan at the time of partition...it had nothing to do with opening of borders etc.
I don`t remember writing that opening borders will make marriage happen...and in reply to all those comments of that 35 yr old woman...she is just a character...there are several women like her...the point I was trying to make here was that in our society it is a big cause for concern if a woman remains unmarried, not only for her family members, but for the the world around her...and people try to reach conclusions as to what may be wrong with her etc...disregarding the fact that firstly, it is her personal matter which doesn`t harm the world in any way and secondly, there can be any reason (tragic love story or a want of independence etc.)...it is not necessary that she hasn`t had any proposals due to some sort of defect on her part or been rejected etc...and having children after 35 may become difficult, but I don`t think it is so impossible...
and about the army part...some day I might write an article about that dominating part of our country as well...and may be these issues don`t matter to you, but they make a lot of difference to me...
#10 details are fictitious means that I have purposely changed the names of the characters and in some cases, the events...the truth has not been changed...the examples were all heard, though may be they happened in a different fashion...but they definitely led to the same conclusion..
# 14 well, if the impact of my articles is even one-hundreth of the impact of Aesop`s Fables on children, then I`ll have achieved something
#1 I am still a little unsure about who burgers are...some people refer to those who live in Defence or Clifton...or may be those who have a fake accent...or those who go to posh restaurants often with their friends...you may apply any definition..

To everyone:Thank you very much for all you comments. I really appreciate criticism as well.

#16

I think Mr Ispahani has taken the Kaurasuch bate big time.

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Although each of the issues discussed under as Zahra calls, the snippets, are as real it comes. The narration and the whole structure of this piece is overtly simplifying and almost looses the point that it supossedly, is trying to make. A case in point is;

``I smiled back and thought: “Well, Madam, now I know why you love your country so much. You will be the first to run away if something happens. Jab dono haath mein laddoo hain to aisa hi socho aur bollo gi (When you have the best of both the worlds, then obviously you will think and say so).” - Also considering the fact that nothing apart from socializing and money seems to matter to her.``

Who is the author trying to blame here, the guest, drowned in the popstastic version of 14th August Pop Song type patriotism.(Notice the use of the word P). The society drenched in corruption and the worst form of material captilism sweeping around the world. The loss of the moral balance in the society between religiosity and liberalism. The violent tranformation of Belief and all its peripheral arguments. Is the green Cuore, the maximum amount of patriotic duty that we owe to this country. We are a generation who had to build up a dreamy bubble around the violent reality of our land, specially through the 80s. Even our anger, as the author manifests, is wrapped in this bubble.

And I am as much to blame as anyone else.

#10: That was an astutue observation.

There are 13 lines in example #10 in which this 35 yo woman`s choice of work as fulfillment in life is described and we know from preface of the article that this person is a real one.

Well! Good for her that she wants to make her work as central concern of her life. One wishes her well. This wish includes the idea that she doesnot change her mind and doesnot wish to marry and have kids in future. In case she does change her mind the facts about genetic defects are part of knowledge which once gained would remove ignorance in that area. Also my good wish includes the alternative that she does not change her mind and knows what she is upto in terms of future (that is, old age, complicated or not by an adopted child, etc etc). Knowing about financial angle is also part of ignorance removal one must seek to impart in all persons. Does this highlighting of both sides make me sexist? Come on! Be fair.

Also I would like to make a comment like fuzair. But I could not have said it better than fuzair. So I will abstain. But I will say this: What is the function of story telling? There is hardly an Indian movie maker who does not think that his latest movie does not have a tale to tell which has entertainment and education. What is the character of this education. It is mostly ready made position or attitude. They seem to be saying that: ``Here, take this ready made attitude, do not protest, just accept it, just internalize it.`` Reminds me of a Mummyji serving a doctor prescribed bitter pill to her little Gudiya Rani: ``Dekho Beta, Yeh Tablet Le Lo, Tum Theek Ho Jaogee.`` Reminds me of Aesop`s Fables because of shortness of Ayesha`s stories. Aesop`s Fables used to be taught to us in our primary school. The mode of instruction such as this is appropriate for school going children. All others are bound to pick holes in the said and unsaid arguments presented. Ayesha`s article is written with attitude somewhat like these.

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - An Indian airliner has made an emergency landing to save the life of a 10-day-old Pakistani baby with a heart ailment whose condition deteriorated on board, an airline official says.

The Airbus A320 of state-run Indian Airlines was on a flight late on Wednesday from New Delhi in the north to the technology hub of Bangalore in the south.

When the crew learned that Pakistani baby Muhammad Khan, en route to Bangalore for surgery with his mother and uncle, had started to turn blue, the pilot diverted to Hyderabad. That was a 10-minute flight while Bangalore was still 50 minutes away.

``We care for our passengers and we run the airline with a human face. The pilot did a wonderful job,`` Indian Airlines Public Relations Director Anoop Srivastava told Reuters.

The child was rushed to hospital as soon as the plane touched down. Newspapers quoted the doctor who treated the child as saying his condition was stable and he had been discharged.

Ties between nuclear rivals India and Pakistan have improved in the past 18 months as part of a cautious peace process, two years after the neighbours stood on the brink of their third war over Kashmir.

In steps to improve people-to-people contact, New Delhi eased visa restrictions in 2003 for Pakistani children seeking treatment in India and said it would finance the travel, treatment and accommodation of 20 Pakistani children.

In the past year, several sick Pakistani children and adults have travelled to India, especially to Bangalore, known for its high-quality and affordable private medical care.

(from Reuters)

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Hmm.. u remind me of a phrase my ammi uses quite often for some people: `` parhey likhay jahil`` i.e . educated illiterates.

These examples present the true picture of the hypocrisy emanating from the people around us.

good job.

``Examples are true though details are mostly fictitious.``

Is this an example of your ``Illiteracy (Ignorance) After Education?``

What exactly does this mean? You heard something vaguely on these lines and decided to `improve` on the truth to make your point better? You didn`t like the punch line and changed it? The little girl said ``X`` and you wanted her to say ``Y?``

Please enlighten us.

I am begining to think that preference for a fair-skinned spouse/mate is genetic also and not a social construct entirely. I think it is just another way God tests his people. I have to test my theory yet and that I will do after little bit of reminiscing, cuz it reminded my of that girl in our college whom boys referred to as Kali-sexy.