Veeresh Malik August 1, 2004
#213 Posted by nikki7777 on August 13, 2004 4:22:44 pm
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#212 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 3:19:27 pm
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#211 Posted by jang on August 13, 2004 3:19:27 pm
kkkandk
``I just want to know:
1. What was Feroz Gandhis real name before he changed it?
2. Why did he have to change his name?
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heh heh 99.999% people in india wont even know who is feroze gandhi. i grew up thinking that she is Mohandas Gandhis daughter. heh heh heh.
so pick up something of more current interest..you wont find many takers on this one.
``I just want to know:
1. What was Feroz Gandhis real name before he changed it?
2. Why did he have to change his name?
``
heh heh 99.999% people in india wont even know who is feroze gandhi. i grew up thinking that she is Mohandas Gandhis daughter. heh heh heh.
so pick up something of more current interest..you wont find many takers on this one.
#210 Posted by kaurasach on August 13, 2004 3:19:26 pm
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#209 Posted by veeresh on August 13, 2004 1:07:55 pm
kkkandk/various - sirji, I empathise with your interest and search for historical truths.
However, in my short life, so far, I have learnt that there is only one truth, and that is, sorry for being morbid, death. Now death being only possible in the future, stands to reason that the truth is also somewhere in the future.
Conversely, history by definition, therefore, is a lie.
Now, what therefore attains higher value : history or tradition, as far as fascination is concerned?
Please consider - the dynasties in modern India & Pakistan seem to share certain ``us & them`` traditions with higher levels of commonality than do lineages. These traditions are then, also, shared with dynasties elsewhere.
So, as far as the truth behind dynasties goes, I don`t know.
BTW, I think Omar is worried about Dawn supplicants. Oh well . . .
However, in my short life, so far, I have learnt that there is only one truth, and that is, sorry for being morbid, death. Now death being only possible in the future, stands to reason that the truth is also somewhere in the future.
Conversely, history by definition, therefore, is a lie.
Now, what therefore attains higher value : history or tradition, as far as fascination is concerned?
Please consider - the dynasties in modern India & Pakistan seem to share certain ``us & them`` traditions with higher levels of commonality than do lineages. These traditions are then, also, shared with dynasties elsewhere.
So, as far as the truth behind dynasties goes, I don`t know.
BTW, I think Omar is worried about Dawn supplicants. Oh well . . .
#208 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 11:51:10 am
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#207 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 11:51:10 am
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#206 Posted by halur on August 13, 2004 11:05:13 am
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Then be serious. No biography of Indira Gandhi mentions that Feroze gandhi was a muslim called Feroz Khan. And many of these biographies are written by westerners, who have no motivation to deceive. In fact, if somebody could prove this, they would have a best-seller on their hands.
Then be serious. No biography of Indira Gandhi mentions that Feroze gandhi was a muslim called Feroz Khan. And many of these biographies are written by westerners, who have no motivation to deceive. In fact, if somebody could prove this, they would have a best-seller on their hands.
#205 Posted by veeresh on August 13, 2004 10:13:26 am
Omar/199, sirji, please get closer to the art forms of triple puns and/or tongue in cheek?
As for the `Pindi buidlings, who was talking about the poor fatherless ISI? What do you take me for, such a simple Simon?
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kkkandk/various - I can see where your fascination with lienage is coming from. Used to be important in India, too, at one time. Probably still is, but we tend to elect them too.
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For a moment, assume the leaders in India & Pakistan had been different. Would it have made much difference to most people, 6 decades on? I don`t think so.
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As for the rest, Happy Independence Day to all of us and Happy Birthday to The Chowk, too.
On with the pedaas, the merlot and the speeches.
As for the `Pindi buidlings, who was talking about the poor fatherless ISI? What do you take me for, such a simple Simon?
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kkkandk/various - I can see where your fascination with lienage is coming from. Used to be important in India, too, at one time. Probably still is, but we tend to elect them too.
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For a moment, assume the leaders in India & Pakistan had been different. Would it have made much difference to most people, 6 decades on? I don`t think so.
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As for the rest, Happy Independence Day to all of us and Happy Birthday to The Chowk, too.
On with the pedaas, the merlot and the speeches.
#204 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 9:50:31 am
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#203 Posted by kaurasach on August 12, 2004 9:12:33 am
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#202 Posted by kkkandk on August 12, 2004 7:27:14 am
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#201 Posted by kkkandk on August 12, 2004 7:27:14 am
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#200 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on August 12, 2004 6:18:26 am
actually veeresh jee, since you say you know the owners so well, why not route your letters through them, after all what would be a better way to get them printed
references? actually i didnt really read the piece veeresh sahib -- actually came to send a message to barachota -- waisay the ISI HQs are not in rawalpindi
references? actually i didnt really read the piece veeresh sahib -- actually came to send a message to barachota -- waisay the ISI HQs are not in rawalpindi
#199 Posted by Layman on August 12, 2004 6:18:26 am
kkkandk #189:
``In their greed to gather more votes, the BJP and the Indian PM decided to formalize their nuclear standing with a series of blasts.``
In the interests of accuracy, I have to say that you are wrong. The BJP had nuclear testing in its manifesto both in 1996 (13-day govt) and 1998. There was no need to gather more votes in May 1998 (period of the tests), since the party had just been elected to power two months earlier (in March 1998).
``In their greed to gather more votes, the BJP and the Indian PM decided to formalize their nuclear standing with a series of blasts.``
In the interests of accuracy, I have to say that you are wrong. The BJP had nuclear testing in its manifesto both in 1996 (13-day govt) and 1998. There was no need to gather more votes in May 1998 (period of the tests), since the party had just been elected to power two months earlier (in March 1998).
#198 Posted by veeresh on August 11, 2004 10:13:57 pm
Omar/193 - what about my letters to the Editor at Dawn, would you be inclined to assist, considering all that we`ve been through together?
And I continue to be heart-broken.
I hope at least you have figured out the references to certain buildings in Rawalpindi, now that the soldiers have been released? But what about the rest, what about them?
And I continue to be heart-broken.
I hope at least you have figured out the references to certain buildings in Rawalpindi, now that the soldiers have been released? But what about the rest, what about them?
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