Veeresh Malik August 1, 2004
#229 Posted by halur on August 15, 2004 12:04:08 am
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Indians have many crosses to bear, but their women need not go around in burlap sacks.
You care about the reputation of the burqua brigade, mumbai chicks are way beyond your league.
Indians have many crosses to bear, but their women need not go around in burlap sacks.
You care about the reputation of the burqua brigade, mumbai chicks are way beyond your league.
#228 Posted by ballukhan on August 14, 2004 11:15:17 pm
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Please note! Freddie (BC) is back to terrorize the board!!
#227 Posted by halur on August 14, 2004 11:15:16 pm
Don`t get ahead of yourself . At the Olympics, beef eating pakistanis are as pathetic or even more so than the dal eating indians. the burqa brigade does not even participate..
As for as the good looks, save it for the burqa brigade, they take what they can get. the saree clad regiment uses it`s brains..
As for as the good looks, save it for the burqa brigade, they take what they can get. the saree clad regiment uses it`s brains..
#226 Posted by veeresh on August 14, 2004 9:35:42 pm
rajsinghi1/218 what I mean is that over the last few centuries (honourable exceptions aside) the rulers of our part of the world have, in their wisdom, sold out cheap to whoever chose to come our way either by sea or by land, by sword or by trade. We may wish to segregate them into different groups - monarchs, generals, democratically elected rulers, mind-benders, accountants, the works - but fact remains the same.
Currently we blame the generals in Pakistan and the politicians in India, but would it have been much different if it was otherwise?
In that context, research on who hates/loves Hindus/Muslims is kind of a non-issue?
kkkandk/On the issue of imprisoned soldiers from India, going back to 1971, may I suggest you search the Internet? Pakistani prisoners were released, but due to a variety of reasons, the Indians never were. This includes soldiers who were photographed in Pakistani custody after well after 1971 but never released. During my last trip to Pakistan I heard more than enough rumours on this subject in `Pindi. Interestingly, the Pakistani Government had clearly stated after the Agra talks that there were simply no Indian POWs in their captivity, but now they released two who were there in Pakistan from 1999. This whole issue has become what looks like an ego thing. The Indian media writes on it frequently; the Pakistani media doesn`t.
Currently we blame the generals in Pakistan and the politicians in India, but would it have been much different if it was otherwise?
In that context, research on who hates/loves Hindus/Muslims is kind of a non-issue?
kkkandk/On the issue of imprisoned soldiers from India, going back to 1971, may I suggest you search the Internet? Pakistani prisoners were released, but due to a variety of reasons, the Indians never were. This includes soldiers who were photographed in Pakistani custody after well after 1971 but never released. During my last trip to Pakistan I heard more than enough rumours on this subject in `Pindi. Interestingly, the Pakistani Government had clearly stated after the Agra talks that there were simply no Indian POWs in their captivity, but now they released two who were there in Pakistan from 1999. This whole issue has become what looks like an ego thing. The Indian media writes on it frequently; the Pakistani media doesn`t.
#225 Posted by kkkandk on August 14, 2004 5:23:20 pm
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#224 Posted by kkkandk on August 14, 2004 3:20:01 pm
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#223 Posted by kkkandk on August 14, 2004 3:20:00 pm
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#222 Posted by halur on August 14, 2004 1:52:06 pm
mumbaichick,
You are to,quote to quote our resident Dawn reporter ``filled with hate``.
-- Pakistanis look like Adonis. Before you gigle, think about Alexander`s army. What do you think they ddid uring the long hut summer?
-- Indians did not get the benefit of this miscgenation.
-- Ergo, the good looks of the pakistanis.
-- No pakistani women can ever, ever prefer indian men to pakistani women.I mean how can one eat daal /roti when one is used to beef steak ?
-- indian females abandon dignity and self-respect when a pakistani male is nearby
Surely u write after having been frustrated in this pursuit?
You are to,quote to quote our resident Dawn reporter ``filled with hate``.
-- Pakistanis look like Adonis. Before you gigle, think about Alexander`s army. What do you think they ddid uring the long hut summer?
-- Indians did not get the benefit of this miscgenation.
-- Ergo, the good looks of the pakistanis.
-- No pakistani women can ever, ever prefer indian men to pakistani women.I mean how can one eat daal /roti when one is used to beef steak ?
-- indian females abandon dignity and self-respect when a pakistani male is nearby
Surely u write after having been frustrated in this pursuit?
#221 Posted by mumbaichick on August 14, 2004 12:38:40 pm
KKK are you trying to somehow prove that Feroz Gandhi was a Muslim and that Rajiv and Sanjay were half-Muslim and that Indira Gandhi could not stay away from Muslim men? That may very well be (it was her own personal issue), but she sure showed her liking for Paki Muslim men by imprisoning almost 100,000 in 1971. However, if she was that partial to such men, why did she release them back to Pakiland?
Stop your so-called research or I will be telling you stories about the thousands of Muslim women who refused to be ``rescued`` back to Pakiland and chose to live their lives with Sikh husbands during the partition days. It is better to leave these things under the covers.
Stop your so-called research or I will be telling you stories about the thousands of Muslim women who refused to be ``rescued`` back to Pakiland and chose to live their lives with Sikh husbands during the partition days. It is better to leave these things under the covers.
#220 Posted by kkkandk on August 14, 2004 7:01:12 am
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#219 Posted by rajsinghi1 on August 14, 2004 1:51:57 am
Veeresh
Post #217
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And tradition has it that our rulers, whatsoever they be, kings, generals, politicians, mind-benders, civil servants, et al. . . they all seem to sell their backsides rather too cheap.
Please elaborate. Above quoted part is not clear.
Post #217
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And tradition has it that our rulers, whatsoever they be, kings, generals, politicians, mind-benders, civil servants, et al. . . they all seem to sell their backsides rather too cheap.
Please elaborate. Above quoted part is not clear.
#218 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on August 14, 2004 1:51:57 am
kkkandk -- yaar im warning u for your own sake -- no point in debates with morons passing off as wannabe intellectuals -- their hate doesnt allow it -- did u see the amitabh-nadeem board and remarks by some of the indian interactors? i believe it was mr rahulmal who gave the rather dandy suggestion that omair alavi (the writer of the piece) should have first written an article on pakistan`s film industry so that the indians on chowk, who according to mr mal didnt even know that movies are made in pakistan, could get a bit of a background -- how positively quaint ! hahaha - i mean barachota do you really want to engage in a discourse with such misinformed lunatics? do you?
#217 Posted by veeresh on August 13, 2004 7:00:56 pm
kkkandk/211, Sirji, what I am saying is that history as well as that amazing lizard known as ``truth`` tend to be written by the victors AND in addition tend to vary to fit in with the environment.
So I do not think truths will ever be known.
Yes, I did stumble upon a lot of ``inputs`` when I was researching Netaji Subhash Bose.
I don`t know about ``The Sword of Truth``, but, yes, vast dollops of truth emerge from what I would call the Karachi/Bombay and Lahore/Amritsar axii.
These truths are, then, re-written to suit Delhi & Islamabad. Thus leading to a constant state of flux and no conclusions.
That`s what I think. I hope that satisfies you? Though I think it doesn`t.
As I said before, traditions out-perform history towards attaining logical deductions.
And tradition has it that our rulers, whatsoever they be, kings, generals, politicians, mind-benders, civil servants, et al. . . they all seem to sell their backsides rather too cheap.
Now, fit that in with any history, and see what direction the truth takes?
Incidentally, since you seem to hide a lot of awareness, be a good person and do some research on the truth behind Indian soldiers locked up in Pakistan for decades, and bring that to closure, too, if possible?
So I do not think truths will ever be known.
Yes, I did stumble upon a lot of ``inputs`` when I was researching Netaji Subhash Bose.
I don`t know about ``The Sword of Truth``, but, yes, vast dollops of truth emerge from what I would call the Karachi/Bombay and Lahore/Amritsar axii.
These truths are, then, re-written to suit Delhi & Islamabad. Thus leading to a constant state of flux and no conclusions.
That`s what I think. I hope that satisfies you? Though I think it doesn`t.
As I said before, traditions out-perform history towards attaining logical deductions.
And tradition has it that our rulers, whatsoever they be, kings, generals, politicians, mind-benders, civil servants, et al. . . they all seem to sell their backsides rather too cheap.
Now, fit that in with any history, and see what direction the truth takes?
Incidentally, since you seem to hide a lot of awareness, be a good person and do some research on the truth behind Indian soldiers locked up in Pakistan for decades, and bring that to closure, too, if possible?
#216 Posted by nikki7777 on August 13, 2004 6:41:43 pm
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#215 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 4:29:14 pm
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#214 Posted by kkkandk on August 13, 2004 4:22:45 pm
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