Train to Pakistan 2004: La, Hore?

re:#417 by tahmed32
I had posted on Chowk (some months ago) the comparisons between Indian and Pakistani Punjab. Look it up if u Know how to search for posts in Chowk (my search yielded nothing). There are some interesting comparisons.
Sridhar

Firstly, I don`t know who this gujju fellow is as I am new here. Secondly I am who I am. Why would I pose to be someone else. I am retired Brigadiere in Pakistan Army. The reason why my nick is LtCol.Rathore is because I liked it when I was a Col. Less politics and more command. After being promoted it was less command and more politics. Well, is the hatred between 2 countries so much that people fake ID`s and then insult each other?
Well, that is beyond me, as I have always led a life of truth and honesty, as a true Rajput would. Please don`t ask me for my credentials. Go to Sialkot and then take a bus to Chawinda. There somewhere in between the Tanks you might be able to see the spots of blood I have shed for my Homeland. I was in 25Cavalry, commanded by the Tiger, Lieutenant Colonel Nisar. I don`t have to prove anything to anybody. Specially ungrateful Pakistanis who have forgotten the sacrifices given by their forefathers.
All I can say to you people is that none of you Indians and Pakistanis , have seen a war, or faught one. I have. I have seen death, have been fired at and have killed. So, my advice is propogate peace and love. I understand that there is a cultural divide, but we still have to be peaceful. War only brings about death and destruction.

Omar
//...that`s another way of you saying that Pakistan should be part of India (where, you would wish wouldnt you, it belonged) ...//

Omar seems to be the most excited member of the new Club named PMS (Paki Mutual-Admiration Sorority)

Omar dahling - dont worry. Nobody wants pakiland to be part of anything. Nobody wants to touch a wh0re with confirmed AIDS affliction (or a land with jihadi affliction) - not with a ten-foot barge pole. So take it easy.

But Bennet-Coleman taking over DAWN is possible. Just like that M2 motorway. Banias are very cunning people, you know. So from your empolyment point of view - start worrying.

Oh boy - entire Paki brigrade seem to be collectively in heat :)) I told you - Paki Mutual Admiration Sorority is a good idea.

Anyway - why is there so much bitterness/jealousy whenever an article/person says something positive about india?

Personally, I don`t really care much about the positive forecasts and high-priced Gartner Reports about how India is going to land of milk and honey in next 35/50/100 years. Because from the way the gov`t/parties are going right now - India has no chance in anything in next million years. I mean, come on, we have Laloos running ministries, a silly italian pulling strings from her kitchen ...... and best of all - we have a Prime Minister prostrating in front of the italian`s infant grand-son - as gesture of loyalty to the ``Family``.

Last heard on NPR - that southern province in China (called manufacturing mecca of the world) is running out of people to work in their factories - their economy is overheating.

And speaking of ``overheat`` - here in chowk we have a bunch of pakis overheating over a silly article that said something positive about their pet-hate India.

So pakis - don`t over-react - take it easy. Allah pubh has answered your prayers !! Hindus are not galloping anywhere soon. Rest assured - they would be right there with you pathetic pakis - at best may be a few steps up in the ladder in some ways.

Nikki #424,
Thanks. How does that compares with Pakistan? Is there a similar stats available anywhere?

#424 - Nikki -
Don`t worry - I found details on Pakistan & India
Pakistan

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Roads and highways
Total roads = 251,845 kms
High type = 151,028 kms
Low type = 100,817 kms

% in highways = 3.5%
Length of highways = 8845 kms (account for 65% of traffic)

India

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Length(In Km)
National Highways 58,112*
State Highways 1,37,119
Major District Roads 4,70,000
Village and Other Roads 26,50,000
Total Length 33,15,231
*National Highways are less than 2 % of network but carry 40% of total traffic

#424 - Nikki -
Don`t worry - I found details on Pakistan & India
Pakistan

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Roads and highways
Total roads = 251,845 kms
High type = 151,028 kms
Low type = 100,817 kms

% in highways = 3.5%
Length of highways = 8845 kms (account for 65% of traffic)

India

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Length(In Km)
National Highways 58,112*
State Highways 1,37,119
Major District Roads 4,70,000
Village and Other Roads 26,50,000
Total Length 33,15,231
*National Highways are less than 2 % of network but carry 40% of total traffic

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Hey people,
Are rumors true that Dawn has decided not to publish rants from few of its own employees and they have to come to chowk ......? Or is it just a case of under-emloyment?

And talking about roads, I do remember travelling on Bombay-Puna road in early 80s and it was a decent fast trip. I am note sure about its status now.

Daewoo highway in Pakistan must be great thing. Can some travel aficionado write about conditions of other highways in Pakistan (and India)?

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Let me guess - with the opening up of religious and tourist visas on a minimum spend basis, I can see how the next Kumbh Mela on the banks of all of the tributaries of the Indus would really get the wind up your sails, with 10-15 crore Indians croossing over for a bath and a bit of shopping.

The bus across Kashmir LOC, Gujarat and Rajasthan IB and the boat from Mumbai to Karachi are already on. Publications from India will be freely available in Pakistan, with newspapers at 2 rupees and magazines at 10 rupees.

And remember, you heard it here, the old DAWN office in Daryaganj, is being spring-cleaned and readied.

That would be poetic justice, DAWN now part of Bennet Coleman (where it belonged).



MAJOR BEAR ALERT -- haha

eerrr sorry to disappoint you shri veeresh jee but till last reports came in the ajk bus is off -- both countries have differences over what documents to use -- india actually insisted on using passports and in a sense admitting that AJK (or POK as the indian media calls it) was part of pakistan -- as for delhi munabao, im surprised at your sources/contacts dear bear jee because thats not happening for at least three years because the rail track from nagarparkar to the border itself has to be built from scratch -- as for Dawn being part of Bennet Coleman, that`s another way of you saying that Pakistan should be part of India (where, you would wish wouldnt you, it belonged) -- no such things happening any time soon -- but if you come to Dawn`s karachi office, i will show you around and of course also show you that `article` --

gujju you`re a bigger idiot to believe lt col rathore, unless of course its you in the first place -- rsridhar, there is another website out there i believe which you should probably expend your very many energies on -- www.indiaisthebestandtherestareshit.com

gujju alias shamsul alias LtColRathore alias muslimextremist: You are a liar. And like all liars, you think you are cleverer than you really are. Changing your identity on chowk is not as simple as changing nicks, you stupid man.

rsridhar #413 On food production, this has been an international success. Even bangladesh (where some terrible famines occured under the brits) is now free. The main credit goes to international agencies that developed superior foodcrop varieties (maxi-pak wheat, IRRI rice and others), and from which poor countries the world over, including india and pakistan, have benefitted. Fertilizers, pesticides, farm machinery have also made contributions. So India, like Pakistan, is by and large a beneficiary of these contributions of international agencies.

Where india is ahead is in land reforms - on the other hand, pakistan panjab is now ahead of indian panjab in the sense of having moved into cash crops (which are generally considered a step beyond foodcrops, and are more profitable) whereas indian panjab is focussed on foodcrops. also, indian agriculture (at least in the panjab, i am not familiar with other parts) is quite heavily subsidized by the indian government (mostly for political reasons of keeping food production up and of keeping separatist tendencies down), whereas pakistani agriculture is not (since here panjab IS the bulk of pakistan anyway, and there are no political incentives for the government).

The place where success in food production is most striking is in fact the US: at the turn of the 20th century, 50 percent of the labor force in the US was employed in agriculture. At the end of the 20th century, the figure had been brought to under 1 percent! and they were paying farmers NOT to produce, and thus to maintain farm prices.

veeresh #412 ``Lahore is a small serai ``. If a place of 10 million, and one with a vibrant culture to boot, is a small serai, I wonder what your definition of a city is. :-)

#410

It`s just an article I came across, didnt say it was my view. Neither do I believe reports coming from Goldman Sach`s, McKinsey`s or any other high-brow consulting places. Sometimes we Indian`s behave as if all the things mentioned in these reports: the million`s of international service sector jobs, the 3rd largest economy are all in the bag. There are many a slip between this cup and our lips.