The Dragon’s Teeth

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Arjum

Excellent question. As the new geopolitical situation has emerged on the Western front of Pakistan after the occupation of Afghanistan by US and Iran`s nuclear ambitions as well as political aspirations in Iraq, US desperately needs Pakistan`s military presence on its Western front. This objective cannot be achieved unless a modicum of peace is enacted between India and Pakistan even if it is just an artificial facade. India wins in this case because it gets relatively less intervention from Pakistan which enables it to buy time while it crushes the freedom movement in Kashmir with brute power; Pakistan wins because military regime gets its prize/price to keep its military industrial complex running. It is a win-win situation albiet a temporary one. The fact of the matter, however, is that with a nuclear detente established between India and Pakistan, military regime is even more desperate to depend on the militias such as JeM etc. because military brass understands it perfectly well that this manna from heaven (i.e. US aid) is temporary. It is just matter of time that they will have to evacuate Afghanistan; even if we add another 4 years of Bush, still it is a very short time. So there is an understanding between militias and the military establishment. If there is anything happening to memebers of militias even after assassination attempt on Musharaf, it is superficial. In other words, military establishment is walking on razor edge to satisfy not only domestic as well as international audiences. All the ``masterminds`` and all the ``number ones`` who had planned to kill Mushsraf and army has apprehended are always alleged to be memebers of al-qaida and not JeM. Take for example, the case of Amjad Farooqi, recently.

The thread did not suddenly appear on Sep 11, 2001 although it provided a theoretical underpinning to justify most of what had already been happening. The tall afghans were wiping out entire towns (remember mazar-e-shariff?) with help from their pakistani cousins. Also the noise generated by the ``war on terror`` drowned out the noise from other wars such as intifada so the organized state apparatus can proceed without hindrance.
The cynical manipulation of the events of Sep 11, 2001 has taken the edge away from those events. When hundreds of civilians are bombed as collective punishment, the concept of ``innocent civilians`` recedes into abstraction and there are no innocent civilians any more, especially in a democracy. Even those who are outraged that a commercial building was attacked, may not be so outraged that the seat of military power was attacked.

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Conspiracy theories? Hardly.

Just ask yourself this question - the way the war on `terra` is going on in Pakistan and the way the Pakistani authorities have killed, captured and handed over the alleged Al-Qaida operatives to US, Pakistan should have been the prime Al-Qaida target. In a country where corruption and lawlessness has seeped to the core of the bones, pulling off something like Bali Bombing or something at the scale of Madrid Bombing is a piece of cake for AQ. The people of Pakistan are safe from a clamity of such a scale, only and only because they are Muslims. So far Al-Qaida has only targetted the officials, as it is alleged. The fact of the matter is that Government of Pakistan (an oxymoron) is fighting an absolutely unpopular foreign war on behest of rogue international states. Even if people disagree with the methods used by al-qaida that it uses to fight its war, there is no disagreement on the reasons why they are fighting this war. In order, to demonize and discredit their foe (a necessary component of modern warfare) ISI & CIA have to pull-off murderous stunts like Imambargah bombings. These two organizations can even pull-off something at the scale of Madrid Bombing to sway the public opinion in their favor, but such a shananigan may backfire for an unrepresentative government whose very legitmacy is questionable under the constitution of own country and international norms. So they resort to targetting voiceless minorities like Shias or even more voiceless christians who have nothing to do with anything. In case of targeting shias they kill two birds in one stone - on homefront they give disenfranchised people an impression that a stern government is the need of the day even if it is illegitimate and second it helps isolate Iran as discussed below.

Dismissing every thing on the Basis of Conspiracy theories.....does not helps....

Too many questions remains unanswered..... Unless the Official Spokes Man from

the Pentagon/CiA/USA preach the word of God......Or on a Devine Mission......

Look at the straight Face with Bush .... unashamedly ....Tells all the Lies about....

His former Bussiness Partner aka OBL and WMD and the need to get-rid of terror...

or is it... Rid Terror on the world....

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so CIA is funding saudis, who are funding sipah e sahaba so as to neutralise Iran and ISI has just entered the Mujrah, yaar yeh kis na deeda insaan ne khabar di hai?

Re:#13

Check out this link on dawn

http://www.dawn.com/2004/10/02/top1.htm

It mentions that it was a suicide bomber who detonated the blast in Sialkot

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Usrtruly:
Let me nibble the bait and ask: ``Then why a bomb blast in an Imambargah and not in a mosque?``

#13 Urstruely

Are you saying that there was no bomb either?

So the plan is keep attacking shias hoping that iran starts getting interested, then use isi to cause trouble in iran. This is brilliant. Did not see this possibility. How big is isi, and how is it indoctrinated? Or is it simply like a mafia organization, works for money. Is it not a hierarchy? in which case, a policy has to be inplace, no?

Amit

where did you get the info that it was an act of a suicide bomber. I rest my case.

The so called toxic elements have been funded by CIA for atleast 25 years since Iranian revolution mostly thru Saudis. They work for those who fund them. Stop the funding, and they will stop too. But currently they are needed more than ever before to corner Iran. ISI has just begun to be a major player in this game - the new middle man if you will.

Re:urstruly

Are you actually suggesting that the CIA and ISI are hiring suicide bombers in Pakistan? Why not blame RAW while you are at it? This is totally ludicrous. If the CIA wanted to create shia-sunni hatred, at worst they might organize a bomb blast, but hiring suicide bombers is a typical jihadi tactic. You are in serious denial that this is the work of sunni extremists, the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi types who have a venomous hatred against shias. These elements have become a toxic component of your society and it is high time you recognize the threat and start eliminating it.