Zaheera’s Jihad

One ballukhan #41 is far more effective in rallying all Indians to the side of justice than many articles by Farzana Versey.

It is time for some hard pill for those murderers-

I would prefer some vigilante executions of those clearly identified by Zaheera than waiting for the courts to pull up with those stupid proceedings. Only then these rioters would think twice before commiting such atrocities in the future.......Deterrence against such acts would be achieved only after the real rioters are clearly punished before the public!!!

jang

{the ``correct`` way of balm comes from people who trust zaheera, and who have her welfare in their heart. }

you can rest assured that this lady does not give a damn about zaheera ... there is nobody on chowk in a position to help zaheera, and this lady knows that...but her goal is never to help these people, it is to get reassurance for her `journalistic` abilities from some rabid pakis who frequent chowk...

dang..i should have realised my mistake.

anyhoo, i wrote this post for rsaxenas sake.

the ``correct`` way of balm comes from people who trust zaheera, and who have her welfare in their heart. her family, her neighbors. as i pointed out unfortunately, in the de-humanizing poverty (FV Please note: this type of verbiage is stylish..) that zaheera probably lives, even the family and neighbors are sometimes preying raptors.

haha - still only 37 posts, of which a few are her own....lady, getting pissed isn`t going to bring up the post count....try something different next time?...maybe you can call for killing of hindu civilians or something?

FV-ji:

Maybe Zaheera just experienced what some other writer described on another board but had that realization come much earlier than 55+ years.

[Dear Dost-mittarji:

This was most touching and relevant. I maintain that history cannot be erased, at least not from memory. I had said this on Mr. Gill`s board and I repeat...I find that those who have experienced the Partition are not so bitter today or do not react as strongly to contemporary happenings of a similar nature, though nothing can be as wrenching.]

Farzana,
Who took away her anonymity? The media? Shouldn`t they bear some of the blame, too, for what went wrong?
I don`t doubt that Zaheera needed help and support, and it doesn`t look like she got it from Teesta Setalvad. But so did all the thousands who lost family, home and livelihood. Indians in general, and the state in particular, can be extrememly callous. It does look like the state has failed Zaheera, and a new government at the centre appears to have made no difference. What is the point in getting on one`s high horse and changing textbooks when this continues to happen to Zaheera?

#32 by waraich:

I am glad you wrote this post. I have mentioned in my article about the need for psychiatric care; people just don`t seem to understand how the victims, and even observers, can get affected.

She has become the poster-girl unfortunately, therefore anonymity from the media would be impossible. Had her identity been shielded right form the beginning, she would have been truly an important witness and a voice. I am not too sure, though, whether such voices really get heard.

Are you aware that today there are very few voices in her favour?

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#31 by jang:

Please do not call issues like these ``re-gurges``...if this is so, then there must be no discussion on Bush, Iraq, Arafat, Sonia, Uma....everything. Besides, as I just said, there are very few voices in favour of Zaheera. So, there is not even a regurgitation.

re. stylised writing, you are the first person to say so...I have been accused of being too emotional and raw. (Comparisons are odious, but I have already said so on the concerned board that criticising what is in other people`s backyard is easier than commenting on what happens in one`s own. Which is why I have lived through the flak, alas, lived to tell many a tale.)...Suddenly my `green tiles` have become alive to you?

Anyhow, advice is not a problem at all.

[(shoud it not be realize?) ]

Should `shoud` not be `should`?! Okay, realise is realise in English. I try and avoid American spelling; I also do not confuse gender (``you da man``)!

waraich:
...couldn`t have said it better myself.

Farzana:
You say:

Anyone who has undergone what she did would begin to be suspicious of people...the `aid bazaar` is a huge conglomerate with incestuous values.

Do you have any shred of evidence at all that the NGOs did it for the money? If so, please do share it with us. A lot of people have stuck their necks out for Zaheera & countless others. Do you think that`s easy? Don`t you understand the kind of people they are fighting? They`re putting their lives on the line here. Whenever you feel like attributing motives to people, take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror.

Yes Zaheera needed some crisis intervention, so did the ones who escaped the carnage yet had their lives inexorably altered forever as they watched the mutilated bodies of once loved ones scattered around them while all they could do was hide or run and hope they didnt end up there. Or did they? a lot of them will suffer from Post traumatic disorder and live out their lives with the dead coming back to haunt them. Yes , and Narendra Modi will continue to sleep in peace in his bed as did Indira Gandhi till her demons caught up with her. The Sikh Pogroms of 1984 ( surely riots is a misnomer, it was all one sided) unfrotunately were the downfall of Rajiv Gandhi as well as in his grief for his mother he forgot his duties as Head of State and feigned ignorance about the mayhem that ensued. And the pogroms in Meerut by the PAC years back, and the Gujarat pogroms, they all continue while we carry on oblivious . The entire world has heard of the Gujarat massacres, yet we justify them almost by the Godhra incident. In a land where Sati is still consecrated, girls killed in the womb till an entire village doesnt have a single girl born for years, where we worship the Mother Goddess in various forms and then callously go out and eve tease the girls of today, after all they ask for it in the clothes they wear? It is an ancient land still caught up in the savagery of ages gone by, the fact that it is an anti muslim or anti sikh riot is only incidental.
What Zaheera is or did go through is something we dont know? She did possibly and hopefully have Narendra Modi tossing and turning in fear for a while but is it just upto her to undo him? Is it not upto us all? America reelected Bush in fear- a nation in war rarely deposes the head of head, they say. Gujarat was at war too and we reelected Modi. Of course even a man held in high esteem like Vajpayee dithered and went back on his criticism of Modi. If he couldnt stick to his words, a man who people look upto as one of great moral character, why should they expect Zaheera, a poor muslim girl from a community where a girl darent even speak up to her father or later to her husband even if they beat her and rape her ( as does happen to muslim and hindu girls as well) to continue to go through what she has day in and day out. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE TO SEE THAT HER TRAUMA IS LESSENED PERHAPS BY PROVIDING SOME ANONYMITY FROM THE MEDIA, SOME COUNSELLING FROM TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, SO THAT SHE IS CALLED ONLY WHEN ESSENTIAL AND AFTER THE STATEMENT AND COUNTER QUESTIONING ALLOWED TO LIVE IN PEACE. aGAIN IT IS THE STATE THAT HAS FAILED. i SAY ZAHEERA STOOD UP BETTER THAN VAJPAYEE, IF HE COULDNT STICK TO HIS GUNS, THIS FRAGILE POOR GIRL SURELY couldnt.

FV
``Real men do it, they don`t keep count. ``

you da man.

#29 by FarzanaVersey

``And anyway, people who do not live in my country, and are not directly affected by what is happening, should realise that their windows are sealed. ``

(shoud it not be realize?)

this caught my attention. one request..can you write more about real experiences? re-gurges like zahira stories etc are fine, but tough to make a real impact on jaded short-attention-span unreal men. what connects is an honest log without worrying about political correctness .. this is where veeresh comes alive..he may stink to some, and hence he gets much scorn both regarding contents and style, but its raw stuff. your stuff is stylized, but could easily written merely by reading other news items, hence less alive..are you afraid?
(ps. your visit to ladies toilet with green tiles was very alive)

hope you dont mind the unsolicited advice, but this is how i think.

Zaheera should be your problem, not that of Pakistanis...

Re. how I use my time to better support such causes, I know what I am doing...I do not have to announce on the boards here that I am ready to donate for this or that cause. I know it sounds noble and awfully cute...but that is not what one is here for.

And anyway, people who do not live in my country, and are not directly affected by what is happening, should realise that their windows are sealed. Unless contributing to the VHP fund counts as more productive work.

Re. interacts, I am touched and quite amused by how some people think it is so important...I don`t, which is why I also submit poetry...

If you have anything better, just go and act upon it, instead of keeping track of the interacts. Real men do it, they don`t keep count.

Best wishes.

#27, RS Jang out it very well in #25 when he/she says

``everyone is using zaheera..ferzana for her writing career and rest of us chowkies for pushing our views, so be it. ``

whatmore can one sy - 28 posts inspite of the kashmir word thrown in for good measure in the first interact.....may be we are all tiring of the lady...she needs some more flies in the soup ....

this lady must be getting pissed....only 26 posts...few pakis in here to support their fellow countrywoman...what`s going on here

Dear Farzana:

``Now, if the only way the truth I bring out can get legitimacy is by losing my life, tau jaan haazir hai. ...``

Instead of sacrificing life... offer of your time to organize better support would be so much more productive...

Eid Mubaraak.

Anil

``#20 by FarzanaVersey on November 10, 2004 10:49am PT
Yes, I look from my window...everyone does. Zaheera, the activists, the government. No one can be the person they speak about, for or against. It is not that one sees through a window, but what one manages to see, what one finds and what one registers and is willing to talk about rather than turn a blind eye to.

I have already called Zaheera a pawn; today the activist involved has finally said that she (Zaheera) is a victim...

And now I hear that my criticism of Indira Gandhi and Lata Mangeshkar is because they are ``Hindus``! Talk of looking through a window.... ``

FV,

In long run who will win? Modi by YOUR choice, attitude and window. I would have to vote for him. My window, don`t you get it?

Don`t you understand the difference. In India Modi will crop up and rule. So did Gazanavi, Ghauri and...But only for time being. He is not a rule but ...In Saudi..In pakistan...He is the rule. Did, does and will always rule unless that idiot called Monto manages to communicate his message. Fat chance.

Likes of you make Modi attractive. You simply portray hate as only hate of hindoos and still want to live with them. That is what make you a Hipo in Hindoo world. They too have a world they live in...Believe me they have a house, a window and a door. Thay actually have a broom too.

I will add your dislikes shown .. someone called Rai, your write up on Jemima. Also your ``prem`` shown to some one who wrote ``Lajja``.

Write one single article on why Islam is not THE whatever for woman, could you. NO. Look out from the window and blame the hands, legs and hearts that feed you.

Become yours truely

Yogiraj

everyone is using zaheera..ferzana for her writing career and rest of us chowkies for pushing our views, so be it.

zaheeras father passed away a month before the riots, and was himself a poor migrant from UP.

considering zaheeras bad karma, riots notwithstanding, please focus what her life would be without all the hoopla and attention? given her backgound, if lucky, she would have 4 kids by the time she is 25, in life-long servitude of her husbands family, aneamic and possibly carrying STDs (anniversary gift from hubby), enjoying Jee-TV dramas for entertainment, and fighting for water every day to wash her and her families behinds.

unlucky scenarios clearly (?) are much worse.

the hoopla is perhaps NOT the worst thing that happened to her.

#22 by anil:

[My emphasis is not the window, and do doubt we all do this. Somehow I feel that peopple like yourself, can do a lot more to bring the truth out. During the civil rights movement many lives among those who were trying to bring the truth out, were lost. I for one cannot blame Zaheera for not able to speak up the truth. A strong and committed support system is needed first.]

Now, if the only way the truth I bring out can get legitimacy is by losing my life, tau jaan haazir hai. But this only sounds so nice and easy; people were trying to bring out the truth, in their own ways. We do what we are capable of -- for me it is through words. Everything one does can be misinterpreted, so I guess that is something one has to deal with. If some people have read it and are thinking about it (if they hadn`t already), then for me it is a small step.

I assume you have read the whole article; I have NOT blamed Zaheera; quite the contrary...

``Why on earth does anyone expect Zaheera to have an ideology? If you saw your home burned down, your sister and uncle being killed, four little children being roasted alive, would you be sane enough to think straight? Would you forget the fact that you have been cringing on a rooftop as a hundred people are urged by a police officer to finish everyone off as they threw bricks and petrol on your premises? This was home and livelihood.``

``Suddenly, her bravery is being forgotten and she is being called just another opportunist.``

``They are asking why the Gujarat government is ‘protecting’ Zaheera now. This is a strange query. She has gone on record to say that her life was in danger; she has no doubt done a flip-flop before the court, but she has not denied that people were killed. She is only refusing to identity the attackers.``

I have had to repeat all this because there is a tendency for people to see only what they wish to. Not many have even bothered to look at the long section on NGOs...

Too often who is saying something gets more prominence than what is being said.

Dear Farzana:

``#20 Yes, I look from my window...everyone does. Zaheera, the activists, the government. No one can be the person they speak about, for or against. It is not that one sees through a window, but what one manages to see, what one finds and what one registers and is willing to talk about rather than turn a blind eye to.``

My emphasis is not the window, and do doubt we all do this. Somehow I feel that peopple like yourself, can do a lot more to bring the truth out. During the civil rights movement many lives among those who were trying to bring the truth out, were lost. I for one cannot blame Zaheera for not able to speak up the truth. A strong and committed support system is needed first.

Anil

Dear Farzana:
Yes, Gujarat riots are very much a muslim issue. [I should add that it is or should also be a Hindu issue].

Yes, I look from my window...everyone does. Zaheera, the activists, the government. No one can be the person they speak about, for or against. It is not that one sees through a window, but what one manages to see, what one finds and what one registers and is willing to talk about rather than turn a blind eye to.

I have already called Zaheera a pawn; today the activist involved has finally said that she (Zaheera) is a victim...

And now I hear that my criticism of Indira Gandhi and Lata Mangeshkar is because they are ``Hindus``! Talk of looking through a window....

Re. bringing in Kashmir, take a look at this unprovoked nonsense...

[#5 by rsaxena on November 9, 2004 9:46am PT
kashmiri pandits deserve to die according to farzana versey, but yet she has no shame in writing articles like this ]

Anyhow, when there are valid comparisons, I will bring them in. Draw your own conclusion. You have to live with it.
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dost-mittarji:

The whole idea was to use Zaheera, and she has been in a vulnerable position. Anyone who has undergone what she did would begin to be suspicious of people...the `aid bazaar` is a huge conglomerate with incestuous values.

Re. Kashmir, I urge you to read the whole sentence in my post #10: ``Re. my reference to ``Muslim problem``, in this particular context it is about even activists refusing to openly call it a Muslim issue. I find this strange. The Gujarat riots were indeed targeted at the Muslim community. And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not.``

I have been watching TV discussions and am truly disheartened that to uphold secular credentials people must deny the Muslim problem in Gujarat. Here the Establishment was involved in targeting the community; the government was in power and was allowed to remain in power. The same cannot be said about Kashmir. (My views are known on that, there are articles on the subject...)

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veeresh:
[FV/10 - well, I am not skipping it because of anything other than fatigue. Communal problems of all sorts eventually go to committees and enquiries and eventually get compromised basis whoever has deeper pockets, pre-emptive skills and staying powers in ever-changing environments]

You are right and I have pointed it out...but I always hope that individual fatigue does not set in...we do what we can, in our limited ways. Complacency of thought is anathema.

Re. the rest, will let you know some other time is there are any factual errors:)

Kaura, thanks for the reference.

The skull beneath the skin
http://www.littlemag.com/ghosts/antaradevsen.html



baaghiraja,

People`s responses to Farzana`s articles don`t do justice to their own stands on various issues. Many of us have no faith in the author.

The author has a record of using thinly disguised phrases to support the butchery of Kashmiri non Muslims. According to her the thousands of Pandits and Sikhs living as refugees in Delhi left their homes and properties in Kashmir with the intention of defaming Kashmiri Muslims. She has accused these refugees living in squalor in Delhi of betraying the strong bond of Kashmiriyat nurtured by their supportive Muslim brothers. Her gut reaction to most cases of violence in the valley and in Jammu has been that the `Indian government did it.` And she has castigated non Muslim Kashmiri refugees for taking the easy way out of the valley because Jagmohan offered them free tickets.

I personally don`t see what a person of such beliefs and sympathies can contribute to my understanding of Gujrat.

``#10 by FarzanaVersey on November 10, 2004 0:00am PT
A quick note:

If anyone is skipping it because they think I am against Zaheera, then please take a look -- it is important. I have raised questions about NGOs too and quoted people far more relevant than I could ever be.

Re. my reference to ``Muslim problem``, in this particular context it is about even activists refusing to openly call it a Muslim issue. I find this strange. The Gujarat riots were indeed targeted at the Muslim community. And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not. ``

Zaheera is muslim. How can you be against. Every one knows. Muslim right. Hindoos wrong

You bash every hindu. Even Lie. let us start.

Indira Gandhi
Lata mangeshkar.

Could you please send me one word you wrote good about them??? Please use you own article in chowk.

NO it is not personal from my side. It is from yours..

By the way... why dont you and 123 write an article on how woman get driver`s licen.. in Mecca. Sorry. Madina...Sorry. It is not available. PBUH decided....GOD was with him.

Never lie FV. never lie. Fasting will never wash out your sins. In long term you will become... well...Rudalee at the most.

Yogiraj

DM # 14

``If one is talking about corruption, rigged elections, bad governance and broken promises, I agree with you (that Kashmir is not a Muslim problem). But if you are talking about the militancy and separatism, then it is a different matter.``

How well you have captured all I have been trying to say about Kashmir.

For whatever reason, at whoever`s behest, sometime after 1965, the `problem of Kashmir` was turned into a problem of Islam.

Islam offers as many as three mechanisms for removing problems, but does not know anything about solving them.

FV bibiji, think you are missing the point (or rather if you have made one it is lost ) and it is
Is what zaheera saying the truth? If it is then the perpetrators have to be brought to account for themselves and their actions. Now I have no doubt in my mind that what she is saying or alleging has an element of truth in it.

But, for it to stand alone, and hang the people involved, it has to be established beyond reasonable doubt for it to be a criminal case. A balance of probablities will not do here.

The next question which comes up is is she telling us what happened to her or what happened around her. I feel in all this she has lost credibility - call it manipulation what ever - with her flip-flops. here something to mull over-

(a) if she is telling us about what happened to her then she has to establish this beyond reasonable doubt - since she is making specific allegations against specific people. If she is telling us about what she saw happening around her to others (and othese others are not saying anything), she has to establish this on a balance of probabilities. In her flip-flops and various statements these two aspects of her story are merging. She has to decide on which way to go - or rather YOU also have to decided which way you want to go. Mixing the two up and writing a few thousand words will not do justice to your case (that is if you feel you have one!)


(b) In either of these two cases the issue is not one of a muslim problem or one of a hindu problem. The ISSUE ON HAND IS ONE OF LAW andthe RULE OF RULE.

(c) mixing it up with kashmir will not wash. Surely there the problem is on a larger scale and has been reduced to one of a muslim issue by the ideologues of the pakistani hue. from an Indian perspective it is law and order issue.

(d) what Zaheera says in the news paper cannot be held to be the truth and nothing but the truth. they have to be sworn statements by her in court. That she has not done as yet. The fact that you seen to taking these to be the gosple truth is neither here nor there. And statements based on this belief are just rants.

(e)You ask ``Have you seen a government weep or hold your hand? ``. The duty ofthe goverment ends in providing you with rights, and ensuring you fulfil the obligations as a citizen. The State or its representative doesnot have the brief of weeping for an individual or holding the hand of an individual. The state and/or government is not an emotional entity and it doesnot have any emotions (it has to be devoid of emotions). It is upto individuals to hold someelses hand ot weep for them. so if you feel it your duty to hold her hand and weep - please do so and I will also be there to do thesame for you (not literally ) and support the actions - just as Teesta and others do. One cannot and should read into their intentions till they become clear - just one can read into your intentions (and my god there are many here will gladly do so!) and start making allegations about your real intentions.

As a general rule I read your outpourings and stop there - since they often verge on edge of being extremely sensational. Occasionally the target is to good.In this case youhave provided an interesting target (in your writing and not the ones you suggest). If one were to read what you say in your article and the interact below - a simple exercise of interchanging a few characters with you will yield the similar result.

#14 - DM

FV bibiji has no clue....she is given to ranting and she has now thrown this into the soup and just watch the number of interacts rise now. Her article has got nothing to do with Kashmir. So pronto at the first available opportunty she threw in the Kashmir word (she got this in interact 10) .........now watch the numbers increase ...she is a real devil wo-Man ...fiendishly clever....I now getting more certain that she hanlers fater the interact numbers ........

so whats the bet is it going to be 100, 200, or 400 before thsi closes. Right now she has sort of ensured that it will reach atleast 100. When it crosses 100 watch what she does to make it cross 200 ...

And she calls others manipulative......she is a damn good exponent of this on Chowk.....

Dear Farzana:
My heart goes out to zaheera. I wish a less controversial figure than Teesta Setalvad had taken up her cause. She has now become a football between two teams with opposing agendas. In the process, the culprits are now almost certain to go scot free. I dont even know what or if there is a way out.

``And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not.``

Depends upon what one calls the ``Kashmir problem``. If one is talking about corruption, rigged elections, bad governance and broken promises, I agree with you. But if you are talking about the militancy and separatism, then it is a different matter.

Zahira`s N`th U-Turn brought back scenes from an otherwise forgettable movie, Kurukshetra. Sanjay Dutt is an upright officer and fights the corrupt government of Om Puri which is trying to shield a rapist, who happens to be CM`s son. Dutt looses it all and is supported by an opposition politician during his lean patch. Events unfold; Dutt is shot and is hanging between life and death in hospital. In the meantime, the opposition politician, riding on the wave of sympathy generated by Dutt`s predicament makes it big. He mobilizes legislators and finally strikes a deal with the corrupt CM. Dutt realizes he was used as a pawn, gets infuriated and finally shoots the corrupt CM and opposition leader. Movies on similar theme were `New Delhi Times` starring Shashi Kapoor and `Arjun` starring Sunny Deol.

Zahira`s case is typical of the divisions in any society. There are average citizens like Zahira and smart people like Modi and Teesta Seetalvad. The latter exploit the common people and use them as pawns in their heinous game of achieving their bigoted objectives - money, power and recognition. Once the purpose is achieved, these pawns are thrown away. Justice is the only casualty in these power plays as Zaheera would have realized to her horror.

Dear Farzana:

Nothing is lacking in Zaheera. And no less is expected from her tormentors either.

During the civil rights movement in the U.S. such incidences of intimidation and fear were not uncommon. However, what was the most admirable, was the support, for ``Zaheeras`` of the time, to protect them, to give them courage, and to shield them from the fear and intimidation. This support was undeniable and unconditional. The liberal media was born out of this period in the U.S. Only then the justice started to come out, as the truth must be spoken to prevail over the evil. The innocent needs courage to stand up.

Where are the people like yourselves? Those who can indeed be valuable to ``Zaheeras`` of India? Why are they stuck in their distant view from their own window? Certainly it is easy to write from a distant comfort, but for the system to evolve there will be many more Zaheeras, as there will no doubt be many more Modis.... This is certainly given.

Anil

FV/10 - well, I am not skipping it because of anything other than fatigue. Communal problems of all sorts eventually go to committees and enquiries and eventually get compromised basis whoever has deeper pockets, pre-emptive skills and staying powers in ever-changing environments.

However, from your response, I do think Kashmir is not ``made into a Muslim problem``, unless you are referring to the Wahabi Pakhtoon tribesmen brought in from the NWFP and Afghanistan, commanded by bin Laden, to Gilgit to teach the Shi`ites a lesson. And the Punjabis and Pakhtoons from outside, settling them in Gilgit and Baltistan in order to reduce the Kashmiri Shiites to a minority in their traditional land. Yes, that is a Muslim problem. Terrible, I must say. Thank all the Gods of all the denominations that we don`t have such problems in India, Jammu & Kashmir included.

But then again, that`s in POK.

And as you know, heading on the Kashmir Highway out of Islamabad to report on this is well nigh impossible from the checkpost ahead of the Convention Centre Crossing (previously famous for the plastic model of the Atoomi Bombee pointed towards Delhi, since removed due to bad weather.)

In India, where I do think Kashmir, which includes Jammu, Ladakh, and also Gilgit, Baltistan, Srinagar, Valley, Mountains, we have a Hindu and Buddhist and Muslim problem, with Christians added for good measure (remember the convent at Baramulla in 1948?). We don`t have a Jewish problem because the Israeli tourists and visitors in Srinagar and beyond, in their thousands, have been known to teach the local thugs, erm . . . freedom fighters, a thing or two, please see the latest issue of Outlook on this subject.

I hope you will stand corrected, and if there have been any factual errors on my part, you will let me know.

A quick note:

If anyone is skipping it because they think I am against Zaheera, then please take a look -- it is important. I have raised questions about NGOs too and quoted people far more relevant than I could ever be.

Re. my reference to ``Muslim problem``, in this particular context it is about even activists refusing to openly call it a Muslim issue. I find this strange. The Gujarat riots were indeed targeted at the Muslim community. And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not.

PS: Personal comments against me will not lessen the crimes or altar the truth as has been exposed.

nfp

i never condoned violence any gujarat..the hypocritical writer of this article condones violence against non-muslims in every corner of india, as long as the perpetrators are muslim....have you no shame?

Farzana bibi,
All symapathy and legitimacy deserved by Zaheeras of this world is lost as soon as people like you jump in the kitchen to flame further fire and bake your own potatos

I am afraid to read this article.

Currently, I support Zaheera. I believe that her earlier testimony (not the latest one) is the correct one. It seems to be another case where gundaa raj may be getting an upper hand, and justice may be scuttled.

But I fear that after reading Farzana, I will turn into a bitter opponent of Zaheera and everything related to her...


I will skip it :(

#5 #5 by rsaxena
~~ but yet she has no shame in writing articles like this~~



If cold blooded murderers have no shame killing and raping, looting and burning, then why should writers who write about them? Have you no shame writing responses like this?

rgds,
NfP

And why are people shirking away from calling it a Muslim problem?

I am not clear what `Muslim problem` exactly means. Does this mean that only Muslims are qualified to talk about `Muslim problems`? Or that only Hindus can talk about `Hindu problems`? Conversely are u suggesting that every Hindu/Muslim is accountable for the actions of another Hindu/Muslim? What an atrocious idea.

kashmiri pandits deserve to die according to farzana versey, but yet she has no shame in writing articles like this

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A timely and pertinent article.
Kaurasach #1 You are right.Justice system is screwed.This is what led to women taking justice in their hands in Nagpur recently.To me,it was heartwarming in a strange sort of way.It is another matter that things could have been given a religious colour there as well,if there was scope.And it also is pathetic to see apologists jumping up and down with glee at the volte face of Zaheera.

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