Udayakumar January 5, 2005
#95 Posted by nasah on January 17, 2005 10:13:42 pm
Aleph -- it is not that God has no conscience -- he does not -- it is rather we humans who have put an unrealistic, higly inflated -- immensely exaggerated -- premium on our -- worthless worth......
between the humans and the bacteria -- God definitely LOVES the decomposer bacteria MORE -- He has MADE zillion more of them -- than the decomposing humans......
between the humans and the bacteria -- God definitely LOVES the decomposer bacteria MORE -- He has MADE zillion more of them -- than the decomposing humans......
#94 Posted by ijaz_gul on January 14, 2005 11:18:05 am
I am watching Question Time India on BBC, moderated by Sagarika Ghose. There appears a consensus amonst the audience that the Government of India has not done enough in the islands and allowed people to suffer and die, while it remains incapable of accessing some of the islands itself. What is this?
Cheerios
Cheerios
#93 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on January 14, 2005 11:18:05 am
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#92 Posted by sadna on January 14, 2005 9:15:24 am
An ant caught in a monsoon eddy could wonder too, about God. To us, however, the ant`s predicament is not a data point worth bringing God in for. Because we know exactly why the ant is in the predicament it is in - because monsoons are part of the way nature works, and the ant didn`t know how to get out of the way(we humans do, so we don`t generally get swept away in monsoon eddies).
Continental plates shift, Himalayas are born, earthquakes happen, sometimes setting off tsunamis, that is the way Earth is, we just didn`t know how to get out of the way. Animals and Bronze Age tribal communities did.
Continental plates shift, Himalayas are born, earthquakes happen, sometimes setting off tsunamis, that is the way Earth is, we just didn`t know how to get out of the way. Animals and Bronze Age tribal communities did.
#91 Posted by nikki7777 on January 14, 2005 7:49:53 am
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#90 Posted by AlephNull on January 14, 2005 12:58:19 am
nasah #82, #85, kaalchakra #83
Those who believe in a ‘just’ and caring omniscient omnipotent divinity have always been hard-pressed to explain why calamities are visited on innocents. Leibniz came up with a vindication of divine justice that asserts that of all possible worlds consistent with human free will ours is the best. This explanation was satirised by Voltaire in ‘Candide’, where the calamitous events include the great Lisbon earthquake of 1755 and a subsequent series of tsunamis that wiped out a third of that city’s population. So you folks are hardly the first to think along those lines.
Those who believe in a ‘just’ and caring omniscient omnipotent divinity have always been hard-pressed to explain why calamities are visited on innocents. Leibniz came up with a vindication of divine justice that asserts that of all possible worlds consistent with human free will ours is the best. This explanation was satirised by Voltaire in ‘Candide’, where the calamitous events include the great Lisbon earthquake of 1755 and a subsequent series of tsunamis that wiped out a third of that city’s population. So you folks are hardly the first to think along those lines.
#89 Posted by KaalChakra on January 13, 2005 12:50:19 pm
re: M.B.Z.Isphahani # 88
Sure, dear friend.
Sure, dear friend.
#88 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on January 13, 2005 11:55:47 am
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#87 Posted by KaalChakra on January 13, 2005 11:25:36 am
re: 86
That was silly of me. I shouldn`t waste my emotions.
That was silly of me. I shouldn`t waste my emotions.
#86 Posted by nasah on January 13, 2005 7:59:34 am
this tsunami is one more PROOF that GOD as we know -- DOES NOT EXIST.....
#85 Posted by KaalChakra on January 13, 2005 7:59:34 am
re: M.B.Z.Isphahani # 84
We couldn`t care less about your apologies. You are irrelevant, or will become irrelevant.
Entertain yourself:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_13-1-2005_pg3_2
We couldn`t care less about your apologies. You are irrelevant, or will become irrelevant.
Entertain yourself:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_13-1-2005_pg3_2
#84 Posted by KaalChakra on January 12, 2005 11:16:14 pm
re: nasah # 82
``folks the latest tsunami rumor is that God also died in that mother of all catastrophes.....``
If God is just He should have committed suicide.
``folks the latest tsunami rumor is that God also died in that mother of all catastrophes.....``
If God is just He should have committed suicide.
#83 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on January 12, 2005 11:16:14 pm
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#82 Posted by nasah on January 12, 2005 9:12:37 pm
folks the latest tsunami rumor is that God also died in that mother of all catastrophes.....
#81 Posted by nikki7777 on January 12, 2005 9:50:44 am
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#80 Posted by AlephNull on January 12, 2005 12:16:24 am
stuka #76
You’ve asked a question that is (1) unrelated to the topic of this board and (2) probes my personal background. I don’t wish to waste bandwidth – too much of that already on Veeresh’s board – and don’t want to dwell on personal stuff on FP; so I’ll keep it short. In brief – why shouldn’t an Indian from anywhere in the country be interested in Indian security issues? And if so, would you expect him to have friendly feelings towards the Pakistani state? I’ve been as negative towards the (more coldly pragmatic and rational) PRC, towards elements of the US establishment inimical to India (such as hypocrite non-proliferation ayatollahs), and to sermonising meddling Euros. Much of my dislike for the Pakistani state can be explained without reference to my specific personal background. The portion that might have a personal tinge is not based on ancient historical baggage – there is none - but on my total rejection of religiously based identity. My personal ‘cultural shift’ began in the US but was massively accelerated post 1998-99. Hope that’s an adequate explanation; otherwise please follow up on UP.
You’ve asked a question that is (1) unrelated to the topic of this board and (2) probes my personal background. I don’t wish to waste bandwidth – too much of that already on Veeresh’s board – and don’t want to dwell on personal stuff on FP; so I’ll keep it short. In brief – why shouldn’t an Indian from anywhere in the country be interested in Indian security issues? And if so, would you expect him to have friendly feelings towards the Pakistani state? I’ve been as negative towards the (more coldly pragmatic and rational) PRC, towards elements of the US establishment inimical to India (such as hypocrite non-proliferation ayatollahs), and to sermonising meddling Euros. Much of my dislike for the Pakistani state can be explained without reference to my specific personal background. The portion that might have a personal tinge is not based on ancient historical baggage – there is none - but on my total rejection of religiously based identity. My personal ‘cultural shift’ began in the US but was massively accelerated post 1998-99. Hope that’s an adequate explanation; otherwise please follow up on UP.
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