The first time I quit
Zehra Rizvi May 19, 2005
#38 Posted by cayenne on May 24, 2005 5:56:46 pm
I got a wife and two kids.That`s enough reason for me to smoke.In fact, that`s the only thing i look forward to first thing in the morning, my ciggy it is.I need something legally opiative to tolerate the constant nagging and whining that every man has to abide with when he gets married and has children.And, i do mean EVERY man.There are no exceptions.Some men may be delusional and think they have wonderful lives after marriage.I understand.
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#37 Posted by Zehra on May 24, 2005 9:45:55 am
ozer,
umm, why all these conditions all of a sudden?
i thought i was getting a free ticket to london. no questions asked. that is the only way that i work.
can my boyfriend join us on all these fun things u have planned? he`s a writer so he will really enjoy the poetry by the fire.
:)
burpinder: so sweet. i am trying all of those. it helps. i wish that with tasting bad the cigarette wouldnt feel so good. i hate how clam it makes me and I KNOW that it is just mental...psychological. its the dirty nasty nicotine monster. aghhh!
z.rizvi
umm, why all these conditions all of a sudden?
i thought i was getting a free ticket to london. no questions asked. that is the only way that i work.
can my boyfriend join us on all these fun things u have planned? he`s a writer so he will really enjoy the poetry by the fire.
:)
burpinder: so sweet. i am trying all of those. it helps. i wish that with tasting bad the cigarette wouldnt feel so good. i hate how clam it makes me and I KNOW that it is just mental...psychological. its the dirty nasty nicotine monster. aghhh!
z.rizvi
#36 Posted by burpinder on May 22, 2005 11:45:37 pm
I am surprised the author even made it through that first day.
There are some ways to stop smoking- marrying or going out with someone who has lost a close one to cancer tops the list. Your urges cannot compete with that kind of guilt.
Also, if you somehow convince yourself that you don`t actually like to smoke, it helps. Get aggressive with your close friends who smoke, tell them statistics prove that passive smoking kills their wives and children, especially unborn ones. Scold them for smoking too much- yaar earlier you used to smoke control mein, nowadyas toh you are really freaking out STOPPIT.
Cut out all people and situations in your life that make you smoke. Some situations like meeting old friends over drinks, are mandatory smoking situations, you cannot avoid it, on such days tell yourself, I will start only when the urge is unbearable. I will smoke at most one cigarette with one drink. I will take a puff and extinguish the cigarette.
Everyone hates smokers nowadays, same category as (#19) suicide bombers and lepers. Tell yourself you do not want to be labelled a smoker. Clean breath and no morning phlegm are powerful motivators.
If you stop for a few days, it will get easier to stay quit. But if you succumb to the urge and smoke a little, forget about it. It is done. Every cig unsmoked is good.
There are some ways to stop smoking- marrying or going out with someone who has lost a close one to cancer tops the list. Your urges cannot compete with that kind of guilt.
Also, if you somehow convince yourself that you don`t actually like to smoke, it helps. Get aggressive with your close friends who smoke, tell them statistics prove that passive smoking kills their wives and children, especially unborn ones. Scold them for smoking too much- yaar earlier you used to smoke control mein, nowadyas toh you are really freaking out STOPPIT.
Cut out all people and situations in your life that make you smoke. Some situations like meeting old friends over drinks, are mandatory smoking situations, you cannot avoid it, on such days tell yourself, I will start only when the urge is unbearable. I will smoke at most one cigarette with one drink. I will take a puff and extinguish the cigarette.
Everyone hates smokers nowadays, same category as (#19) suicide bombers and lepers. Tell yourself you do not want to be labelled a smoker. Clean breath and no morning phlegm are powerful motivators.
If you stop for a few days, it will get easier to stay quit. But if you succumb to the urge and smoke a little, forget about it. It is done. Every cig unsmoked is good.
#35 Posted by arstoo on May 22, 2005 9:45:45 pm
Ref#31
I agree with you that reading the book is pain in the neck. But I went to Easyway clinic in melbourne. The deal is that they charge $240 for a 4 hr session and guarntee that you will stop smoking.
The clinic was very helpfull. Infact 4 of my friends have also stopped smoking after going to the clinic.
All the best. But don`t cheat your self. If you want go ahead and smoke that way you will escape old age. While healthy people will be lying in hospitals and dying of nothing
I agree with you that reading the book is pain in the neck. But I went to Easyway clinic in melbourne. The deal is that they charge $240 for a 4 hr session and guarntee that you will stop smoking.
The clinic was very helpfull. Infact 4 of my friends have also stopped smoking after going to the clinic.
All the best. But don`t cheat your self. If you want go ahead and smoke that way you will escape old age. While healthy people will be lying in hospitals and dying of nothing
#34 Posted by Ally on May 22, 2005 2:46:28 pm
Ozer,
The Thames doesn`t have a sunset as its always cloudy here!
Galloise are sh*t, Silk Cut are the best, Marlboro Lights are too rough compared to SC. Khair, i too am quiting again, i quite last year for six months done with the help of patches. The only problems i had were the psychological ones (which i have loads of anyways), other than that it was nice to smell fresh and clean all the time, but i got sick of eating green Extra chewing gum all day, and i did start to eat a lot more, friends commented on how `healthy` i looked! It was nice not smoking, after a while you forget you even did, meal times are the worst but even that becomes ok after a bit.
I stupidly started back when i went to work for my old boss, and in that company there is a big smoke break/drink culture, now i`m starting a new job, i want to go in as a `non-smoker` so i don`t get drawn into the smoke break culture!!!
Dekhyeay ki bunda
Anyways good luck to all those who are quitting
KH
The Thames doesn`t have a sunset as its always cloudy here!
Galloise are sh*t, Silk Cut are the best, Marlboro Lights are too rough compared to SC. Khair, i too am quiting again, i quite last year for six months done with the help of patches. The only problems i had were the psychological ones (which i have loads of anyways), other than that it was nice to smell fresh and clean all the time, but i got sick of eating green Extra chewing gum all day, and i did start to eat a lot more, friends commented on how `healthy` i looked! It was nice not smoking, after a while you forget you even did, meal times are the worst but even that becomes ok after a bit.
I stupidly started back when i went to work for my old boss, and in that company there is a big smoke break/drink culture, now i`m starting a new job, i want to go in as a `non-smoker` so i don`t get drawn into the smoke break culture!!!
Dekhyeay ki bunda
Anyways good luck to all those who are quitting
KH
#33 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 22, 2005 1:12:40 pm
Zehra
Forget Boston, a ticket to London can be arranged snappy snaps....but before venturing to do so:
a. will you smoke the cigar I have on offer ?
b. will you sail into the sunset of the river thames with me?
c. will you venture to try the global culinary trials that i shall prepare for you?
d. will we shelter next to a fireplace and read the finest poetry on offer ?
RSVP
Merci beaucoup
Le Gaulois Blonde
Forget Boston, a ticket to London can be arranged snappy snaps....but before venturing to do so:
a. will you smoke the cigar I have on offer ?
b. will you sail into the sunset of the river thames with me?
c. will you venture to try the global culinary trials that i shall prepare for you?
d. will we shelter next to a fireplace and read the finest poetry on offer ?
RSVP
Merci beaucoup
Le Gaulois Blonde
#32 Posted by Adroit on May 22, 2005 5:23:34 am
...Speakest thou with a veil of humility,
Is this thy real face?
Or be it another scurrilous scruple?
...This thwart thing betwixt us twain,
That nothing sedates!
`Haya!` Ever heard of the phrase in urdu and persian?
And for the most intellectual editors of this website! Well ofcourse they are going to let you write anythign you want, this ofcourse is the most egalitarian website for intellectuals, isn`t it?
Is this thy real face?
Or be it another scurrilous scruple?
...This thwart thing betwixt us twain,
That nothing sedates!
`Haya!` Ever heard of the phrase in urdu and persian?
And for the most intellectual editors of this website! Well ofcourse they are going to let you write anythign you want, this ofcourse is the most egalitarian website for intellectuals, isn`t it?
#31 Posted by Zehra on May 22, 2005 4:35:41 am
atif2. u so funny. u actually are. i laugh at ur posts.
i dont like boston. been there once and yeah, not a big fan. not sue what everyone keeps raving about. everyone is white with an occasional speckle of color. give me NYC anyday...everyday. so if u have anything besides boston to offer...
is that all it takes for u to be intersted in a woman. suppose im a big fat ole cow wih warts (oh wait, do have those), and boils (dont have those yet).
arstoo. i am on day 14 of quitting with occcasional cheating thrown in but still day 14. i read allen carrs book and i had to suspend my intelligence to read the book since i did want to stop. it reads like an infomercial but he has his reasons and they are pretty good. did u ever re read the book?
(do cigars count as ciggies? want one when i come home with some whiskey..mm mm).
z.rizvi.
i dont like boston. been there once and yeah, not a big fan. not sue what everyone keeps raving about. everyone is white with an occasional speckle of color. give me NYC anyday...everyday. so if u have anything besides boston to offer...
is that all it takes for u to be intersted in a woman. suppose im a big fat ole cow wih warts (oh wait, do have those), and boils (dont have those yet).
arstoo. i am on day 14 of quitting with occcasional cheating thrown in but still day 14. i read allen carrs book and i had to suspend my intelligence to read the book since i did want to stop. it reads like an infomercial but he has his reasons and they are pretty good. did u ever re read the book?
(do cigars count as ciggies? want one when i come home with some whiskey..mm mm).
z.rizvi.
#30 Posted by arstoo on May 22, 2005 1:52:44 am
Dear Zehra,
Please just stop here. Stopping smoking is not a big deal if you realy wan`t to stop smoking. What you have to ensure is that you find smoking switch in your sub-concious and switch it off. It is that easy. What you are doing in this your allowing your concious brain to rationalise your smoking behaviour and hence the difficulties of giving up.
I am talking from personal experience, I use to smoke 50 cigs a day. Stop on a fine morning 8 years ago after reading a book by Allan Carr called `Easy way to stop somoking`. After taht never looked back.
You don`t need will power. You don`t strong determination. Nothing. That is exaclty what you need if you wan`t to stop smoking. NOTHING. So called withdrawal syndrome it is nothing but the effect of mild flu. You can take a paracetamol if you feel too bad.
I would like all the smokers to stop smoking, if you realy want to. If you enjoy it keep smoking.
Good Luck all
Please just stop here. Stopping smoking is not a big deal if you realy wan`t to stop smoking. What you have to ensure is that you find smoking switch in your sub-concious and switch it off. It is that easy. What you are doing in this your allowing your concious brain to rationalise your smoking behaviour and hence the difficulties of giving up.
I am talking from personal experience, I use to smoke 50 cigs a day. Stop on a fine morning 8 years ago after reading a book by Allan Carr called `Easy way to stop somoking`. After taht never looked back.
You don`t need will power. You don`t strong determination. Nothing. That is exaclty what you need if you wan`t to stop smoking. NOTHING. So called withdrawal syndrome it is nothing but the effect of mild flu. You can take a paracetamol if you feel too bad.
I would like all the smokers to stop smoking, if you realy want to. If you enjoy it keep smoking.
Good Luck all
#29 Posted by atif2 on May 21, 2005 11:39:48 am
Zehra - first of all, a warm and wet hello :) (yeah, its been raining in Boston). Secondly, after reading a few of your articles on chowk in the last few months, here is what I have gathered about you so far:
1. you are an avid smoker. god knows, watching a pretty olive complexioned girl chomping on a fat cohiba is one of the sexiest sight.
2. you once had sex with someone. and so you wrote a poem, longing for the ``back ache`` that sex session gave you. that was heart wrenching and brought tears to my eyes. it was awesome!
3. you laid bare on your kitchen table, while your mom - a doctor, examined you for warts.
4. you asked your dad for birth control pill prescription, since your mom was out of town.
Well, after knowing all this about you, I am sitting here wondering....where have you been all my life?!! Hi, I am Atif :)
BTW - summer in Boston is really pretty - hint hint! ;)
1. you are an avid smoker. god knows, watching a pretty olive complexioned girl chomping on a fat cohiba is one of the sexiest sight.
2. you once had sex with someone. and so you wrote a poem, longing for the ``back ache`` that sex session gave you. that was heart wrenching and brought tears to my eyes. it was awesome!
3. you laid bare on your kitchen table, while your mom - a doctor, examined you for warts.
4. you asked your dad for birth control pill prescription, since your mom was out of town.
Well, after knowing all this about you, I am sitting here wondering....where have you been all my life?!! Hi, I am Atif :)
BTW - summer in Boston is really pretty - hint hint! ;)
#28 Posted by Zehra on May 21, 2005 10:42:17 am
dear adroit,
what is so offensive about the first line? (line ends with a `.` so are u sure u did not read more than just the first line?)...
i am actually a humanitarian aid worker. i rarely, if ever call myself a writer. i know too many writers to really do that in good conscience.
i love constructive criticism and yours is not. to make it so you would have to give me reasons as to why you didnt like a certain aspect of my writing rather than just calling it ********. i actually have no problems with the way u trash my writing either since u are entitled to ur opinion. luckily the chowk editors feel differently. it is always the case.
were u SO offended that u felt u had to let me know and interact? i mean, that is quite a powerful reaction then that i illicited from u. how nice.
ozer, a ticket would be nice.
z.rizvi.
what is so offensive about the first line? (line ends with a `.` so are u sure u did not read more than just the first line?)...
i am actually a humanitarian aid worker. i rarely, if ever call myself a writer. i know too many writers to really do that in good conscience.
i love constructive criticism and yours is not. to make it so you would have to give me reasons as to why you didnt like a certain aspect of my writing rather than just calling it ********. i actually have no problems with the way u trash my writing either since u are entitled to ur opinion. luckily the chowk editors feel differently. it is always the case.
were u SO offended that u felt u had to let me know and interact? i mean, that is quite a powerful reaction then that i illicited from u. how nice.
ozer, a ticket would be nice.
z.rizvi.
#27 Posted by Adroit on May 21, 2005 10:20:35 am
I stopped reading all this hogwash after the first line!
Woman! could you be more pathetic? I mean what r you trying to prove with all this **** that comes out of you? Do you really think its useful?
And the `intellectuals` of this website- all boasting the medals they have achieved so far or disturbed freaks- read all of this? Well if they do then i pitty them.
But ofcourse you wouldn`t mind a critique of this sort now, would you? Since you are a `free` and an established writer-how lovely when ppl call u a writer or with other brilliant names ;P
Goodluck with the anonymous ride of peasants!
Regards,
not-quite-Adroit!
Woman! could you be more pathetic? I mean what r you trying to prove with all this **** that comes out of you? Do you really think its useful?
And the `intellectuals` of this website- all boasting the medals they have achieved so far or disturbed freaks- read all of this? Well if they do then i pitty them.
But ofcourse you wouldn`t mind a critique of this sort now, would you? Since you are a `free` and an established writer-how lovely when ppl call u a writer or with other brilliant names ;P
Goodluck with the anonymous ride of peasants!
Regards,
not-quite-Adroit!
#26 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 21, 2005 4:54:40 am
Re: # 25
Nicotine-addled friends opine that Allen Carr`s “The easy way to stop smoking” is something of a magnum opus. After several cracks at quitting, Mr Carr`s willpower steers his 4 by 4 wheels toward hypnosis. Et voila he hits the jackpot ! Not a ciggie jab in his mouth ever since. Must have surely been an easy-on-the eye hypnotherapist ! Pitty his opus does not expound much on the hypnotherapy technique.
Telling a compulsive 14th day smoker that it`s easy to stop is voluntary suicide. Especially when there lurks a bias in you to trans-atlantically invite them for ``les Galuoise Blondes``.
Back to the topic, Carr is not preaching, he is empowering. The pivotal mission of the book is to help deal with the psychology of smoking. He compares commencing on tobacco with putting on a pair of shoes that are too tight just to feel the pleasure of taking them off again.
This forms the mainstay of his `Easyway` method - in other words, smoking is a David Blaine like illusion and when the illusion dissipates into thin air stopping smoking becomes “easy”.
So Zehra:
What will it take apart from ``Gauloises Blondes`` to fly you over to Her Majesty`s beloved 007 territory ?
Nicotine-addled friends opine that Allen Carr`s “The easy way to stop smoking” is something of a magnum opus. After several cracks at quitting, Mr Carr`s willpower steers his 4 by 4 wheels toward hypnosis. Et voila he hits the jackpot ! Not a ciggie jab in his mouth ever since. Must have surely been an easy-on-the eye hypnotherapist ! Pitty his opus does not expound much on the hypnotherapy technique.
Telling a compulsive 14th day smoker that it`s easy to stop is voluntary suicide. Especially when there lurks a bias in you to trans-atlantically invite them for ``les Galuoise Blondes``.
Back to the topic, Carr is not preaching, he is empowering. The pivotal mission of the book is to help deal with the psychology of smoking. He compares commencing on tobacco with putting on a pair of shoes that are too tight just to feel the pleasure of taking them off again.
This forms the mainstay of his `Easyway` method - in other words, smoking is a David Blaine like illusion and when the illusion dissipates into thin air stopping smoking becomes “easy”.
So Zehra:
What will it take apart from ``Gauloises Blondes`` to fly you over to Her Majesty`s beloved 007 territory ?
#25 Posted by Zehra on May 21, 2005 2:01:58 am
hahaha, this is all too funny.
to answer the question did i quit. the first time i tried to quit, these first 12 hours ive written about, was like, 2 years back.
i am on day 13 of quitting. it is a process since i have been cheating but i feel like this is as good as it gets for now and i need to stop feeding the nicotine monster. it is a basic drug addiction and i dont feel like being a druggie.
ozer...dont even start. i am so badly wanting to come to london. u have no idea.
anyone got tips to stop smoking? anyone heard of allen carr and his book, the easy way to stop smoking?
z.rizvi
to answer the question did i quit. the first time i tried to quit, these first 12 hours ive written about, was like, 2 years back.
i am on day 13 of quitting. it is a process since i have been cheating but i feel like this is as good as it gets for now and i need to stop feeding the nicotine monster. it is a basic drug addiction and i dont feel like being a druggie.
ozer...dont even start. i am so badly wanting to come to london. u have no idea.
anyone got tips to stop smoking? anyone heard of allen carr and his book, the easy way to stop smoking?
z.rizvi
#24 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 20, 2005 7:08:12 pm
Zehra
Nothing inspires me more than a soul-searching lady batter-dipped in smoke inclined towards pseudo “multi-culti” conversation. Though I relinquished the tension-easing libido-inducing convention of burning a pack of my lungs a day, I now ebb towards the occasional cigar. Manufacturing my 2am delight.
We are talking Castro’s finest: Cohiba`s Havana’s and Davidoff’s ranked on the top echelons. I somehow remain morbidly drawn to mocha-coloured Mademoiselles who pledge allegiance to ciggies and poetry.
The fires from their lighters clench me into ecstatic imagery. Even though I do acquiesce that immoderate nicotine incline provokes a restrictive hall-way culminating in the left ventricle.
Here in London nicotine is still a law of introductory presage between the genders. A proverbial breaking of the ice between initiated guyz and galz. Ciggies reign supreme in my presided haunts: namely London`s plushest nightclubs, bars and restaurants.
Zehra:
The Galuoise Blondes await you in the buzzing city of London. Are you daring enough to travel Trans-Atlantic to taste them?
Nothing inspires me more than a soul-searching lady batter-dipped in smoke inclined towards pseudo “multi-culti” conversation. Though I relinquished the tension-easing libido-inducing convention of burning a pack of my lungs a day, I now ebb towards the occasional cigar. Manufacturing my 2am delight.
We are talking Castro’s finest: Cohiba`s Havana’s and Davidoff’s ranked on the top echelons. I somehow remain morbidly drawn to mocha-coloured Mademoiselles who pledge allegiance to ciggies and poetry.
The fires from their lighters clench me into ecstatic imagery. Even though I do acquiesce that immoderate nicotine incline provokes a restrictive hall-way culminating in the left ventricle.
Here in London nicotine is still a law of introductory presage between the genders. A proverbial breaking of the ice between initiated guyz and galz. Ciggies reign supreme in my presided haunts: namely London`s plushest nightclubs, bars and restaurants.
Zehra:
The Galuoise Blondes await you in the buzzing city of London. Are you daring enough to travel Trans-Atlantic to taste them?
#23 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 20, 2005 6:41:59 pm
Miriam K
Your curiosity scratchingly inquires ``which Stalinesque brute decided to ban cigarettes in NYC restaurants and bars?``
The Big Apple sheds tears over promiscuously vanishing ashtrays into the palms of nicotine-phobes, who sit on their high-stallions heretically demonizing one of the few pleasures of life: ciggies.
As for the culpabale Stalinesque: Donate your ashes, venom and ciggie butts to none other than Mayor Bloomberg.
Your curiosity scratchingly inquires ``which Stalinesque brute decided to ban cigarettes in NYC restaurants and bars?``
The Big Apple sheds tears over promiscuously vanishing ashtrays into the palms of nicotine-phobes, who sit on their high-stallions heretically demonizing one of the few pleasures of life: ciggies.
As for the culpabale Stalinesque: Donate your ashes, venom and ciggie butts to none other than Mayor Bloomberg.
#22 Posted by temporal on May 20, 2005 5:00:39 pm
hamidm:
pull out your dog-eared copy of the book
tell me if it mentions cigars...(ok i`ll settle for bidis too)
while at it...also tell me if it mentions cell-phones...(ok i will settle for rotary dialled phones too)...aeroplanes (not ababils)...parka...snow...am on a learning quest tonight
pull out your dog-eared copy of the book
tell me if it mentions cigars...(ok i`ll settle for bidis too)
while at it...also tell me if it mentions cell-phones...(ok i will settle for rotary dialled phones too)...aeroplanes (not ababils)...parka...snow...am on a learning quest tonight
#21 Posted by miriamk on May 20, 2005 3:39:16 pm
Zehrajee, ever wonder which Stalinesque brute decided to ban cigarettes in NYC restaurants and bars? I mean what was he/she/they thinking!! Still, that provided an impetus for me. After innumerable episodes of fist-biting, random outbursts at innocent passersby and ahem…several packs of nicorette, success ensued.
But once in awhile that cloying smell and wispy haze…..sigh :).
But once in awhile that cloying smell and wispy haze…..sigh :).
#20 Posted by Raw_Dust on May 20, 2005 2:57:58 pm
hamidm:
`xactly! i smoke when i drink and if a friend offer one... and i dont inhale it as ``that would give me cancer`` ..
man woody allen nailed the formula just right... i have been at it for like a cupl years and never ever felt the urge to smoke on my own...so i guess i am a smoker out to seek communal-experience...
`xactly! i smoke when i drink and if a friend offer one... and i dont inhale it as ``that would give me cancer`` ..
man woody allen nailed the formula just right... i have been at it for like a cupl years and never ever felt the urge to smoke on my own...so i guess i am a smoker out to seek communal-experience...
#19 Posted by hamidm2 on May 20, 2005 2:44:17 pm
casual, perpetual and closet smokers ......
......... it is a terrible habit and everyone should give it up - that goes for casual and perpetual smokers ........
............ but lately, since smokers have been put in the same category as lepers and suicide bombers, i have noticed that there are a lot of closet smokers and then there are smokers who are in denial ............ ``oh, i only smoke when i have a drink, or ``i only smoke after sex``, or `` i don`t inhale ``, or, my neighbour who has been smokinga cigar in his garage for the last three years, `` as soon as i run out of this box, i am quitting ``.........
.........i would really like to hear ntsyed`s excuse for smoking ! ............ if smoking was haram would he still smoke ?
#18 Posted by scout on May 20, 2005 2:25:47 pm
zehra,
haven`t you seen those signs around saying `kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray`
ab tum bari ho gai ho, it`s time to fight back the urge
haven`t you seen those signs around saying `kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray`
ab tum bari ho gai ho, it`s time to fight back the urge
#17 Posted by ntsyed on May 20, 2005 10:50:45 am
Re: # 5
sattar,
Touche on all counts! I couldn`t have said all that better than you did. I`m going out for one myself without the martini. Like you said, a bad thing should be acknowledged as one, but shouldn`t overblown beyond proportion as the Americans have while destroying the enviroments and causing far deadlier pollution than a tota smoke.
When I got married, one of my friends gave me a very witty excuse to silence my wife on the topic...``this is the only thing in life always ready to come to my lips any time I want...it`s burns away it entire life for me....you know the rest of the BS`` lol
Now that all my children learn about hazards of smoking, they`ve joined the rest of family members in getting on my case about quitting it. Honestly, I quit it every few months but the damn thing ``pulls me back``.
Perhaps I should start using the brit slang for it. ``Begum, I`m going out for a fa g.`` or ``I need a fa g``. Hopefully, she`ll lose her top and force me to quit and that may do the trick for me. But for Zehra, I dunno...fags and girls kinda get along pretty well. ;-)~~
sattar,
Touche on all counts! I couldn`t have said all that better than you did. I`m going out for one myself without the martini. Like you said, a bad thing should be acknowledged as one, but shouldn`t overblown beyond proportion as the Americans have while destroying the enviroments and causing far deadlier pollution than a tota smoke.
When I got married, one of my friends gave me a very witty excuse to silence my wife on the topic...``this is the only thing in life always ready to come to my lips any time I want...it`s burns away it entire life for me....you know the rest of the BS`` lol
Now that all my children learn about hazards of smoking, they`ve joined the rest of family members in getting on my case about quitting it. Honestly, I quit it every few months but the damn thing ``pulls me back``.
Perhaps I should start using the brit slang for it. ``Begum, I`m going out for a fa g.`` or ``I need a fa g``. Hopefully, she`ll lose her top and force me to quit and that may do the trick for me. But for Zehra, I dunno...fags and girls kinda get along pretty well. ;-)~~
#16 Posted by temporal on May 20, 2005 10:29:15 am
pontifications on casual and perpetual
sattar:
..yes...with the ducks;)
there are two kinds of whiners...casual whiners and perpetual whiners...just like there are two kinds of quitters...casual quitters and perpetual quitters…hey i like this…casual muslims and perpetual muslims…casual hindus and perpetual hindus…casual agnostics and perpetual agnostics….casual mullahs and perpetual mullahs…well, ok…more on this for another time…another i-log…back to zehra…no, no…not turning my back to zehra…but back as in back?..theek hay?....palat, tera dhiyaan kidahr hay?...she is a casual quitter!
zehra like most smokers quits every night just before wandering off to sleep...
(now i might be venturing off to deeper waters…better attach a caveat for the humour impaired)
caveat:
the general nature of above observation should in no way be construed or misconstrued for what it may or may not imply...i`m as some can vouch for physically (if not always mentally) in TO...she is in there somewhere....i`m a man...again as my doctor and M can vouch...she is...duck, where am i going with this...and why?...
rgds
t
sattar:
..yes...with the ducks;)
there are two kinds of whiners...casual whiners and perpetual whiners...just like there are two kinds of quitters...casual quitters and perpetual quitters…hey i like this…casual muslims and perpetual muslims…casual hindus and perpetual hindus…casual agnostics and perpetual agnostics….casual mullahs and perpetual mullahs…well, ok…more on this for another time…another i-log…back to zehra…no, no…not turning my back to zehra…but back as in back?..theek hay?....palat, tera dhiyaan kidahr hay?...she is a casual quitter!
zehra like most smokers quits every night just before wandering off to sleep...
(now i might be venturing off to deeper waters…better attach a caveat for the humour impaired)
caveat:
the general nature of above observation should in no way be construed or misconstrued for what it may or may not imply...i`m as some can vouch for physically (if not always mentally) in TO...she is in there somewhere....i`m a man...again as my doctor and M can vouch...she is...duck, where am i going with this...and why?...
rgds
t
#15 Posted by amrita on May 20, 2005 10:21:33 am
zehra, t and sattar - :)).
hey, i`m with you on the eating healthy and drinking part - one life to live, right? But watching your own dad whom you love one hell of a lot almost die kind of gets the point across to you in big huge caps - so no smokie-smokie for this little girl or her big brother, thanks. I guess the big thing about cigs and me is that I`m a big passive smoker [all my friends are smokers bar two] and I hate it as much as I find it comforting in a strange way [the smell brings back memories of my childhood mornings]. Thing is - you can drink in moderation and eat fatty foods in moderation and be a self contained disaster area but no matter how much you smoke in moderation, you`re still going to affect other people every time you light up and in the long run too.
hey, i`m with you on the eating healthy and drinking part - one life to live, right? But watching your own dad whom you love one hell of a lot almost die kind of gets the point across to you in big huge caps - so no smokie-smokie for this little girl or her big brother, thanks. I guess the big thing about cigs and me is that I`m a big passive smoker [all my friends are smokers bar two] and I hate it as much as I find it comforting in a strange way [the smell brings back memories of my childhood mornings]. Thing is - you can drink in moderation and eat fatty foods in moderation and be a self contained disaster area but no matter how much you smoke in moderation, you`re still going to affect other people every time you light up and in the long run too.
#14 Posted by hamidm2 on May 20, 2005 10:16:13 am
.... other people`s cigarettes ...........
........ i haven`t bought a pack of cigarettes in twenty five years but still manage to smoke one or two a week - it is amazing how many nice people you meet in bars who are more than happy to share with you !.......... sometimes, after the third manhattan, i will break down and offer to exchange a seven dollar drink for a lousy twenty five cent cigarette .......... then there is always the bar tender who keeps a pack for his ``friends`` ! ...........
............it is rather pitiful and i always feel bad about it the next day, but what are the alternatives ?.........i could give up drinking and join the tafseer circuit and go for tahajjud to the mosque every friday and then sleep in all day saturday to recover from the religious hangover ..... no fckuin way - i might as well shoot myself in the head !
..........but nothing beats an occassional cohiba and if all the bars started selling cigars i`d give up smoking completely !
........ i haven`t bought a pack of cigarettes in twenty five years but still manage to smoke one or two a week - it is amazing how many nice people you meet in bars who are more than happy to share with you !.......... sometimes, after the third manhattan, i will break down and offer to exchange a seven dollar drink for a lousy twenty five cent cigarette .......... then there is always the bar tender who keeps a pack for his ``friends`` ! ...........
............it is rather pitiful and i always feel bad about it the next day, but what are the alternatives ?.........i could give up drinking and join the tafseer circuit and go for tahajjud to the mosque every friday and then sleep in all day saturday to recover from the religious hangover ..... no fckuin way - i might as well shoot myself in the head !
..........but nothing beats an occassional cohiba and if all the bars started selling cigars i`d give up smoking completely !
#13 Posted by sattar2 on May 20, 2005 10:07:42 am
Mahesh … no, I don’t want alcohol banned … only want this anti-smoking thing to be put in perspective …
Smoking cigarettes has no benefits, agreed … but neither does eating chocolate. However, smoking is so damn cool and relaxing … esp. in a quiet, dark room after sex … how can we ever ban it? gawd … that would be the lowest point for a civilization … simply atrocious …
Amrita … now it is stories like these that we don’t want to hear. My own take is that eating healthy, not smoking, not drinking does not make you live longer … it only seems that way (on a more serious note, your point is noted, albeit grudgingly – hmph).
Zehra, so did you quit or what? I couldn’t tell from your posts …
temporal seems to have the right idea ... duck man duck ...
#12 Posted by temporal on May 20, 2005 9:45:14 am
i plead the fifth
...zehra, cigarettes, amrita...the list is long and not in alphabetical order
;)
maut ka ik din moa`yyion hay...
...zehra, cigarettes, amrita...the list is long and not in alphabetical order
;)
maut ka ik din moa`yyion hay...
#11 Posted by Zehra on May 20, 2005 9:25:05 am
amrita,
damn. noted. with a big star next to it.
no one can argue taht smoking isnt bad for u. people do argue about HOW bad it is for u. everyone has the story of the uncle who smoked 2 packs and a day and lived to be 80 but then again, we have stories like ur dad.
stinky breath. i quit.
z.` if only it were that easy` rizvi.
damn. noted. with a big star next to it.
no one can argue taht smoking isnt bad for u. people do argue about HOW bad it is for u. everyone has the story of the uncle who smoked 2 packs and a day and lived to be 80 but then again, we have stories like ur dad.
stinky breath. i quit.
z.` if only it were that easy` rizvi.
#10 Posted by amrita on May 20, 2005 7:04:41 am
sattar - my dad began smoking when he went away to college [he was sixteen] and smoked, just like you, 2-3 ciggies a day for the next 40 years or so and didnt see what harm could come of it other than the trip to the dentist every so often. He was in excellent physical condition and there was nothing wrong with him... until the day he was admitted to the hospital with a blood clot in his brain. His ``occasional`` smoking had pretty near cost him his life and even if he was willing to handle the risk, the rest of us werent - so he quit cold turkey and its been eleven years now. Not one lil ciggie off the bandwagon.
Zehra, pls note :)
Zehra, pls note :)
#9 Posted by Zehra on May 20, 2005 6:40:56 am
yay, chowk put this up.
raw dust...it was an encounter...that of a paranoid persons really. i started smoking the next day as a matter of fact.
hush u are always too sweet yaar.
i love smoking. i dont know what else to say...i know its bad for me...it is, but i really rally like it alot.
it tastes awful, i know. but i love it.
im acttually on day 12 of quitting so its very apropos that chowk put this up when they have....I`ll be sending in another piece...called, when i really did quit smoking..the 14th time.
its really sad that i am such a nicotine druggie, but i am. i think i am through the worst of it though for now.
thanks all for reading. share your smoking stories...would love to hear them.
z.rizvi.
raw dust...it was an encounter...that of a paranoid persons really. i started smoking the next day as a matter of fact.
hush u are always too sweet yaar.
i love smoking. i dont know what else to say...i know its bad for me...it is, but i really rally like it alot.
it tastes awful, i know. but i love it.
im acttually on day 12 of quitting so its very apropos that chowk put this up when they have....I`ll be sending in another piece...called, when i really did quit smoking..the 14th time.
its really sad that i am such a nicotine druggie, but i am. i think i am through the worst of it though for now.
thanks all for reading. share your smoking stories...would love to hear them.
z.rizvi.
#8 Posted by InstantKarma on May 20, 2005 6:29:35 am
Women should not smoke. It is against our culture.
#7 Posted by MaheshG2 on May 19, 2005 6:17:15 pm
Sattar, you have a point.
Smoking and drinking should both be banned.
Although drinking in moderation has some health benefits whereas smoking has none.
#6 Posted by sattar2 on May 19, 2005 4:51:48 pm
... one more thought ...
zehra ji, once you`ve quit, quit a few more times ... then you`ll become really good at it ...
#5 Posted by sattar2 on May 19, 2005 4:10:31 pm
Fcuk … I think smokers get a bad rap for nothing … its all hogwash … nonsense …
Once I was getting a medical checkup as I started my first job out of college. The questionnaire asked if I am a smoker. I smoke 2-3 cigarettes a day, and was not clear if that makes me a smoker. I asked the grossly obese nurse standing by, and according to her I am a smoker. I shook my head in disbelief and asked her … “if I have a beer with lunch, and a glass of wine with dinner, does that make me an alcoholic?” She grinned sheepishly, acknowledged my point, but admitted that there’s not much she could do about it. I cursed softly, and checked the “Y” box.
Look at issues with alcohol on the other hand … there are studies after studies underscoring enormous social costs of drinking. A high percentage of robberies, muggings, cases of domestic abuse and violence, incest, child molestation have alcohol as one of the leading common factors. Sexual intercourses that result in transfer of STDs … a significant number of these take place when one or the other person is drunk. Go take your driving license test … and there will inevitably be questions about driving while drunk, blood-alcohol content limits, and that silly gray and black chart that for the life of me I`ve failed to memorize. So what is it ... 0.8% or 0.08% ... I can never remember ... and even if I did, what`s the point?? It`s not like I can stick a finger in one of my orifice and know my blood-alcohol content on a percentage basis ...
Auto accidents? In each and every one of them, the first issue that comes to mind is … was the driver drunk? Hell yeah … more often than not he is. Have you ever heard of anyone getting into a fatal car crash because he had had too many cigarettes? There are groups like MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) … but without a “cigarette smoking” counterpart. And don’t even get me started on binge drinking on campuses …
So what`s the problem? Yes, you guessed right ... smoking is the problem ... the mother of all evil. But alcohol remains kosher. Why? ... probably because Jesus turned water into wine …hell … if it was good enough for son of god, it must be good for the rest of us. Come to think of it, this makes a cool slogan for anheuser-busch … so to hell with political correctness and to hell with cheap american beer …
hell ... I think I need a cigarette and a glass of martini …
#4 Posted by notme on May 19, 2005 11:57:37 am
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im generally the first one to concurr that chowk editors are most certainly on a high on a combination of cheaper designer drugs, but i rather liked this one...
im generally the first one to concurr that chowk editors are most certainly on a high on a combination of cheaper designer drugs, but i rather liked this one...
#3 Posted by Soulat on May 19, 2005 11:52:00 am
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#2 Posted by hush on May 19, 2005 11:19:49 am
I still ask , ``how drunk the editors are that they publish all ur crap??``
#2 Posted by Raw_Dust on May 19, 2005 11:19:45 am
good writing, zehra. though i thought it is gonna go on for a little more but then what happened?
#1 Posted by tahmed32 on May 19, 2005 11:12:59 am
$8 a pack!!! And people still smoke!! used to be a dollar a pack, as i remember from college days.
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