No Retreat

carving out not one but two nations specifically to safeguard the supremacist rights of the bigoted mutant muslim freakazoids did not make them disappear from india, so why would it work in the other case?

#35 by rozaiba

``stuff like caricature grand-prix rallies, marathons, and mini-marathons may not really be ‘development’ material directly, but it does help in image building.``

You are missing the point, rozaiba. Foreigners only visit Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad. The govt can organize ``mixed marathons`` in the posh localities of these cities, where majority of the residents are not going to object.

But what`s the point in holding these ``mixed marathons`` in Gujranwala, Sargodha and D.G. Khan when you already know that people in these cities are conservative??. It seems the Punjab govt embarked on a `cultural crusade` against the conservative residents of Gujranwala by holding the mixed marathon in that city.

Foreign investors are more respectful of our country`s religious and cultural sensitivies than our Pakistani ``liberal tsars``.

#51 heh heh.. my tribe females will kick my behind red and send me begging to your kabila if i talk of sharing anything.. in my tribe one begs unconditionally.

[...If you can`t deliver us security, YOU will just have to carve out another nation which will safeguard the supremacist rights of the bigoted mutant Hindu freakazoids...]

what you are saying is - if you can`t deliver us security, and don`t carve out another nation to safeguard your supremacist rights, WE will simply burn YOU alive alongwith YOUR women and children in a train.

besides, what recommendations do you have for the bigoted mutant muslim freakazoids? or these species don`t exist in india?

Great article.

Re: # 53

Romair, also Koudi… in my village near Sargodha and Mianwali, men play Koudi (Kabadee) and wear langoti (a little clothing that covers their butt crack and front - a thong like cover), but sometimes you can see their Tatay peeking through. Often times, females come to watch the match.

vivek #34: ``While I appreciate the performance of Pakistani women in squash, I would like to point out that squash and tennis are not comparable. Tennis enjoys far greater popularity and hence is more competitive.``

Tennis is definitely more competitive. However, there is still a big difference between being 73rd in the world and 22nd, regardless of the sport. A different league, all together.

I am not sure whether the hoopla, in India, over Sania Mirza has too much to do with her sports skills. There are other Indian women who have achieved much more, but never got half the press. One of the weightlifters won an Olympic medal. One of the Indian female relay teams in Athletics (a sport more popular than Tennis) is ranked in the top ten or so, in the world..............I am quite sure there must be a lot of Indian women who are ranked in the top 70s in quite a few sports. How many people know of them?

Usually, athletes get attention, much higher than their sporting skills, if they have something unique about them. Anna Kournikova never wins anything, but is famous because of her looks. Perhaps the unique thing about Sania Mirza is her religion and the fact that she is a female........

Urstruly #46: ``ooookay, so it means that, in fact, they DO want to see mine but wouldn`t show theirs``

How have you come to the conclusion that, ``they DO want to see mine?``

I am not sure if someone is forcing, ``your`` women to show themselves, or is specifically designing a system that would expose your women to them. So I don`t think, ``they`` specifically want to see yours...........

Just out of curiousity, do you play (or played) sports? Have you ever worn shorts? Strictly speaking, wearing shorts, in Islam, is forbidden, both for men and women. However, I have always found it odd that men can wear shorts in Pakistan to play sports, openly, but women cannot. Or in Iran for that matter. Or even in Saudi Arabia, which has a pretty good soccer team. Irani men wear tight mini-shorts and wrestle on TV. Pakistani boxers wear only shorts, and win Asian medals..........Do you think that should be banned...........

If you, yourself, have never worn shorts, outside your house, one can place your argument, somewhere. However, if you have, and do, wear shorts, then isn`t your argument in the same categary as someone benfiting from something, themselves, while simultaneously critiquing it............

Re: # 50

jang

why do you ask? does your tribe has a shared pool of ``females``?

“Let the women in Pakistan make the rules and laws related to women in Pakistan, both from the religious and secular side. Let them decide what is a proper dress and let them decide what women should do and not do.”

Concept of separate electorates seems to be very organic.
Urstruly, are you sardar of a kabila, who will trade his ``females`` with other saradars such as Musharaff on a reciprocal basis?

So the conclusion is this: Pakis want to put lipstick on the pig(improve their image) and yet deny that there is a pig...

This sounds like the paki version of the matrix....there is no spoon becomes there is no extremism....

Re: # 46

Urstruly... What is this thing about Mine and Their? If that’s what your biggest concern is, YOUR should stay home. I didn’t know women were being forced to run. You learn something new every day.

If YOUR women are anything like your views. They should stay in.

re : Romair # 11
“Let the women in Pakistan make the rules and laws related to women in Pakistan, both from the religious and secular side. Let them decide what is a proper dress and let them decide what women should do and not do.”

I have a better idea ….Let the women make laws for men,

That would be fun…

Regards,

Faruk

Re: # 45

ooookay, so it means that, in fact, they DO want to see mine but wouldn`t show theirs. Why, is there a problem? Don`t their women need exercise? What about freedom and that ``breathing free`` thing?

Re: # 44

While their females (as if that’s the only way to identity women…. “their”) run, you might not get a chance to see them as you will be busy beating the hell out of your women (“your”) and keeping them on a leash. Beside, they will run past you so fast that you wont even get a good look at their boobs. You are better off checking what is available to you at home.

OK enough discussion. Now could someone please tell me when can I see Musharaf`s, Shaukat`s, and shujat`s et al women in knickers running around in the city.