Fauzia’s Rejection

Naqshbandijee:

With all due politeness, are you being facetious? You’ll have to excuse me since I’m a little out of sorts today and perhaps levity-impaired. Come now, I rather like the “mad-mullahs” of Chowk or of any other place. I mean whom would I rail against If they weren’t around. Could get rather dull :).

Terranovajee:

I don’t quibble about the writer’s explicit language. But perhaps we can give her the benefit of the doubt. She wanted to drive a point home and I’m not sure sending Fauzia off into the sunset with an advanced degree and career would’ve done it.

Surely, you’ll agree that women are a disenfranchised (as Temporal pointed out #147)
minority, especially so in the South-Asian culture and that this issue needs to be addressed with some urgency. Bismal managed to stir up a debate/dialogue and from where I’m sitting that can’t be all bad.

Re: # 158

Naqshbandi:

So the aulia are allowed to follow the sunnah of covering themselves against the scorching heat. What about the poor guy the aulia are examining? Shouldn`t the aulia try to provide him with some proper clothing first and then think about their own needs?

By the way, what was the sense of posting the heavenly picture on this board? A Bimsal`s write-up had no need for these auliae` karaam. It seems that you are out of your mind to post such pictures on a board where the heroine of this story is exploring her sexuality and then deciding which route to opt. Is it even polite to post the pictures of bushy na-mehram aulia on this board? What was your intent? Did you want A Bismal to route Fauzia to these Buzurganae Deen? Or did you want the rejected men to consult the Buzurganae Deen for guidance?

Who is being foolish here?

RE: Rahul and Saminasha,

Thankyou for your appreciation.

miriamk--when has anyone denied that women too are sexual beings with legitimate needs? certainly not the `mad mullah`s whom so many on chowk despise...!!

zahraj--two of the men in that photo are awliya: saints of Allah. The old man lives in conditions of extreme poverty in the deserts of mauritania. the other one is from hadramawt in yemen--hardly a rich place in the material sense. such clothing is a) sunnah (b) protects against the fierce sun. sp lease don`t judge a book by its cover. you can look foolish sometimes!!

sorry to hear you are ill...

abysmal:
hey, what you are doing is a heck of a lot better than say any other metaphor-heavy piece of nothing. it aint about Lit. over here (got you). more power to you. !

cheers!

These are two more of my amateur attempts at story writing based on a conglomeration of true life characters.


http://www.chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00001391&channel=chaathouse

http://www.chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00001077&channel=gulberg

Ntsyed,

Again, the point of this piece is agency. You could really start bragging when Muslim and formerly Muslim women make their choices without fear of reprisal, harrassment, imprisonment, torture and abuse from fundamentalist institutions and individuals. Otherwise, its all yang.

Temporal
#147

Do you need to seek forgiveness? Of course not :) (long day, hideous commute, late night, etc.).

Microfinance has been doing some substantive things as far as tackling disenfranchisement on a local level in many of these countries with some success. Although, there are some problems (i.e. high interest rates, draconian lending restrictions, etc.). Most of Grameen Bank’s borrowers are women because they default less. Giving women some of their own money and starting them off on an enterprise (albeit very small) begins to change that power structure that sajal referred to. A small step in an otherwise monstrous undertaking but then Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Well, I’ve got to go see a man about a horse or is it the other way around? :).

malik99 and Nadia_Zehra have said it the best: there is a problem, but the only solution is education, not promiscuity and adultery.

So, I ask the ``progressives`` here - men and women - how much time, money, and effort have you or are you willing to put into educating the perpetually imperiled women? As far as the past is concerned...there`s no evidence any one of the progressives in the Pak history has done anything substantial in this respect.

Now, most of them sit comfortably in the Western hemisphere and continue to shout at mulla for teaching Quran and Sunnah to these unfortunate women with available limited resources. Mulla Edhi`s of Pakistan have been the ones who continue to unconditionally shelter, educate and care for these women, while NOW is NEVER around in these efforts.

Anyhow, I don`t see the self-proclaimed ``temporal progressive Pakistanis Muslims`` to put their money where their mouths in the near future. Their forte remains ceaseless yapping.

Meanwhile, scores of women continue to break the cycle of oppression through education, particularly Islamic education which teaches them their God-given rights, and become proud and productive members of the society without compromising any Islamic values. The relatively fortunate ones go on to succeed in sciences too.

However, these numbers will never see the newspaper ink or become the electronic bytes as long as the Human Rights Pak, NOW and other such orgs can help it. Otherise, it will furthe prove the the latter`s connivance to corrupt and destroy our society with their failed models; it will expose their failure in changing the trends for better; and it prove the practical nature of Islam...just like we seldom, if ever, hear about the US prison system where the most successful rehabilitation program is Islamization :-)~~

Re: # 141

Dost-Mittar:

Thank you for highlighting the key components of this write-up.

Regards,

Re: # 21

hamidm, thank you for posting my pic...i`ve been looking for it everywhere while you`ve been holding it all along...shame on you for that one.

But you may have caused the non-mehram ladies (for me) to commit a visual sin with my beautiful sh`er al-leyha; the impressive left profile, etc.

Lastly, kindly do not impose the farangi title on me. I still have 3 slots open (lobbied by the children, #1 is almost ready to welcome 2, 3, & 4), and the ninja ladies may not appreciate the Mr. with my name.

apnay chances to kho chukay aap Amerika mein baith k; meray chances kis chakkar mein dubana chahtay ho bhai? :-)~~

(repeat of #148 -- can`t explain cyber glitches in there)

sajal:

re: patriarchy in pakistan….thanks…for explaining how the power is derived...:)

both of us are perhaps talking a bit cross-purpose here … the rest i’ve mentioned in my post to miriam #146:

…it is good to keep the perspective in mind and the resolve as well…but to overthrow the injustices of history…a concerted first step needs to be taken mixed with steely resolve

lve

t

Re: # 145

miriamk: i think the writer equated freedom with sex, much more so than the posters

Sajal:

re: patriarchy in pakistan¡K.thanks¡Kfor explaining how the power is derived¡Kƒº

both of us are perhaps talking a bit cross-purpose here ¡K the rest i¡¦ve mentioned in my post to miriam #147:

¡Kit is good to keep the perspective in mind and the resolve as well¡Kbut to overthrow the injustices of history¡Ka concerted first step needs to be taken mixed with steely resolve

lve

t

Miriam:

yes am aware of the other issues…(viz. poverty, abuse, incest, rape…the list is endless)…and was (obviously) facetious with that gun bit…do i need to seek forgiveness?

…the perpetuating injustices faced by the disenfranchised (and here read women and all other minorities) throughout history has to be rectified…and this is broadening the argument…though we are discussing this here with specific references to the fozias but this applies to all the disenfranchised globally…there is no disagreement on this amongst any decent and fair thinking person here…

…imho in this journey of that proverbial thousand miles the first step that needs to be taken is education…that is all i was suggesting…in its wake will follow understanding, economic empowerment leading the disenfranchised to stand up powerfully for their rights…if anyone has another first step to suggest am willing to listen

lve

t

Re: # 143

Naqshbandi:

Glad to hear that you are growing older and wiser(ahem..ahem..ahem). I am sorry I am under the weather. What the hell is happening in this picture that you have posted? The ulema`ae karaam are discussing what ? Do you think it is fair to have the ulema wear so many yards of clothing when there are homeless people dying of hunger and poverty in their respective countries. How sad and ironic!