Dina Wadia Claims Jinnah House

Wadia Indian...house indian.i.e. house belongs to wadia.
.period end of story...

There is absolutely no chance of the maharastra government handing over jinnah`s house to Pakistan...

the paki government can have farzana`s house instead...it`s in the same ``upscale`` locality..i`m sure she`ll be happy to give it up...

I have to disagree with the author ..by Pakistani law regardless of whether a child has been disowned or not the claim to inheritance stands irrespective...as such regardless of whether I think the Wadias deserve the house (which the Wadia family does not) ..ideally tho the house should be sold and the money split evenly between the Pak government and the Wadia family..

Wolpert, too, repeats the same, in his ``Jinnah of Pakistan`` :

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Jinnah`s daughter Dina never joined her father in Pakistan while he lived; she came to Karachi only for his funeral. When Dina married Neville Wadia, a Parsi-born Christian, Jinnah tried his best to dissuade her, going almost as far as Sir Dinshaw Petit had with his daughter. As Justice Chagla recalled: ``Jinnah, in his usual imperious manner, told her that there were millions of Muslim boys in India, and she could have anyone she chose. Then the young lady, who was more than a match for her father, replied: `Father, there were millions of Muslim girls in India. Why did you not marry one of them?``` [41]

Jinnah never spoke to his daughter after she married. And though they did correspond, he always addressed her formally as ``Mrs. Wadia`` and never talked of her to his friends, insisting, indeed, that he had ``no daughter`` [42]

[41] Chagla, Roses in December, p. 120.
[42] Lady Rama Rao`s recollection in an interview with the author in Los Angeles, 1979.

Dina and Neville Wadia kept house in Bombay and had two children, soon after which they separated. Neville, who presided over the Wadia commercial and textile empire there, passed control of his business on to his son Nusli, who chairs the board of Wadia Industries, Ltd., and has two sons, Jinnah`s only great grandchildren, who live in Bombay, as citizens of India. Dina and Neville had a daughter as well, who apparently lives in Manhattan as something of a ``recluse`` but was ``too young to remember [Jinnah] and saw little of him``, according to her father. Neville Wadia left India after divorcing Dina, choosing to reside in Switzerland. Dina moved to New York City and lived alone in a splendid apartment on Madison Avenue until at least 1982. Thus, none of Jinnah`s direct descendants ever opted for Pakistan.

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Another piece of provocative drivel for pulic to rant, rave and vent is coming to ignominious close..........hopefully.......

Myth or reality?

http://www.mjakbar.com/booksdetail.asp?bookid=5

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Only his sister Fatima accompanied Jinnah to Pakistan. (Years later she would be the candidate of the combined opposition in the elections held by Ayub Khan) Jinnah`s only child, his daughter Dina, refused to go to Pakistan. The Jinnah who had married Ruttie had changed: he was now the commander of the forces of Istam Din wanted to marry a Parsi, and Jinnah became furious when he heard this, there were millions of Muslim boys, he told his daughter, from whom she could choose. Dina replied that there had been millions of Muslim, girls available, and yet Jinnah had chosen to marry a Parsi. The only answer Jinnah had was to disown his daughter: he never called her Dina again, referring to her whenever formally necessary as `Mrs Wadia`. She was more loyal to her father. On 14 and 15 August 1947 she put out both the Pakistani and Indian flags on her balcony.
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Ana : ``Suhail qazi (who if you didn`t know is also gujjubania and a load of other nicks) first came on and tried to rattle yasser`s cage vis-a-vis jinnah. and then when yasser responded, without referring to ``suhail`s`` family members, then suhail came back and made all sorts of insinuations about aisha``

And there you are wrong...`Suhail Qazi` aka `gujju/avenger etc.` only reacted and reacted in a typically aggressive manner when your boy manto said certain uncomplimentary things about `SuhailQazi`s mom.......ref #25.

So obviously Suhail Qazi retorted that such potty mouthed talk was nothing unexpected coming from a cuckolded fool who in all likelihood was busy wanking himself with the qaed`s photograph while his wife was getting impregnated by half of Lahore and all the tourists from India.

Cheerio !

#71, ferozk

Greetings! I`m not sure why I`m back except that sometimes I enjoy shooting fish in a barrel.

Nehru met Jinnah in Bombay on the evening of August 15, 1946 (the day before Direct Action Day), and as one can infer from ``Speeches, Statements & Messages of the Quaid-e-Azam``, Volume IV, 1946-1948 (Editor Khurshid Ahmad Khan Yusufi), it took place at Jinnah`s residence. Jinnah`s comment to the Associated Press of India about that meeting was a terse ``Nothing has happened beyond the fact that we had a general talk. I have nothing more to say``.

You Sir are a hypocrite of first degree.

It is ok for a Parsi Woman(Ruttee) to marry semi-Muslim Jinnah.
It is not ok for semi-Muslim Dina to marry a Parsi.

Dina was going against her father by marrying a non Muslim and that is why is a bad person in your eyes. You still live in 18th century mindset. You have been fed a very distorted version of history and it is sad that people think like you do.

Who the hell are you to judge a family affair of Jinnah and Dina?

Go back to UAE where you can practice what you preach.

Re: ana # 72

Thanks for the info...

Ana, in any case, I am trully sorry to hear that and I would agree with you that such comments never contribute anything positive to the discussion. My own personal opinion is, and I am sure people might disagree with it, that personal character assassination on Chowk is a self-inflicted wound. Such a behavior only demeans the person engaging in the attacks and not the target of the attack.

There is a poster, in my classroom, which says: speech is shallow but silence is eternal.

The words are indeed apt.

Ciao

okay addendum to #72,

i know i will be misinterpreted, but what i meant was that gujju`s insults were imbecilic and immature and not of major import to the discussion at hand, i did not in any way mean to imply that it was not important as to how it affected both yasser and aisha.

feroz,

suhail qazi (who if you didn`t know is also gujjubania and a load of other nicks) first came on and tried to rattle yasser`s cage vis-a-vis jinnah. and then when yasser responded, without referring to ``suhail`s`` family members, then suhail came back and made all sorts of insinuations about aisha, and who fathered their child and rubbish like that. it was nothing of grand importance, and nothing that truly contributed to the discussion here.

gossip session ab khat`m hota hai.

ana

I had wished to comment on this article, when it first appeared on what I took to be a historically wrong statement. The author mentions that the Jinnah House, in Bombay, hosted the famous Jinnah-Nehru talks. I might be mistaken, but I know of the Jinnah-Gandhi talks in 1944, but I had never heard of Jinnah-Nehru talks taking place at the residence of Jinnah in Bombay.

Could the author please clarify that statement?

Secondly; can anyone inform me, as I seem to have missed the interacts, just what did SuhailQazi say, which seems to have infuriated the people on Chowk. I had assumed that Chowk had become too jaded with abusive language, as it has been the norm, but SuhailQazi`s interacts seems to have really irked people into registering a reaction. Any feed back would be appreciated. :)

Ciao

Re: # 69 ana

That was a slip of pen [ or keyboard, as the case may be ]. I just noticed that and was going to post a correction - but you intervened with an unnecessay jab on my ribs - ``one claims to have so much information and knowledge of jinnah``....... But thanks for the correction.

Did I ever claim to have ``so much information and knowledge of jinnah``? .... I don`t think so. Actually - there are only two people in the world who make that claim - YLH and Wolpart. One is a nut-case, the other is known as a ``historian``.

{jinnah`s children. . .}

if one claims to have so much information and knowledge of jinnah, then one should also be aware that dina was the only child. . .the daughter of rattanbai or ruttie jinnah, who died long before jinnah did.

jinnah had no other biological children.

#67 by mohar11 on June 23, 2005 6:17am PT

Thing have been turned around...Now Indians are demanding the two state solution be maintained...one state for the jihadis and people who overwhelmingly think Osama bin laden is a hero,and India..

Re: # 63
//... that pakistan was never meant to be. if jinnah had been alive today he would felt the same...//

Don`t say that in here - pakis will kill you :)

But I think you are wrong. Pakistan was meant to be - whether Jinnah`s children lived there or not. Like this has been pointed out a million times already - TNT became real for a vast number of pre-partition muslims [and it still holds good for them]. And there was no need to hold those people back - it would have been utterly counter-productive.... Jinna`s children didn`t believe in their father`s ideology of TNT, so they stayed put - so also a vast number of muslims who didn`t accept TNT and stayed put.

If jinnha were alive today - there is no telling what he would have felt. The man was utterly inconsistent in his beliefs and politics - a crass opportunist by character. so who knows? Mullhas would have hounded him - he would have probably moved back to India and stay in his house on Bombay. That was a possibility.