Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?

Kaalchakra....`caste` used to be problem. It isn`t anymore. Infact these days its advantageous to be a low caste hindu in India. The lower the caste , the better , as far as job prospects are concerned. 50% reservation in jobs and college seats for lower caste hindus in India. So to reinforce and justify this reservation policy , it becomes necessary to maintain the facade of being persecuted against.

#57 by Ajeya
“He`s obviously not from a good background.”

Dalit…hehehehe…untouchable….no good background…. hehehehe

Heheheh …and good background writes……heheheheh

“Maybe from an extremely poor and uneducated muslim family that used to be an uneducated dalit family that was converted by force. It seems rape and violence might have been involved.”

269 by Ajeya on being Imrana board…
Hehehehe…good background writes.

“And he REALLY got MANY idiot converts who were thrilled to know that after they die they`ll be rewarded with 72 whores who would become virgins again and again - i.e. their hymens would repair themselves repeatedly.

What a deep philosophical worldview!

No wonder your father converted!”

Goodbackground removed….heheheh….good background…heheheheh

#289 by Ajeya on July 20, 2005 9:53pm PT
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Hehehehe

Another good background writes….heheheheh

#59 by Kane

“personal opinion that he is the biological father of his wife`s children...”

Good background…heheheh…very good background…heheheheh…

Typical hindu background….heheheheh

kane, Ajeya

I agree fully with everything both of you wrote, but reach somewhat different conclusions. That isn`t an undesirable situation. It shows that the problem is important enough to merit a variety of solutions.

But dalitji`s game is not to discuss one real problem (of caste), but to derail the discussion of another (of terrorism). So we can learn from one another at some other time.

Kaalchakra...enough of this crap about our (hindu) `short comings`. Our greatest short-coming is our propensity for self-loathing and self-flagellation.

#58 by kaalchakra


[Ultimately, dalitji - whatever his religion is - would not exist but for our own shortcomings. Realizing that, one can deal with him as a human being, not as a caricature that he makes of himself.

We know we have a long way to go. Any incentive dalitji can provide us to keep moving should be welcome.]



Actually, much is said about ``our`` shortcomings.

Everyone is extremely concerned about the shortcomings of the Hindu. Take any lefty/pseudo-secularist newspaper in India, take the BBC, take most newspapers around the world, Hindus are roundly condemned of everything under the sun.

While the truth is that, of all the world communities, we have been the MOST decent folks. We have been living in India, and it is everybody else under the sun that has attacked us, enslaved us, forced this or that onto us, when they should have just LEFT US ALONE.

As far as religious philosophy goes, I don`t think we are talking about that here.

As far as social dogmas, injustices etc. goes, EVERY society under the sun has its share of them. Very frequently, the ``dalit`` who converts to Christianity to join a egalitarian society suddenly finds that he is not that welcome in many white churches. The low-caste hindu who converts to Islam finds that he is treated very differently by Muslims who are fairer-skinned.

So it would be more mature not to stick Hinduism with these self-improvement targets, but humanity in general.

And that includes the ``lower castes`` and the ``dalits`` who exhibit the same kinds of biases, preferences and prejudices within their own community, any time they are given the chance. Have you ever noticed how the Basketball players in the USA always gravitate towards more ``white``-looking wives?



So it`s best not to bring religion into this.

Anti-muslim sentiment rising in Britain

Dalit..you ignorant shithead....dont you know what happened in 1971 ? Indian Army defeated Pakistani forces badly and broke Pakistan into 2 equal parts. Pakistan Army surrendered to the Indians. 100,000 Pakistanis were taken as prisoners of war. East Pakistan broke away and Bangladesh was born. Heehehehe....

Tahmed : ``Coming from an Indian (where minorities are routinely killed, where known thugs like Modi are national leaders - who was denied a visa to the US a few months ago on account of being a hindu terrorist), this bs rings hollow. You of course dont know that - and that doesnt matter. The rest of the world knows that.``

Obviously you are an idiot. `Rest of the world` , atleast the civilised world is talking about Islamic terrorism , muslim suicide bombers , terrorist threat from Pakistan.

`Rest of the world` is yet to talk of Modi , hindu fundamentlists in the same breath.Somehow Modi and hindus do not merit the same attention from the `rest of the world` as the adherents of the `religion of peace` (RoP). Wonder why ...

Also , in interest of accuracy , Modi was never called or considered a `hindu terrosist` by the US administration. And to say `minorities are routinely killed in India` is just Tahmed32`s personal opinion.It is also Tahmed32`s personal opinion that he is the biological father of his wife`s children...

ajeya

Ultimately, dalitji - whatever his religion is - would not exist but for our own shortcomings. Realizing that, one can deal with him as a human being, not as a caricature that he makes of himself.

We know we have a long way to go. Any incentive dalitji can provide us to keep moving should be welcome.

Re: #53 by Kaalchakra

Well Dalit or not, due to some reason this guy has an extreme inferiority complex. He`s obviously not from a good background. Maybe from an extremely poor and uneducated muslim family that used to be an uneducated dalit family that was converted by force. It seems rape and violence might have been involved.

Actually it is fairly certain that his family was converted against their will. Because it seems that he needs Hindu attention. Kind of like a lost soul crying in the wilderness.

Hopefully his children will not have the same ghosts haunting them.

ranjit #37 I read the rest of your post.

you wrote ``Your establishment plays a double game of paying lip service and ``show-sha`` against terrorism, while at the same time sending in killers who take innocent life simply because they belong to another faith. ``

Coming from an Indian (where minorities are routinely killed, where known thugs like Modi are national leaders - who was denied a visa to the US a few months ago on account of being a hindu terrorist), this bs rings hollow. You of course dont know that - and that doesnt matter. The rest of the world knows that.

Re: # 43 cad
//....the money is spent on ISLAMIC EDUCATION incase u didn`t get it and JIHAD is not the main subject in it...//

Oh yes - the ``Islamic Education`` ...... Actually I do get it - now that you have explained..... I mean - A billion dollar a year on islamic education and the result shows for itself, doesn`t it? Islamic Education has sure produced the desired results. After all, the most prolific export from pakistan is Islamic Terrorism.

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//....U might not want ppl to read and learn Bhagwat Geeta...//

Well - I did read a couple pages from that book. It`s boring and doesn`t say anything that I don`t know already..... Anycase - I am sure as hell not going support spending a bn $ on that - particularly if that`s going to produce a million ``swamis`` running around naked with thrishul up their a$$es and breaking derelict ancient structures.

I mean - just look at what a billions dollar of ``islamic education`` has done to you pakis? A million jihadis running amok. ... So no maam, no reading and learning Bhagwat Geeta for us.

ranjit #37 I already responded to you - I said you were a nut.

Ajeya

I don`t think any religion will like to claim our friend. He is just our dear Dalitji.

Talveen Singh went to Deobund….heheheheh…all mullah put hands under their long shirts....hehehehe.... way down….hehehehe…Talveen Singh ran….hehehehehe…..

Re: #49 by Kaalchakra

Thanks for telling me that.

So is he a Muslim?