Sushil Bhatnagar July 22, 2005
#33 Posted by KaalChakra on July 23, 2005 10:31:41 am
ranjit, it`s wrong to blame just the Muslims for terrorism.
A terrorist ideology is at war with the world. This terrorist ideology seems completely `reasonable,` once you make the mistake of agreeing with its basic, extremely slippery, premises.
Surely, many Muslims have blindly swallowed this terrorist ideology. But so have many misinformed, misguided, intellectually lazy, and cowardly non Muslims.
A terrorist ideology is at war with the world. This terrorist ideology seems completely `reasonable,` once you make the mistake of agreeing with its basic, extremely slippery, premises.
Surely, many Muslims have blindly swallowed this terrorist ideology. But so have many misinformed, misguided, intellectually lazy, and cowardly non Muslims.
#34 Posted by Ranjit on July 23, 2005 10:36:34 am
Re:southasian #32
``Re: # 27 Yes, LoC as an international border is a good idea. This border should be porous and should not need visa.``
Absolutely not!! The LOC must be an international border. But the entire international border with Pakistan must be like a firewall, an iron curtain that no one can cross. I would prefer cuting off all kinds of visas between the two countries and have minimal diplomatic links.
We Indians must not have any links with Pakistan. Also, we must shield our muslims in India from the toxic effects of Pakistan. All these terrorists in Britain and Europe got their training in Pakistan. We must not let that happen with Indian muslims otherwise India will get ruined.
``Re: # 27 Yes, LoC as an international border is a good idea. This border should be porous and should not need visa.``
Absolutely not!! The LOC must be an international border. But the entire international border with Pakistan must be like a firewall, an iron curtain that no one can cross. I would prefer cuting off all kinds of visas between the two countries and have minimal diplomatic links.
We Indians must not have any links with Pakistan. Also, we must shield our muslims in India from the toxic effects of Pakistan. All these terrorists in Britain and Europe got their training in Pakistan. We must not let that happen with Indian muslims otherwise India will get ruined.
#35 Posted by Ranjit on July 23, 2005 10:52:29 am
Re:kaalchakra#33
``ranjit, it`s wrong to blame just the Muslims for terrorism.``
With all due respects, how long are we going to delude ourselves? Just look at the events in the past four weeks -
1. Suicide attack on Ayodhya
2. Suicide attack #1 in London
3. Suicide attack in Kashmir near school
4. Suicide attack of a daily basis in Iraq where dozens of kids were killed
5. Suicide attack in Turkey`s tourist area
6. Suicide attack #2 in London
7. Suicide attack in Egypt killing 85 people
I am sure I am missing some events here. In all these incidinents there is one underlying theme - Islam against Kaffirs. Yes it is couched in euphemisims, freedom struggles, other BS. But that is the bottom line. It is a religious war between Islam and Rest of the world. The sooner we realize it and identify the enemy, the better it is.
If Europe and US deports all muslims out of their countries, in one fell swoop, the entire problem will be solved. We Indians must immediately take an extreme hardline stance in Kashmir which is well overdue - Warn Pakistan to immediately stop all infiltration and give up all claims in Kashmir, or we destory the Indus water treaty, cut off all water supply to Pakistan and throw nuclear toxins into their existing water flow. It is simple. Point a gun at Pakistan`s head and tell them to come to their senses or get destroyed. If they go for the nuclear option, we retaliate and obliterate them.
``ranjit, it`s wrong to blame just the Muslims for terrorism.``
With all due respects, how long are we going to delude ourselves? Just look at the events in the past four weeks -
1. Suicide attack on Ayodhya
2. Suicide attack #1 in London
3. Suicide attack in Kashmir near school
4. Suicide attack of a daily basis in Iraq where dozens of kids were killed
5. Suicide attack in Turkey`s tourist area
6. Suicide attack #2 in London
7. Suicide attack in Egypt killing 85 people
I am sure I am missing some events here. In all these incidinents there is one underlying theme - Islam against Kaffirs. Yes it is couched in euphemisims, freedom struggles, other BS. But that is the bottom line. It is a religious war between Islam and Rest of the world. The sooner we realize it and identify the enemy, the better it is.
If Europe and US deports all muslims out of their countries, in one fell swoop, the entire problem will be solved. We Indians must immediately take an extreme hardline stance in Kashmir which is well overdue - Warn Pakistan to immediately stop all infiltration and give up all claims in Kashmir, or we destory the Indus water treaty, cut off all water supply to Pakistan and throw nuclear toxins into their existing water flow. It is simple. Point a gun at Pakistan`s head and tell them to come to their senses or get destroyed. If they go for the nuclear option, we retaliate and obliterate them.
#36 Posted by tahmed32 on July 23, 2005 11:06:49 am
urstruly:
any response to anti-muslim rants by ranjit?? or, are you just another fake who talks big about your war with the west only because you know you are protected by western laws of free speech. Do you have the guts to even challenge open hate-mail directed to muslims on chowk by those who REALLY hate muslims (like ranjit)??
any response to anti-muslim rants by ranjit?? or, are you just another fake who talks big about your war with the west only because you know you are protected by western laws of free speech. Do you have the guts to even challenge open hate-mail directed to muslims on chowk by those who REALLY hate muslims (like ranjit)??
#37 Posted by Ranjit on July 23, 2005 11:26:30 am
Re:tahmed32#36
Why are you asking someone else to respond to me? If you want to respond, do so. Lets get rid of all this political correctness and talk straight.
Your country, Pakistan has become the epicenter of international terror. That terror is directed primarily against my country India, my people and my places of worhip. It is not words or rhetoric but actual physical attacks that happen every day in Kashmir or elsewhere. People from your territory get ideologically brainwashed, receive training, come over illegally to my country and create havoc. Your establishment plays a double game of paying lip service and ``show-sha`` against terrorism, while at the same time sending in killers who take innocent life simply because they belong to another faith. Your terror infrastructure has been linked directly with the 9/11 attacks as well as 7/7 and pretty much every other incident.
It is time for India and other non-muslims countries to tell Pakistan to fix it once and for all, or face real retribution. We have had it with your ambivalent attitude and foreign policy adventures. You want religious war, you will get it. If you do not want it, then clean up your house. That means immediate dismantling of all terror infrastructure, immediate abandonment of Kashmir or any other ``issue``. After that, you can do whatever you want in your country, no one gives a damn.
Why are you asking someone else to respond to me? If you want to respond, do so. Lets get rid of all this political correctness and talk straight.
Your country, Pakistan has become the epicenter of international terror. That terror is directed primarily against my country India, my people and my places of worhip. It is not words or rhetoric but actual physical attacks that happen every day in Kashmir or elsewhere. People from your territory get ideologically brainwashed, receive training, come over illegally to my country and create havoc. Your establishment plays a double game of paying lip service and ``show-sha`` against terrorism, while at the same time sending in killers who take innocent life simply because they belong to another faith. Your terror infrastructure has been linked directly with the 9/11 attacks as well as 7/7 and pretty much every other incident.
It is time for India and other non-muslims countries to tell Pakistan to fix it once and for all, or face real retribution. We have had it with your ambivalent attitude and foreign policy adventures. You want religious war, you will get it. If you do not want it, then clean up your house. That means immediate dismantling of all terror infrastructure, immediate abandonment of Kashmir or any other ``issue``. After that, you can do whatever you want in your country, no one gives a damn.
#38 Posted by mohar11 on July 23, 2005 11:37:35 am
Re: # 21
//....Not All Mullas are fanatics and not all madrasas are terrorist camps just like not all swami`s went to bring down the Babri mosque and not all Hindus (unlike u) beleive in ridiculing other religions...//
All swamis may not have physically gone to bring down Babri - but they all supported that act of barbarism - because, these swamis are human parasites and completely useless life-forms on the face of the earth - and are treated as such ........ And most hindus do ``ridicule`` other religions[they call it ``critical analysis``], just like they ridicule their own.....
But that`s not the point. But the real question is - how much percent of $1.1Bn went to good mullah and how much went to the fanatic mullah? How much was spent for jihad in Kashmir and afganistan and how much was spent on actual education [rot-learning quoran is not education - that`s actually anti-education, for lack of a better term]? ......
We can blame hindus for their ``lack of respect`` for other religions [we blame hindus and jews for most other things under the sun anyway] - but that still doesn`t change the fact that $1.1 Bn per year is spent on jihad., does it?
//....Not All Mullas are fanatics and not all madrasas are terrorist camps just like not all swami`s went to bring down the Babri mosque and not all Hindus (unlike u) beleive in ridiculing other religions...//
All swamis may not have physically gone to bring down Babri - but they all supported that act of barbarism - because, these swamis are human parasites and completely useless life-forms on the face of the earth - and are treated as such ........ And most hindus do ``ridicule`` other religions[they call it ``critical analysis``], just like they ridicule their own.....
But that`s not the point. But the real question is - how much percent of $1.1Bn went to good mullah and how much went to the fanatic mullah? How much was spent for jihad in Kashmir and afganistan and how much was spent on actual education [rot-learning quoran is not education - that`s actually anti-education, for lack of a better term]? ......
We can blame hindus for their ``lack of respect`` for other religions [we blame hindus and jews for most other things under the sun anyway] - but that still doesn`t change the fact that $1.1 Bn per year is spent on jihad., does it?
#39 Posted by Dalit on July 23, 2005 11:46:13 am
#29 by ranjit
“There is only one way to destroy Islamic terrorism - hit and destroy what muslims value most i.e Islam. The west should organize simultaneous nuclear attacks on Mecca and Medina along with conventional bombing of the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. Just finish off these 3 leading sites of Islam. The muslims will realize how impotent their religion is. If they try to retaliate, carry out repeated nuclear attacks against Mecca and Medina. That is the only way to kill this madness in this world called Islam.”
Ranjit a typical hindu…hehehehe wants muslims dead …good, good, good…he hates Muslims like all hindus… hehehehe..
Wants goras to nuke Muslims lands….wants gora kids to die for his hatred and fight….hindu coward… hehehehe… hindu never won a war in thousands of years of Indian history… he wants gora boys to go and win the war for hindus hatred…..hehehehehe
Hindu have nukes…hehehehe…why not hindu go after the Muslim lands….drop Indian bombs on Pakistan….heheheheh…. Pakistan has bombs too ….hehehehe… scares the sh1t out of hindu…heheheh…
Pakis have nukes…..hehehehe if not, hindus would have dropped the bomb on Pak already…..hehehehe… big talk, sh1t in pants….hehehehe….that is hindu for you ….heheheheh…..
#40 Posted by mohar11 on July 23, 2005 11:46:21 am
Re: # 36 tahmed
//...urstruly: any response to anti-muslim rants by ranjit?? ...///
So now the resident Closet-Mullah is teaming up with the resident Real Mullah to fight the kufr hinuds...... Mullahs of all stripes are now joining their forces together.
Yep - it`s time. Idolator hinuds have to defeated - quoran says so.
//...urstruly: any response to anti-muslim rants by ranjit?? ...///
So now the resident Closet-Mullah is teaming up with the resident Real Mullah to fight the kufr hinuds...... Mullahs of all stripes are now joining their forces together.
Yep - it`s time. Idolator hinuds have to defeated - quoran says so.
#41 Posted by pmishra2 on July 23, 2005 11:52:14 am
Sushilji,
It is nice of you to write such an appropriate and timely article.
But I have bad news for you ! - you are low-life idol worshipper belonging to a brutal, disgusting and violent civilization which due to inadvertent error was not systematically cleansed from the earth. You have no right or standing to comment on higher forms of civilization and religion such as islam.
Islamic civilization is special and different. It invented democracy in 600AD (Shri Tahmed32 will give you all the details) and also completely liberated women by placing them in large black sacks. Also, no terrorist is a muslim because islam means peace.
How does it matter if many mosques teaches hatred towards ``others`` (christians/jews/hindus)? It is the democratic right of everyone, to hate others. Also, muslim suffering is more important than anyone elses suffering, especially hindus and other low-life of that type.
PLease understand these new realities. Once you have absorbed them you will stop writing these naive articles and instead spend your energies on preparing yourself for the long battles ahead.
It is nice of you to write such an appropriate and timely article.
But I have bad news for you ! - you are low-life idol worshipper belonging to a brutal, disgusting and violent civilization which due to inadvertent error was not systematically cleansed from the earth. You have no right or standing to comment on higher forms of civilization and religion such as islam.
Islamic civilization is special and different. It invented democracy in 600AD (Shri Tahmed32 will give you all the details) and also completely liberated women by placing them in large black sacks. Also, no terrorist is a muslim because islam means peace.
How does it matter if many mosques teaches hatred towards ``others`` (christians/jews/hindus)? It is the democratic right of everyone, to hate others. Also, muslim suffering is more important than anyone elses suffering, especially hindus and other low-life of that type.
PLease understand these new realities. Once you have absorbed them you will stop writing these naive articles and instead spend your energies on preparing yourself for the long battles ahead.
#42 Posted by Kane on July 23, 2005 11:55:25 am
dalit hehehe remember 1971 hehehe pakistan broken into two eqaul parts by Indian Army hehehe hindus just big talk hehehe...
#43 Posted by Cadbury on July 23, 2005 11:59:04 am
Re: # 38
the money is spent on ISLAMIC EDUCATION incase u didn`t get it and JIHAD is not the main subject in it. U might not want ppl to read and learn Bhagwat Geeta but we like our people to learn and read it as much as they can for reasons your faith also appreciates
the money is spent on ISLAMIC EDUCATION incase u didn`t get it and JIHAD is not the main subject in it. U might not want ppl to read and learn Bhagwat Geeta but we like our people to learn and read it as much as they can for reasons your faith also appreciates
#44 Posted by KaalChakra on July 23, 2005 12:00:01 pm
ranjit
Terrorism has the reach it does today because dumb and gutless non Muslims have fed it, and continues to offer to it, both moral support and social respectability. Clearly, the terrorist ideology does not mentally incapacitate just many Muslims.
The problem of terrorism is essentially the problem of a specific mindset, a mindset that is demonstrably shared by anybody who sympathetically understands terrorism and identifies with terrorists.
As to Islam, ultimately the Muslim world will decide by its actions what to make of it.
Terrorism has the reach it does today because dumb and gutless non Muslims have fed it, and continues to offer to it, both moral support and social respectability. Clearly, the terrorist ideology does not mentally incapacitate just many Muslims.
The problem of terrorism is essentially the problem of a specific mindset, a mindset that is demonstrably shared by anybody who sympathetically understands terrorism and identifies with terrorists.
As to Islam, ultimately the Muslim world will decide by its actions what to make of it.
#45 Posted by mohar11 on July 23, 2005 12:00:34 pm
And look at these dim-wit Brits - they f***ing shot the wrong man, in full public view .... I mean, Jeez - how stupid can you get? First you allow islamic vermin to infest your country and then you just shoot wrong people!!!
And we all know what`s goint to happen now. More ``justification`` for jihad - not that there isn`t enough already. Brits are doomed.
And we all know what`s goint to happen now. More ``justification`` for jihad - not that there isn`t enough already. Brits are doomed.
#46 Posted by Dalit on July 23, 2005 12:03:02 pm
#42 by Kane
Heheheh no war in 71…talk about Alex boy…hehehe...talk about the Ghauri boy…. And other boys….talk about the Chinese boys….heheheh...all invaders beat the sh1t out of hindu….hehehehe.
Muslim holy place right next to Delhi….Deoband…hehehehe nuke that first…that is the Kaaba of all terrorist…hehehe…can’t even go near there…hehehehe
Nuke Old delhi first….more muslims there….hehehehe hindu cowards….want gora to fight for them heheheheh…..
#47 Posted by ajeya on July 23, 2005 12:09:44 pm
Re: #46 by ChristianDalit
According to the National Geographic channel, ``Virgin`` Mary had an extramarital affair with a young Roman soldier when her MUCH older husband was away.
Hehehehehe
``Immaculate birth`` my a$$.
Hehehehehe
:-)
According to the National Geographic channel, ``Virgin`` Mary had an extramarital affair with a young Roman soldier when her MUCH older husband was away.
Hehehehehe
``Immaculate birth`` my a$$.
Hehehehehe
:-)
#48 Posted by Dalit on July 23, 2005 12:14:12 pm
#47
hehehehehe
Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter, Saraswati.
heheheheh
The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well-known for its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his maternal uncle. hehehehe
Incest, pedophile, child molesters all there. Heheheheh Hindu liar….heheheh
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